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Post by lugnutz on Aug 7, 2010 10:04:27 GMT -5
For all youths that hunt from a stand to use a fall harness of some sort.
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Post by thecommissioner on Aug 7, 2010 10:09:03 GMT -5
How about a law that requires a youth to wear a fall harness while on any kind of elevated platform including those found at the top of playground slides? Face it, many more youth will find themselves on playgrounds than in the woods hunting.
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Post by Decatur on Aug 7, 2010 11:15:30 GMT -5
More laws leads to more confusion leads to lower recruitment due to too many confusing laws!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2010 11:37:38 GMT -5
The stakeholder's proposal addressed ground blinds without any data showing a need, but there is tons of data showing a need for FRD and this was ignored........got to wonder why?
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Post by thecommissioner on Aug 7, 2010 11:48:34 GMT -5
The stakeholder's proposal addressed ground blinds without any data showing a need, but there is tons of data showing a need for FRD and this was ignored........got to wonder why? Is a FRD more likely to get in the way of shooting an arrow and causing the archer to miss a big azz buck?
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Post by firstwd on Aug 7, 2010 20:06:42 GMT -5
FRD's are a common sense issue. No law can fix stupid. This should be treated the same as I feel seatbelts and motorcycle helmets should be. Let insurance companies deny coverage if an incident occurs and they were not in use.
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Post by duff on Aug 8, 2010 12:34:08 GMT -5
I don't agree that a law needs to be passed, but I do agree that if a kid under 16 falls out of a tree the adult supervising the kid should be in some type of trouble.
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Post by batchief909 on Aug 8, 2010 15:37:28 GMT -5
I disagree. Big Govt. already dictates too much of what what we should or shouldn't do. I see no need for anyone mandating "common sense" laws. You can only "fix stupid" so far.....
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Post by jgrimm on Aug 9, 2010 7:47:11 GMT -5
We need a new law, not to make anymore laws!!!
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Post by thecommissioner on Aug 9, 2010 8:45:57 GMT -5
We need a new law, not to make anymore laws!!! But that means the lawmakers we elect would sit around doing nothing all day.
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Post by Decatur on Aug 9, 2010 8:48:00 GMT -5
I think we are safer if they do nothing!
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Post by maddog on Aug 9, 2010 8:49:20 GMT -5
We need a new law, not to make anymore laws!!! But that means the lawmakers we elect would sit around doing nothing all day. And your point is....? ;D maddog
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Post by robwalker on Aug 9, 2010 9:12:18 GMT -5
it is the adults responsibility to make the child learn to use the harness and to punish them if they dont. my son was wearing one before he could even hunt. we dont need anymore laws, broken laws = more fine money for the lawmakers to push for more bs
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Post by 36fan on Aug 9, 2010 12:14:19 GMT -5
For all youths that hunt from a stand to use a fall harness of some sort. It's not a scientific law , but pretty much accepted as one in the scientific community - it's called "The Theory of Evolution" or sometimes simply referred to as "Survival of the Fittest" or "Darwinism" It basically states individuals with traits better suited to the environment pass on these traits, and the lesser desirable traits are weeded out. In this case it would refer to brains as the way to circumvent the Law of Gravity. Those without this preferred trait have the potential to end up as candidate for the "Darwin Awards". ;D
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Post by lugnutz on Aug 9, 2010 20:35:35 GMT -5
How about a law that requires a youth to wear a fall harness while on any kind of elevated platform including those found at the top of playground slides? Face it, many more youth will find themselves on playgrounds than in the woods hunting. If you honestly think that playground equipment is just as safe as being in a stand....This law would be for your kids safety, due to the parents ignorance.
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Post by lugnutz on Aug 9, 2010 20:38:30 GMT -5
More laws leads to more confusion leads to lower recruitment due to too many confusing laws! Your probably right Decatur, Youth Hunters have to use a FR system (seems awfully confusing doesn't it).....But yet to get your PCR's passed, their is soo much confusion on what your allowed to use and what your not use,,,it not even worth the hassle. But yet nobody seemed to worried about all the new laws associated with it. If this state is really wanting to get youths more involved into hunting they need to make more laws concerning their safety. Not all mentors are concerned with their safety. Just remember all the igornant azz hunters you see while your out in the field, does it ever make you wonder if they are teaching youths the proper way to hunt? Just to take it a step further in my own experience, i don't use a FR system, didn't have them years ago, and never really even wanted to use one for various excuses....My son had to wear one last year on our HI Youth Hunt, i never made him wear one up to that point, but he won't hunt in any elevated stand without one again. I hope he teaches his kids to use them for their safety.
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Post by Decatur on Aug 9, 2010 22:48:25 GMT -5
My PCRs? I hunt with a muzzy! I'll stand by my post. We do NOT need any more laws. Maybe we need a law requiring broadhead protectors, or a license to carry a gutting knife or better yet, sunglasses to protect your eyes in case you look directly into a beautiful sunrise from your treestand? Ya...that's the ticket!
I think you took the right approach with your son. YOU made him wear one. Not some law that would be near impossible to enforce and would just add to our confusing game laws. The PCRs you mentioned are an option. If you don't understand them, don't hunt with them until you do. Your law would not be an option. How would you write it? What about enclosed elevated blinds? Do you have to wear a harness in them too?
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Post by thecommissioner on Aug 10, 2010 4:15:15 GMT -5
I don't agree that a law needs to be passed, but I do agree that if a kid under 16 falls out of a tree the adult supervising the kid should be in some type of trouble. Some of the greatest memories of my childhood were of climbing trees with my friends. Those days included riding bicycles and skateboards without helmets. Thankfully, we never heard of parents being prosecuted when we fell out of trees and crashed out bikes. Had our parents been in trouble when we had accidents, then our parents probably would have made us stay indoors and play innocuous board games under their watchful eyes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2010 7:27:58 GMT -5
I think we'll require them for the youth hunt again, but it's tuff to ask a youngster to wear something the mentor doesn't when they are in the same tree?
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Post by tickman1961 on Aug 10, 2010 8:06:05 GMT -5
There needs to be more common sense from people and less laws restricting our liberty....
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