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Post by deadeer on May 2, 2023 11:27:36 GMT -5
I'm not a landowner myself, but have plenty of experience helping landowners with their properties and problems.
Definately start out on the right foot and take the nice guy approach. Maybe document things to show that you've taken the high road. Then gravitate towards other methods, such as calling animal control or the game warden or such.
Good luck, and congratulations.
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Post by huntnandplumbn on May 2, 2023 11:43:12 GMT -5
Definitely hoping for the best of outcomes that we can be great neighbors. I’m all about being on the right foot to start. I’m a bit skeptical when there are so many dogs. I mean that many full size dogs seems a bit goofy but we’ll see.
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Post by treetop on May 2, 2023 13:30:41 GMT -5
Definitely hoping for the best of outcomes that we can be great neighbors. I’m all about being on the right foot to start. I’m a bit skeptical when there are so many dogs. I mean that many full size dogs seems a bit goofy but we’ll see. I’d hate to buy that much dog food
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Post by greghopper on May 2, 2023 14:02:20 GMT -5
Definitely hoping for the best of outcomes that we can be great neighbors. I’m all about being on the right foot to start. I’m a bit skeptical when there are so many dogs. I mean that many full size dogs seems a bit goofy but we’ll see. I would do everything you can before calling a third party…. When you have to get others involved it will probably get nasty. My point with Trapping was if he doesn’t see someone coming and checking traps he may not take you seriously.Hopefully you don’t have to resort to trapping to gain results!
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Post by huntnandplumbn on May 2, 2023 14:18:05 GMT -5
Definitely hoping for the best of outcomes that we can be great neighbors. I’m all about being on the right foot to start. I’m a bit skeptical when there are so many dogs. I mean that many full size dogs seems a bit goofy but we’ll see. I would do everything you can before calling a third party…. When you have to get others involved it was probably get nasty. I doubt this area even has a darn animal control. Unfortunately for the dogs the third party might be brought to you by Federal ammunition 😬. I absolutely hope it doesn’t come to that but I won’t be letting it ruin the place either. It’s really up to him/her to make that decision after we have a good talk about it.
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Post by huntnandplumbn on May 2, 2023 14:23:28 GMT -5
Also as a side note, I’m just worried about the kids going up and down the driveway. When they’re out they have no problem chasing the truck all the way down it.
I’m going to give it a test myself the next time I’m there. At least I’ll know their temperament.
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Post by greghopper on May 2, 2023 14:33:50 GMT -5
I would do everything you can before calling a third party…. When you have to get others involved it was probably get nasty. I doubt this area even has a darn animal control. Unfortunately for the dogs the third party might be brought to you by Federal ammunition 😬. I absolutely hope it doesn’t come to that but I won’t be letting it ruin the place either. It’s really up to him/her to make that decision after we have a good talk about it. Legally you can’t just shoot a dog on your property unless it causes damages or threaten/Bites you! Personally shooting someone pet wouldn’t be a option IMO
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Post by featherduster on May 2, 2023 15:11:57 GMT -5
The owner of these dogs probably bought his property so he could enjoy his animals just like you bought yours to develop it for hunting.... he was there first.
You should buy something nice from a high end bakery and visit him & her this weekend and introduce yourself. Explain to them that you have owned ground before and that it is being crowded out by development. Ask them if they hunt, ask them to keep an eye out for your stuff while your away.
Put camaras out, document incidents with date, time and photos. FIND THE TRUE PROPERTY LINES WHEN YOU HAVE IT SURVEYED.
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Post by huntnandplumbn on May 2, 2023 16:04:16 GMT -5
The owner of these dogs probably bought his property so he could enjoy his animals just like you bought yours to develop it for hunting.... he was there first. You should buy something nice from a high end bakery and visit him & her this weekend and introduce yourself. Explain to them that you have owned ground before and that it is being crowded out by development. Ask them if they hunt, ask them to keep an eye out for your stuff while your away. Put camaras out, document incidents with date, time and photos. FIND THE TRUE PROPERTY LINES WHEN YOU HAVE IT SURVEYED. Also a very good approach and right in line with where I’d like to start. Will probably mention the trapping thing as well and see where it goes. Hopefully I’m worrying about what ends up to be nothing. He’ll have to make some adjustments for sure. Time will tell. I’m a dog person so taking things to another level is low on the list. Property has been surveyed and I’ve been in the process of marking it with both purple paint and aluminum no trespassing signs. Have some camera enforced signs coming as well this week.
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Post by Woody Williams on May 2, 2023 16:37:40 GMT -5
Last year I got a couple pictures of a boxer dog and another one the same size on my food plot. I had never seen them before. I sent the pictures to friend that lives close by where I hunt. He says he thought they belonged to a person that had just built a home about 3/8 of a mile (as the cross flies) from me. He drove past the home a few days later and stopped and talked to the owner. He showed him the picture and told him a lot of folks up there take deer hunting very seriously and would shoot a dog on sight. I wouldn’t unless the dig is aggressive towards me… not the barking, but growling, hackles raised up and advancing. I haven’t seen them or got pictures of them since. I drive past his house on occasions and he has those two big dogs im a small pen. Not the way I’d treat a dog..
