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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2021 16:49:48 GMT -5
I cant believe it either. Factories here in town begging for people. People going in with an ankle monitor and still getting a job, that is how hard up they are. You can go to one of them and if you will work make 100,000 a year. People are just lazy. What factory is paying 100k for entry level work?
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Post by coaldust on Jan 21, 2021 11:55:41 GMT -5
They are starting them at 21.50. So first 40 hours 40x21.50= is 860. Now is it time and half after 40 hours??? I dont know that one I dont get paid my hour. They have shifts for 8, 10 and 12 hours. I have a good paying job & worked 56 & sometimes 64 hours a week. Sometimes I worked less & most I ever made was 85,000
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Post by treetop on Jan 21, 2021 12:18:56 GMT -5
I cant believe it either. Factories here in town begging for people. People going in with an ankle monitor and still getting a job, that is how hard up they are. You can go to one of them and if you will work make 100,000 a year. People are just lazy. What factory is paying 100k for entry level work? Personally I don’t know of any but I do know some jobs in my area starting pay is 18 to 22 per hour for unskilled labor with benefits after 30 days and a lot of them are offering 5 k sign on if you make it six months so your talking 45 to 50 k for unskilled IDK but that sure seems like a job you could live on pretty easy with a little budget and some for thought unless your living in a high priced area chance are with out a job your not Granted that’s not a lot for a family of four and your not going to be living the high life but that’s starting pay with out overtime raises your wife working or some side work to help
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Post by deadeer on Jan 21, 2021 12:33:24 GMT -5
What factory is paying 100k for entry level work? Personally I don’t know of any but I do know some jobs in my area starting pay is 18 to 22 per hour for unskilled labor with benefits after 30 days and a lot of them are offering 5 k sign on if you make it six months so your talking 45 to 50 k for unskilled IDK but that sure seems like a job you could live on pretty easy with a little budget and some for thought unless your living in a high priced area chance are with out a job your not Granted that’s not a lot for a family of four and your not going to be living the high life but that’s starting pay with out overtime raises your wife working or some side work to help Wow, I am living a real crap life then. I am highly skilled as a diesel mechanic/leadman and am killing myself for $50-60k/yr. I need an unskilled, no/responsibility job for good money like that! I wish... Lol.
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Post by ukwil on Jan 21, 2021 13:02:12 GMT -5
Alot of our entry level guys can knock on the door of 100k a year. Most aren't willing to live in there though
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Post by jjas on Jan 21, 2021 14:53:30 GMT -5
Alot of our entry level guys can knock on the door of 100k a year. Most aren't willing to live in there though What do the entry level guys @ your employer do for a living? And how much overtime would they have to work to make $100,000 a year? Just curious.
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Post by treetop on Jan 21, 2021 16:46:28 GMT -5
Personally I don’t know of any but I do know some jobs in my area starting pay is 18 to 22 per hour for unskilled labor with benefits after 30 days and a lot of them are offering 5 k sign on if you make it six months so your talking 45 to 50 k for unskilled IDK but that sure seems like a job you could live on pretty easy with a little budget and some for thought unless your living in a high priced area chance are with out a job your not Granted that’s not a lot for a family of four and your not going to be living the high life but that’s starting pay with out overtime raises your wife working or some side work to help Wow, I am living a real crap life then. I am highly skilled as a diesel mechanic/leadman and am killing myself for $50-60k/yr. I need an unskilled, no/responsibility job for good money like that! I wish... Lol. It’s unbelievable but I see signs all day long with that on them and it’s on the radio all the time around here One of the guys that works for us kid just got a job as a picker / order filler he walks or rides around a huge warehouse and picks a item from a bin puts it in a tote or on a skid no thinking at all his scan gun tells him were it is how many to pick and if it’s wrong it tells him by a alarm on his gun. I don’t know it for a fact but he says he started 18 bucks plus incentives 3000 if he makes three months full benefits after 30 days two weeks vacation and a dollar raise in 90 days. He’s says his kid makes rate easily and it puts his pay around 21 bucks His kid is a worker or at least every time I’v been around him he was so I’d believe it is probably true
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Post by ukwil on Jan 21, 2021 17:23:09 GMT -5
Alot of our entry level guys can knock on the door of 100k a year. Most aren't willing to live in there though What do the entry level guys @ your employer do for a living? And how much overtime would they have to work to make $100,000 a year? Just curious. Some work assembly lines and some work production running machinery. Our new product lines are mandatory 10 hours 6 days a week with options for 12 hours and most Sundays. Like I said to make it you have to live in there. I hired in back in 2000 making $15.11 an hour and easily made over 75k then
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Post by parrothead on Jan 21, 2021 17:23:09 GMT -5
My brother was having some work done in Indy on his building HVAC said 2 different companies stopped by and tried to hire those workers away from current employer.
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Post by blackmouthcur on Jan 21, 2021 17:45:40 GMT -5
My best year was in 2000, I worked 256 extra turns. But you have to live at work like you guys say. Looking back, I don’t know if missing out on the family was worth it.
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Post by ukwil on Jan 21, 2021 17:49:11 GMT -5
My best year was in 2000, I worked 256 extra turns. But you have to live at work like you guys say. Looking back, I don’t know if missing out on the family was worth it. Exactly. I looked back at the year I made the most and that very thought went through my mind.
