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Post by cambygsp on Oct 14, 2005 5:16:22 GMT -5
I seen a discussion on another site where a poster was complaining that a neighboring landowner was set up too close to the property line.
The complainer discovered this when he went in to set his stand up close to that SAME property line.
If you were a landowner in this situation, how would you handle it?
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Post by jajwrigh on Oct 14, 2005 6:13:28 GMT -5
10 paces, draw and fire...
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Post by kevin1 on Oct 14, 2005 6:58:55 GMT -5
It's his land on that side of the line , he can set up wherever he wants . If he gets to his stand before you get to yours then that's just too bad , find another place to set up . If it bothers you that much go out there when he isn't on stand and spray some Plotsaver or rotten eggs so he won't see any deer .
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Post by mbogo on Oct 14, 2005 7:26:20 GMT -5
That could possibly be considered hunter harassment. If not, it is still kind of petty.
I would first talk to the person to explain that I will be hunting my own property and would not appreciate him shooting a deer on my side of the fence without my permission. If he demonstrates any ill will or a bad attitude I would conceal a scouting camera w/ video mode on my property to catch him if he trespasses.
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Post by psychobubba on Oct 14, 2005 7:54:42 GMT -5
if its hes land let hem or her be ,try to get along so you may be able to retrieve you deer if need be and return the favor to them.
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Post by ctfarms on Oct 14, 2005 8:58:39 GMT -5
I started that thread. After I spoke to the landowner he agreed to call me when someone was going to hunt that stand and I would make sure no one was hunting in that area. He said he has been hunting the land for 8 years. I asked him if he had met the previous landowner and he said NO. Guess what...the next day his buddy was hunting the stand. My daughter and I went out yesterday afternoon and found three arrows on MY property. I am sick of it, so I put up a hang on stand 20 yards away from his and have invited some friends to hunt the stand this weekend. If that doesnt work then I am going to start my logging of one tree 10 yards form the property line for the rest of the season each time I see there vehicles parked.
Keven 1: Stand Placement is not the issue. I could care less where he hunts on HIS property. Where he shoots the animal is the issue. Would you shoot a animal on someone elses property without permission? I did not have a problem with him shooting/tracking a wounded deer on my property with permission but the agreement was to take the time to call me before hand and he did not do this.
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Post by cambygsp on Oct 14, 2005 9:42:31 GMT -5
Thats kinda odd.
You think they shot at 3 different deer or shot 3 arrows at one.
It's also kinda odd that they would not try to recover their arrows.....if they didnt care anything about shooting over onto your property, I wouldnt think they would think twice about tresspassing onto your property to recover their arrows.
My guess is that several folks hunt your neighbors land, it's obvious he don't controll the hunting with a iron fist. more than likely he has not communicated to all the folks he allows in, that you are also looking for opportunity in the same area.
As for your buddys that you have lined up to hunt that area this weekend, I sure hope you have filled them in on the situation, as they may be getting in a pi$$ing match that they don't want to be part of, and it may ruin valuable hunting time.
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 14, 2005 10:25:02 GMT -5
A property line is a property line.
He can hunt his side and I can hun t mine.
No shooting onto the other guy's side.
Trailing a deer should be OK to both sides of the line.
Settle all this BEFORE SEASON..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2005 10:38:18 GMT -5
I don't see a problem with hunting very near a property line as long as... 1. You are not horning in on your neighbor's hunting area...if you know your neighbor is going to be hunting right there, it would not be cool to move your stand right in to the same area.
2. You don't shoot at a deer that is on his side. It is ok, in my opinion to hunt in an area that takes advantage of deer coming off of another property on to yours...i.e. a heavilly travelled trail, but not until that deer has clearly crossed the line. After all, they aren't his deer and they aren't my deer. But the minute you fire at a deer that isn't on your property, you have made yourself a poacher in my opinion.
3. I agree with Woody, that you need to know your neighbor and have a pre-agreed plan for retreiving a deer that might cross the property line. Where we hunt, it is allowed that we trail a deer across the line, but all due consideration for the possibility of other hunters is given...in other words, I would never trail a deer into another property during the middle of prime deer movement/hunting hours.
It sounds like the guy in this situation was setting up specifically to shoot onto another property. That is just plain illegal.
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Post by ctfarms on Oct 14, 2005 12:25:13 GMT -5
I wish this matter was resolved before the season but it was not due to the fact he never was out there and I just purchased the property this spring. There are two people that (so far) are hunting the stand on the property line. The owner and a friend. The owner shot all of the arrows we found. He told me he had shot at 6 deer and missed them all. He did not want to look for the arrows with me (he knew we would find them on MY land). I guess he uses the same shaft with different broadheads. Like I said they are not experenced/ethical hunters... tennis shoes, blue jeans and a camo shirt. Doesnt play the wind, practice, ect.
As far as my buddies. They know whats up and they are not bow hunters. Just keeping an eye out for me.
I am the last person that enjoys conflict so I am going to speak to the land owner again and try to explain once again what the requirements are for hunting my land. (a phone call) If that does not work I will call a CO.