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Post by schall53 on May 3, 2023 8:22:56 GMT -5
Definitely hoping for the best of outcomes that we can be great neighbors. I’m all about being on the right foot to start. I’m a bit skeptical when there are so many dogs. I mean that many full size dogs seems a bit goofy but we’ll see. I would do everything you can before calling a third party…. When you have to get others involved it will probably get nasty. My point with Trapping was if he doesn’t see someone coming and checking traps he may not take you seriously.Hopefully you don’t have to resort to trapping to gain results! The other side of the trapping issue is if you set some and he sees you aren’t checking them daily. You may be the one getting a visit from the warden.
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Post by esshup on May 3, 2023 9:31:40 GMT -5
I would do everything you can before calling a third party…. When you have to get others involved it will probably get nasty. My point with Trapping was if he doesn’t see someone coming and checking traps he may not take you seriously.Hopefully you don’t have to resort to trapping to gain results! The other side of the trapping issue is if you set some and he sees you aren’t checking them daily. You may be the one getting a visit from the warden. With the snares, all he has to do is close the loop when he leaves. Same as a snapped trap in a set, right? These guys were showing up on my trail cam, 1/4 mile behind the house on a regular basis.
I showed the picture around and nobody knew where they were coming from. I told the people I showed the pictures to that I was seeing a number of coyotes on the property too, and that I was going to set out traps and snares for them in the next week or so. I haven't gotten any more pictures of them. Still don't know where they were coming from, but in any case, the end result is what I was trying to achieve.
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Post by schall53 on May 3, 2023 9:35:13 GMT -5
The other side of the trapping issue is if you set some and he sees you aren’t checking them daily. You may be the one getting a visit from the warden. With the snares, all he has to do is close the loop when he leaves. Same as a snapped trap in a set, right? These guys were showing up on my trail cam, 1/4 mile behind the house on a regular basis.
I showed the picture around and nobody knew where they were coming from. I told the people I showed the pictures to that I was seeing a number of coyotes on the property too, and that I was going to set out traps and snares for them in the next week or so. I haven't gotten any more pictures of them. Still don't know where they were coming from, but in any case, the end result is what I was trying to achieve.
I think closing the loop would work.
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Post by greghopper on May 3, 2023 9:48:00 GMT -5
Yes just placing the trap and not setting them is legal and shouldn’t need checked
This is the only rule I see for Snares…
Snares It is only legal to use a snare to trap a wild animal on land you own or with the written permission of the landowner. The maximum legal circumference for snare loops is 15 inches, unless at least half of the snare loop is covered by water or if the snare employs a relaxing snare lock. A relaxing snare lock allows the snare loop to loosen slightly to reduce the possibility of strangulation. Regulations on snare size and lock are designed to prevent accidental loss of domestic animals.
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Post by greghopper on May 3, 2023 9:57:50 GMT -5
Personally…. I bet there is a bigger Two legged problem than 4 legged! Maybe not….
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Post by huntnandplumbn on May 3, 2023 10:12:19 GMT -5
I think just putting the thought of the dogs being trapped should be enough to force them into making a decision. Either protect the dogs from unintentional harm or not care in which case I feel like that puts the dogs fate on them. I also did some research and did find an animal shelter so I may stop by there to inquire about wandering untagged dogs and dropping them off. Just to have my ducks in a row.
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Post by treetop on May 3, 2023 11:28:22 GMT -5
I don’t think I would lead with that I’d probably just tell him your plan and ask him to keep his dogs at home it may be a non issue who ever you bought it from may of not cared not that it makes his dogs running right but I’d try the nice guy route like I said he may end up as a friend or watch dog for you
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2023 22:49:30 GMT -5
Last year I got a couple pictures of a boxer dog and another one the same size on my food plot. I had never seen them before. I sent the pictures to friend that lives close by where I hunt. He says he thought they belonged to a person that had just built a home about 3/8 of a mile (as the cross flies) from me. He drove past the home a few days later and stopped and talked to the owner. He showed him the picture and told him a lot of folks up there take deer hunting very seriously and would shoot a dog on sight. I wouldn’t unless the dig is aggressive towards me… not the barking, but growling, hackles raised up and advancing. I haven’t seen them or got pictures of them since. I drive past his house on occasions and he has those two big dogs im a small pen. Not the way I’d treat a dog.. Some people shouldn't own dogs
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Post by huntnandplumbn on May 8, 2023 12:02:06 GMT -5
Finally met the dog neighbor. Owns a small well drilling company. Seemed nice though I did hear my fare share of how he was a straight shooter type guy 1 or maybe 12 times. We spoke about my new use of the property which sounded good to him. I mentioned the dogs but I think he was a bit delusional that they stay on his property. I did bring up trapping in the next couple of weeks so hopefully that will get him moving in the right direction. Left it on real good terms and not overly pushy. I did get his number so after I run some cameras I’ll start to feed some of the pictures his way so he has a clear picture of their actual travel onto my land.
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Post by deadeer on May 8, 2023 12:17:32 GMT -5
Sounds like a good start!
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