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Post by varmint101 on Nov 24, 2008 11:57:52 GMT -5
I put a lethal lung shot on a decent buck last year on opening Sunday. He made it over the fence we were by and made it to the top of a small hill where he was promptly neck shot and dropped on the spot.
The buck would have died from my shot easily, but I didn't care to squabble. It's not worth it to me. It also helped that the kid had just gotten back from Iraq from a tour. He couldn't even stand to see the deer get gutted. Had to have his uncle do it. It was also the kid's first buck. I just shook his hand and congratulated him on a nice buck and went on my way.
It was a nice buck, but still not worth it to me. It's just a deer and it made that guy really happy! I could easily have made a scene, but why? Just not worth it.
That's the only ''situation'' I've had like that.
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Post by kevin1 on Nov 24, 2008 12:25:36 GMT -5
Possession is 9/10th of the law once the CO shows up.
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Post by mbogo on Nov 26, 2008 11:39:08 GMT -5
I agree with the general consensus on first fatal shot and I don't really having anything to add, but I do want to comment on the stories of deer being stolen after being tagged. Thankfully, I have never had that happen yet although it is probably only a matter of time. Knowing what I know about some of the people who hunt the HNF near me, makes me take every precaution I can think of if I have to leave a nice buck in the woods to get help bringing it out.
The first thing I do, if there is even the remotest chance of having to leave a deer , is to carry a short section of cable and a lock so that I can lock the carcass to a tree. If I don't have the lock and cable I would go to a two step backup plan. First I would cut off the tip of the deer's tongue and take it with me, this not only helps to demonstrate first possession but also provides a DNA link to the deer. Secondly, in addition to the plainly visible tag I would hide an additional tag in the nostrils or throat of the carcass. Both of these precautions can help settle a dispute or help you track down the deer if stolen.
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Post by vortex100 on Nov 26, 2008 12:22:13 GMT -5
It depends on the situation for me.
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Post by duff on Nov 26, 2008 13:16:27 GMT -5
First fatal hit get it be it gut/lung/spine. I'd also not get into any disputes over a flippen deer either so if the situation came up where another person really wanted it, most likely they'd leave with a deer.
Man Mbogo you seem a bit paranoid about it, seems you have put a lot of thought into someone stealing your deer.
I have had to leave deer in the woods a time or two on public land before. Always right where I left them.
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Post by drgreyhound on Nov 26, 2008 13:53:28 GMT -5
As we saw from Sleazy's story, it certainly can happen. I wouldn't put anything past people these days, although I would hope people would have the common decency not to steal each other's deer.
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Post by duff on Nov 26, 2008 13:56:27 GMT -5
Most certainly it can, I just find it funny that someone would think about cutting the tip of the tounge off to prove it's his.
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Post by TagTeamHunter on Nov 26, 2008 15:24:50 GMT -5
Mbogo for the tips easy enough to do. Most hunters on are good people; but you never know.
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Post by woodmaster on Nov 26, 2008 17:06:57 GMT -5
Shooter that comes closest to putting a bullet through the heart has rights to it every time. You are closest to the heart, it's your deer. That's among gentlemen hunters. I can't agree with this. No gentleman would take a deer if not fataly shot. As you can see in the drawing the red "X" is closest to the heart. Clearly the black "X" is further from the heart but is the only shot between the 2 that will kill the deer. We all know what a lethal shot is. After Dad got screwed out of a nice fallow deer at LBL several years ago I vowed never to let that happen again. It's not that a want a deer that bad, I'm just not going to let a scumbag get a deer he didn't kill.
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Post by hoosieroutdoorsman on Nov 26, 2008 18:36:42 GMT -5
He who KILLS it GRILLS IT ! !