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Post by jkd on Oct 14, 2005 13:41:59 GMT -5
The original issue posted on the HH site was that CT owns a woods and the adjoing property owner owns an open field... the guy CT is talking about set up in the field mere yards from his woods...
I've run into the same thing on my farm... guys who have permission to hunt the crop field south of my woods, and year-in-year-out, I have to run them out of the corners of the woods (i.e. they're originally positioned inside my fence line), so they go about 10 yards down the fence line and sit in the tall grass (beans in that field are now cut)...
KD
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 14, 2005 15:10:43 GMT -5
They aren't hunting an open filed.
Sounds like they are shooting into the woods.
Either the other landowner neds to put a stop to it or the CO should.
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Post by jkd on Oct 14, 2005 17:04:12 GMT -5
Woody,
Maybe we're talking about two different situations... here was what "Hoosier Huntin" posted on HH...
[glow=red,2,300] bought some property early this year. I have built a house, pole barn, fenced 10 acres for the horses and planted a 5 acre food plot. I have also posted all of the property. There is a wood stand the land owner next to me has up that is 7 yards from the property line. I own the woods he owns the 30 acre field. The only way he could shoot a deer that would not be on my property is to shoot it in the his field.[/glow]
Any way you shake it, it's always a pain when you can't just go in a hunt your own ground without running into to problems with adjoining properties...
KD
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 14, 2005 17:28:31 GMT -5
I think we are on the same page. Down here, a father and two sons owned wooded ground next to another person's crop field. That farmer had problem deer permits and he gave them to soem "hunters" They proceeded to hang stands on the father/sons property - albiet the edge. These guys started shoting bucks ONLY. The father/sons found out about it and out came the CO. He told them they could shoot deer, BUT ONLY in the field. As long as the deer was in the woods it could not be shot. And the CO also confiscated the antlers.. Woody, Maybe we're talking about two different situations... here was what "Hoosier Huntin" posted on HH... [glow=red,2,300] bought some property early this year. I have built a house, pole barn, fenced 10 acres for the horses and planted a 5 acre food plot. I have also posted all of the property. There is a wood stand the land owner next to me has up that is 7 yards from the property line. I own the woods he owns the 30 acre field. The only way he could shoot a deer that would not be on my property is to shoot it in the his field.[/glow] Any way you shake it, it's always a pain when you can't just go in a hunt your own ground without running into to problems with adjoining properties... KD
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Post by cambygsp on Oct 14, 2005 17:52:18 GMT -5
I know one thing, it's sure a sucky deal. I can see where both landowners are pretty much screwed. OK....so he agrees to stay within the law and only shoot a deer *IF* it steps onto his property or is in route to the other property. And you agree to do the very SAME thing...on your property. It still don't really solve the problem of the landowners (both) wanting to sit their stands within 30 yards of each other. When they say "the 30 acre field" What kind is it? Is it CRP, harvested ag, standing ag.?...Is it a "food source" or bedding area? How does he have a stand "in the field?...or is the stand on your property? Is there a small tree line on his property, that he is set up in? If so, realisticly a deer could be traveling that tree line on his property. Thats sure sucks,........ dealing with public land type problems when you OWN your ground. But he could be telling his buddies the exact same story, only reverse!
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Post by bsutravis on Oct 15, 2005 9:21:46 GMT -5
I have a friend who had a similar situation over in Ohio... The neighbor seemed to nicely put the situation to rest when they talked about their stand proximity, he said that he would just move to a different location....no problem. My buddy went out the next weekend, hunted the morning and didn't see any deer whatsoever which was odd....on the way out of the woods he found chunks of Dial soap all over the woods where the guy next door had stood on the prop line and thrown the soap all over my buddy's land. When the neighbor was confronted of course he denied it.........
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Post by cambygsp on Oct 15, 2005 9:35:53 GMT -5
I just don't see a solution WITHOUT one of the landowners giving something up.
Even if everyone (the land owner and his guests and the OTHER landowner and his GUEST)... AGREED to obey and RESPECT property lines.....everyone jamming into that ONE area to hunt aint gonna work out. Why would you want to sit and look at the other guy in the stand. Is this the ONLY spot between the TWO properties?
Maybe work out a deal....."share" the spot. One landowner gets it on odd numbered days, and the other gets it on even numbered days!!!!!
Heck, maybe even get togather and put a food plot there! TWO neighboring landowners in a partnership has got to be a "good thing"!
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Post by kevin1 on Oct 15, 2005 16:44:38 GMT -5
It would seem that the only responsible move would be to plant a tall hedge bgetween the two properties .
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Oct 18, 2005 9:03:18 GMT -5
I have had to deal with this same issue many times in the past. If my stand is up first, or second it does not matter as I perfer to move my stand location for undisturbed enjoyable hunts. It's not worth the grief to me to be competing with another hunter for the same patch of woods along the same property line.
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Post by squirrelhunter on Oct 18, 2005 9:46:46 GMT -5
I have had to deal with this same issue many times in the past. If my stand is up first, or second it does not matter as I perfer to move my stand location for undisturbed enjoyable hunts. It's not worth the grief to me to be competing with another hunter for the same patch of woods along the same property line. Same here.It's not worth the hassle.There's more than one place I can park my seat ;D.
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