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Post by treetop on Jan 21, 2021 18:41:50 GMT -5
It is and isn’t hard to be away that much but if you saved the cash and lived on what you use to make it adds up very quick and opens doors to things you normally could not do. I’m not married anymore and no kids so I have worked a lot for the most part I have worked 60 plus hours for 30 years but iI have been able to hunt and fish in places a lot of people will only dream of paid my house off way early got a decent retirement plan. I’m not rich by any stretch but have done well for myself
Had I had kids and still be married my view would of been different I still would of worked extra to make money it’s how I am for me it’s not really the money its nice don’t get me wrong but for me it’s figuring out ways to do it guess that’s why I’m self employed
Looking back I’d say yes it was but there’s no doubt I missed some of life doing it
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Post by Ahawkeye on Jan 21, 2021 20:44:49 GMT -5
What we see as "I have to provide for my family" is ingrained into our minds. The amount of people in our country that want free money is baffling to me.
Back to the OP if someone WANTED to work they could work and make good money. Another missing component to the totals we are coming to is bonus money. A lot of places vary on how they pay it or if they pay it at all.
One final note there are way too many here in the US that want a free ride from Uncle Sam, when all they have to do is keep out of trouble, stay off drugs and do the work.
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Post by SFC (R) B on Jan 21, 2021 20:47:23 GMT -5
You really want to know about horrific "employee" stories.....My first federal job was working for the Postal Service in the Indy processing plant as a union employee. Then I got promoted to Labor Relations and had to deal with employee discipline and the 3 postal unions. Later I did labor relations for the Department of Defense Schools in Europe and had to do the same but with 3 different teachers unions. I had no concept of just how lazy, corrupt and self interested people really were until I did those jobs. Add in the unions hitching their wagons to fighting for the absolute lowest common denominator of employees.....I HATED those jobs. Had to fight with union reps and listen to worthless "supervisors" cry baby about problem employees when they wouldn't do the work to discipline the right way.
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Post by esshup on Jan 21, 2021 23:02:56 GMT -5
My best year was in 2000, I worked 256 extra turns. But you have to live at work like you guys say. Looking back, I don’t know if missing out on the family was worth it. We had a job getting a prototype truck built for UPS. I remember getting called in to HR and getting chewed out for logging 200 hours in 2 weeks time. All I said was go talk to the Director of Engineering. I forget how many hours I worked that year, or what I made, (salary +OT, still had to punch a clock) but I know that hiring people to work on the house because I couldn't be here to work on the house wasn't worth it - it was a wash money wise at the end of the year. Even had to have my Dad baby sit the house while work was being done because they needed to get inside the house too, and I couldn't be here. We DID get the contract to build the trucks, and management got a pretty hefty bonus. We didn't get squat besides the OT, AND the engineers on the project didn't work the weekends so a lot of time was wasted waiting for drawing revisions when we found boo-boos in their drawings as we made the prototype parts.
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Jan 22, 2021 6:18:51 GMT -5
I’ve had one application in last year. Job is posted on web site, indeed and also at community college. No one wants to work when there are handouts coming. I’m working 6 days a week now. Racking up OT for whatever when this crap ever ends.
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Post by beermaker on Jan 22, 2021 6:57:45 GMT -5
My brother was having some work done in Indy on his building HVAC said 2 different companies stopped by and tried to hire those workers away from current employer. This is a real problem around here with plumbing and HVAC. Most of the residential electrical contractors have a "no poach" agreement with each other. Meaning that they won't hire anyone without checking with the applicants previous or current employer. My HVAC guy once said "I'd like to fire half of theses @#$%^, but they'd be working for my competition tomorrow and I have no one to replace them."
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Post by bartiks on Jan 26, 2021 10:20:53 GMT -5
My 16 yr old has been rejected for 3 jobs this week. And a few others won't consider anyone under 18. I told her to keep looking and applying. It isn't impossible. I think she expected to be hired at 1st place she applied. Now she is stressed about it. I told her to buckle up, life rarely gets any easier. My uncle who started his own business which has grown to over 300 employees told me when he started out that "Every NO is one step closer to a YES". No need to get stressed about it, there will be plenty of other times in life that will let you down.
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Post by bartiks on Jan 26, 2021 10:32:29 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more about the younger generation not wanting to work, now don't get me wrong there are so go getters out there hitting it like their pants are on fire.
Buddy owns a plumbing business, last year he did 1.75 mil last year and is projected to get around 2.5 this year. He is working 6 days a week since no one wants to come work for him. He is paying a plumbers assistant $18+ starting out. And all that person does is just fetch parts.
He went to a conference late last year and said the common consensus is that at this rate in 10 years or so plumbers will be making as much as Doctor's do since no one wants to get into that trade any more. I know that I could work for him if things go south at the mine and I'm not opposed to it. All you have to do is get past the stigmata of dealing with urine and feces is all.
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Post by duff on Jan 26, 2021 10:43:26 GMT -5
My 16 yr old has been rejected for 3 jobs this week. And a few others won't consider anyone under 18. I told her to keep looking and applying. It isn't impossible. I think she expected to be hired at 1st place she applied. Now she is stressed about it. I told her to buckle up, life rarely gets any easier. My uncle who started his own business which has grown to over 300 employees told me when he started out that "Every NO is one step closer to a YES". No need to get stressed about it, there will be plenty of other times in life that will let you down. I can't win. She got hired by pappajohns and started to cry because her life is over now....lol. At min wage her 4.5 hr shift won't get her a new car, can you believe the horror! Lol. It is a rough world out there. She told me I would not understand her situation...
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