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Post by wilderness on Nov 26, 2008 19:24:47 GMT -5
I PARTIALLY agree to the first lethal blood takes the deer. I would only take the deer if the person put a bad shot on the deer because the deer may not die from a bad shot. If the person put a good shot on the deer and I put it down, that doesn't mean I killed the deer and its mine. If its a good shot, then thats technically first fatal blood. If you put it down, that's because a deer can only take so much.
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Post by mbogo on Nov 27, 2008 15:40:36 GMT -5
I've seen enough of the stunts that some people hunting public land perform just to get a small buck so I'd no more leave a big buck unattended and unsecured than I would my treestand.
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Post by lugnutz on Nov 28, 2008 21:58:27 GMT -5
I assumed it was law, that whomever made the last shot on the animal has to claim the deer. Or else anytime a person see's an injured animal they could shoot it would tagging the animal.
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Post by jackryan on Dec 2, 2008 5:43:26 GMT -5
Shooter that comes closest to putting a bullet through the heart has rights to it every time. You are closest to the heart, it's your deer. That's among gentlemen hunters. I can't agree with this. No gentleman would take a deer if not fataly shot. As you can see in the drawing the red "X" is closest to the heart. Clearly the black "X" is further from the heart but is the only shot between the 2 that will kill the deer. We all know what a lethal shot is. After Dad got screwed out of a nice fallow deer at LBL several years ago I vowed never to let that happen again. It's not that a want a deer that bad, I'm just not going to let a scumbag get a deer he didn't kill. Yeah, and you could "unzip his coat" from the but to his shoulders cutting nothing but hair and be closer to the heart than either one. Only a moron would make the arguement he owned it though and just liket the leg shot you point out in all likely hood the two hunters would never even meet they would be so far apart. None of it really matters to me any more. My days of wandering around hunting white butts and shooting them like rabbits passed decades ago. When you hear me shoot, I get down and put my tag on it. You can bring the truck because I don't need to chase them around searching and argueing over who killed what.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Dec 3, 2008 10:07:48 GMT -5
1st lethal hit should be the owner but it doesn't always work out that way. My hunting location dictates my shot placement.
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Dec 3, 2008 10:28:07 GMT -5
When you hear me shoot, I get down and put my tag on it. You can bring the truck because I don't need to chase them around searching and argueing over who killed what. If we were all as good as you this would never come to question.
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Post by powderfinger on Dec 3, 2008 19:25:27 GMT -5
None of it really matters to me any more. My days of wandering around hunting white butts and shooting them like rabbits passed decades ago. When you hear me shoot, I get down and put my tag on it. You can bring the truck because I don't need to chase them around searching and arguing over who killed what. YEAH! Thats what I'm talking about.
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Post by ridgerunner on Dec 3, 2008 20:01:26 GMT -5
If you make a vital hit most likely you're gonna watch that deer go down. If it's not a mortal hit and someone else finishes him off it's their deer. Blood doesn't mean crap many deer are shot every year by irresponsible people who grab their bow without ever practicing before season. I;ve seen it many times, drives me nuts!They'll wound six deer for every one they harvest. If it's not a vital shot/hit my advice is to become more proficient with your weapon so you don't have that issue. I'm not saying sh** doesn't happen, all of us have had a miss once in a while ,but there's guys who do it year after year after year.
Double lung and that deer will drop in sight of your stand, non-issue...If you can't hit with a compound/recurve or longbow consistenly you could always buy a crossbow, just point and shoot like a gun..that way you can hunt archery , but not have to work as hard practicing.For the guys who don't have the time to become proficient with their weapon and just wanna hunt archery..We won't open that can of worms though..
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Post by ridgerunner on Dec 3, 2008 20:08:25 GMT -5
If we're talking firearms. If you take a shot with a shotgun this day and age and that deer runs off you a bad shot...know your weapon, shoot it over and over before season. I know guys who never check their guns before season...NEVER..it's crazy. Go out and shoot your guns until there is no questions..I shoot at least 5 boxes is slugs thorugh my shotgun every year before season..Many guys are just ill-prepared!
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