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Post by lugnutz on Jul 29, 2006 18:57:04 GMT -5
What, if any, is the difference between your local co-op's seed and biologic seed? I ask cause i'm not one to buy named brand crap if its the same stuff.
Thanks,
Lug
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Post by steiny on Jul 29, 2006 20:03:24 GMT -5
I'm with you lug.
Look up the ingredients in the bag and buy the stuff from an Ag supplier and you'll save some money. Any bag of seed with a picture of a big buck on the bag is likely overpriced.
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Post by hornharvester on Jul 29, 2006 22:28:42 GMT -5
most of the deer plot seed you buy from the sporting goods store are a mix of two or more of these seeds, red, white and yellow clover, rye, oats, wheat, red top turnip and rape. any of these or combinations of these will work good. i use shot plot which is clovers, red top turnip and rape. ive got my plots plowed right now and will plant them in a couple of weeks. the turnips and rape will mature this fall and then the clovers will come on next spring. this has worked well for me the last few years. h.h.
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Post by kbiddle on Aug 4, 2006 7:32:51 GMT -5
Based on what I have found is you can get most local CO-OP's to replicate any blend you would want... Like others said just get the contents from the bag... This is ALLOT less expensive than the brand names...
I looked into this a bunch.. and discussed it with my local biologist as well and he too agreed you are buying mostly the name and paying for advertising...
Kevin
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Post by solohunter on Aug 25, 2006 4:57:29 GMT -5
|Is the seed you are buying from your local ag farms pre-inoculated?
Solohunter
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Post by dwhunting on Aug 25, 2006 14:27:45 GMT -5
I would like to say that recently I planted a two acre plot with 3 different sections. My plot is located in the hills of Orange County which doesn't have the greatest soil in most areas. I have been Liming and fertilizing for two years know. I planted Whitetail extreme, Green patch plus and a local ag brand consistent of clover and alfalfa. Would you be willing to guess which product looks the best? The Ag brand from our local mill cost half the price and is looking the best so far. I would also like to say that I'm very impressed with the Tecomate Annuals-couldn't be happier with it.
Plan on purchasing Local Ag brand and Tecomate from here on out.
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Post by hoyt1166 on Aug 28, 2006 9:37:44 GMT -5
Lug,
Just finished a one-acre food plot. The first thing we did was to plant it with wheat. The wheat came up extremely quickly as it rained the day we planted it. So, we got a great cover with the wheat. I went to a co-op and had them mix the same things they put in biologic for me. I got a 10 pound bag that covered the one-acre plot. That bag cost me $32. I bought the wheat in bulk and got 500 pounds for $40. We spread 200 pounds of the wheat (we had to hand spread it because the land is too wet to work with a tractor). So, for about $52 my buddy and I planted a 1 acre food plot that is just now starting to look really good. The land has already held great deer but we're starting to get some really great deer pics on the trail cams and last week, I saw the largest deer print I've ever seen in my life. At the cost of what I paid to do a 1 acre plot, I'd tell you to go to your local co-op and save yourself the money.
Hoyt
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Post by danf on Aug 28, 2006 15:57:23 GMT -5
I'm planning on buying feed oats this year and doing less than 1/2 acre. Called tonight, $14/100 lbs! Buck Forage oats are ~$24-26/50 lbs!
Still waiting on a price on chicory, clover and brassica. I'd call ahead to your co-op, my local one is basically out of everything but alfalfa right now, but should be able to have seed in a week. Which is fine because my main area won't be ready until next week anyway...
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Post by hornharvester on Aug 29, 2006 8:58:18 GMT -5
I'm planning on buying feed oats this year and doing less than 1/2 acre. Called tonight, $14/100 lbs! Buck Forage oats are ~$24-26/50 lbs! Still waiting on a price on chicory, clover and brassica. I'd call ahead to your co-op, my local one is basically out of everything but alfalfa right now, but should be able to have seed in a week. Which is fine because my main area won't be ready until next week anyway... danf, take it from someone who knows from experience make sure you get oats that have been cleaned or next year you'll have a food plot full of unwanted weeds. cleaned oats have the weed seeds taken out and dont cost that much more. use fertilizer too and your plots will attract a lot more deer. i use 300 lb to the acre but you can get by with less. at 300 lb to the acre it costs about 50.00 to apply. good luck with your plot. h.h. |
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Post by danf on Aug 29, 2006 20:51:54 GMT -5
Thanks. Hadn't thought about cleaned seeed. I'm used to state certified seed as a landscaper, but didn't think about the possibility of weed seeds in the feed oats. Got prices on seed from the co-op today. Chicory- $9/lb! Any quantity I want, they can get. I'm going to wait until spring to re-plant my chicory. Rape- $2.50/lb. Had him order 5 pounds. White clover- didn't know for sure but guessed between $1.80-$2.50/lb. Ordered 10 pounds. The order should be in late on Friday. I'll have it picked up by Tuesday afternoon. If all goes well this weekend, I'll have a new food plot for this year, and a LOT more space ready to go for next spring!  I've been taking pics, I'll post them later when all is said and done. |
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Post by hornharvester on Aug 29, 2006 22:32:12 GMT -5
danf,
if its not to late you should get a couple pounds of red top turnips to mix in. i'll guarantee you like them because are the last thing to die out. up here mine will stay green until late dec - mid jan and the deer love them. they are fairly cheap too. h.h.
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Post by danf on Aug 30, 2006 6:00:59 GMT -5
I cleaned out the turnips at work (I work for a greenhouse), and I'm going to attempt to clean out another local greenhouse in the next few days too. Also mixing in some sweet peas as well. |
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Post by lugnutz on Sept 8, 2006 23:13:29 GMT -5
what is the speed rate on the spreader? And can i mix all those seeds together before i plant?
Thanks
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Post by danf on Sept 9, 2006 9:03:48 GMT -5
All my seeding was done by hand, as the oats wouldn't go through the holes in the spreader very well, and the ground was just to rough for it anyway.
For my ~45'x50' plot, I used 50 pounds of oats in two passes, the second at a 90 degree angle to the first.
The smaller seeds (turnips, rape, clover, etc), I mixed with sawdust as a filler to help ensure even coverage. If you look at my pics, the bucket that I put the seeds in is a 1 gallon drywall mud bucket. Probably had it 1/3 full for the turnips and radishes, that got me around 12-15'x 45' seeded. It was 1/2 full with sawdust, then added 2 pounds of clover and topped it off with rape (probably another 2-2.5 pounds), mixed it and was able to seed 95% of my 45x50 area.
Couldn't tell you how to easily calibrate a spreader. I've done enough lawn seeding that I've gotten able to gauge how well the seed is spreading. It's better to go too light the first time, then make a second pass to ensure adequate coverage. Make your second pass 90 degrees to the first.
HTH.
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I've been taking pics, I'll post them later when all is said and done.