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Post by M4Madness on Jan 24, 2020 17:42:13 GMT -5
I don't believe that Indiana has the right habitat to mimic Iowa's hunting, even if the seasons and weapons allowed were matched 100%. We might not make to Iowa status, but we'd be 10x better than we are currently. In your opinion, how could Indiana improve its public land hunting to equate to Iowa's?
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Post by medic22 on Jan 24, 2020 17:51:32 GMT -5
All I see is a bunch of crying. You saw this coming 5 pages ago.. This escalated quickly.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 24, 2020 17:59:44 GMT -5
We might not make to Iowa status, but we'd be 10x better than we are currently. In your opinion, how could Indiana improve its public land hunting to equate to Iowa's? And how many actual countries have you deer hunted in Indiana and for how long?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 18:00:14 GMT -5
You saw this coming 5 pages ago.. This escalated quickly. I think it's incredibly important to speak out about what we want for Indiana and Hoosier hunters, because we already have lost certain hunting opportunities to appease the trophy hunters and I don't want to give up anymore.
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Post by mattfinney on Jan 24, 2020 18:02:45 GMT -5
We might not make to Iowa status, but we'd be 10x better than we are currently. In your opinion, how could Indiana improve its public land hunting to equate to Iowa's? Copy Iowa's season structure (gun season after November, no xbows, no hpr, etc), and restrict NR hunting using a draw system. Actually, if we did all that and kept OBR, I would guess that we would exceed Iowa's quality.
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Post by M4Madness on Jan 24, 2020 18:09:40 GMT -5
Indiana 2019:
Archery days: 97 Firearms days: 16 Muzzleloader days: 16 Special antlerless days: 11 Youth days: 2
Iowa 2019:
Archery days: 85 Firearms days: 14 Muzzleloader days: 28 Special antlerless days: 16 Youth days: 16
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Post by mattfinney on Jan 24, 2020 18:10:11 GMT -5
In your opinion, how could Indiana improve its public land hunting to equate to Iowa's? And how many actual countries have you deer hunted in Indiana and for how long? I grew up hunting in Morgan county. When I was a kid (38 now) we caught the tail end of "knocking on doors for permission" and hunted some small properties near our house. We also had permission to hunt a 100 acre farm in Owen county. We lost that property due to leasing in around 2009. At this time I lived in Terre Haute and this was the beginning of my public land hunting. I spent a lot of time at Fairbanks FWA, and hunted Chinook FWA a little as well. About 5 years ago, I had a job change and moved to Columbus, Indiana and started hunting Crosley FWA, Splinter Ridge FWA, and Austin bottoms conservation area. This winter I have been extensively scouting Atterbury FWA and Selmier state forest. I have taken a few nice bucks at Crosley, and my dad got lucky and shot a giant at Fairbanks back around '09.
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Post by mattfinney on Jan 24, 2020 18:14:15 GMT -5
Indiana 2019: Archery days: 97 Firearms days: 16 Muzzleloader days:16 Special antlerless days: 11 Youth days: 2 Iowa 2019: Archery days: 85 Firearms days: 14 Muzzleloader days: 28 Special antlerless days: 16 Youth days: 16 Indiana: November gun days: 16 Iowa: November gun days: 0 That's what makes all the difference. I'm not asking anyone to give up any days, just suggesting that a slight move in timing will yield tremendous benefits in quality.
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Post by M4Madness on Jan 24, 2020 18:23:26 GMT -5
In your opinion, how could Indiana improve its public land hunting to equate to Iowa's? Copy Iowa's season structure (gun season after November, no xbows, no hpr, etc), and restrict NR hunting using a draw system. Actually, if we did all that and kept OBR, I would guess that we would exceed Iowa's quality. My personal opinion is that Iowa will slowly move towards full inclusion of HPR's someday. They already allow anything larger than. 24" for the January antlerless season, and straight-walled cartridges like.444 Marlin and .45-70 Govt. during the regular firearms seasons. Also, Iowa allows crossbows for 19 days (2019 count).
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Post by greghopper on Jan 24, 2020 18:33:37 GMT -5
I think it's incredibly important to speak out about what we want for Indiana and Hoosier hunters, because we already have lost certain hunting opportunities to appease the trophy hunters and I don't want to give up anymore. Explain what your giving up to “appease the Trophy Hunter”.... can’t wait to read this skewed and kerfuffle information! And you don’t consider yourself a Trophy Hunter? Look in the mirror the picture will be clearer! SMH
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Post by M4Madness on Jan 24, 2020 18:35:31 GMT -5
Indiana: November gun days: 16 Iowa: November gun days: 0 That's what makes all the difference. I'm not asking anyone to give up any days, just suggesting that a slight move in timing will yield tremendous benefits in quality. There have been pushes in the past to move the Indiana firearms season farther from the rut, and they were always met with fierce opposition. I feel that Iowa has it wrong by holding a muzzleloader season in October where bucks are more-easily targeted.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 19:00:39 GMT -5
Indiana 2019: Archery days: 97 Firearms days: 16 Muzzleloader days:16 Special antlerless days: 11 Youth days: 2 Iowa 2019: Archery days: 85 Firearms days: 14 Muzzleloader days: 28 Special antlerless days: 16 Youth days: 16 Indiana: November gun days: 16 Iowa: November gun days: 0 That's what makes all the difference. I'm not asking anyone to give up any days, just suggesting that a slight move in timing will yield tremendous benefits in quality. We already have great quality in Indiana, and regarding your suggestion to have no November gun days, I say NO.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Jan 24, 2020 19:15:24 GMT -5
In your opinion, how could Indiana improve its public land hunting to equate to Iowa's? Copy Iowa's season structure (gun season after November, no xbows, no hpr, etc), and restrict NR hunting using a draw system. Actually, if we did all that and kept OBR, I would guess that we would exceed Iowa's quality. How do you get more mature bucks when we have more hunters and less habitat?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 19:26:46 GMT -5
Copy Iowa's season structure (gun season after November, no xbows, no hpr, etc), and restrict NR hunting using a draw system. Actually, if we did all that and kept OBR, I would guess that we would exceed Iowa's quality. How do you get more mature bucks when we have more hunters and less habitat? The professional wildlife biologists at the DNR do not manage the deer herd here to cater to trophy hunters, nor should they. We made our ONE concession with the idiotic one buck rule, and we won't make any more concessions. Period.
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Post by M4Madness on Jan 24, 2020 19:28:24 GMT -5
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Post by jjas on Jan 24, 2020 19:38:29 GMT -5
Matt Finney
I heard this same song and dance several years ago. I'll say the same thing now that I said then...
If you are obsessed with trophy hunting, more power to you. If you think Iowa is the holy grail of deer hunting, enjoy your time there.
As far as Indiana goes...bowhunters have right @ 6 weeks before the firearms hunters have their two weeks. If you think that's the wrong way to manage a herd, more power to you. But as both a bow and gun hunter, it's hardly fair to expect the group of hunters who actually manage the deer herd to stay out of the woods until December just to appease the trophy bow hunters who can't stand the thought of the unwashed masses killing "their" trophy buck. I've seen grown men get mad because Indiana allows the weekend before the bow season starts for kids and they don't want anyone in the woods "messing up" their October 1 hunts. I had one genius on another site talk about how he was going to lease up every piece of ground he could just to keep hunters away from "his" deer.
And before you go off on a "quality" tangent, the reality is Indiana does have quality hunting. The herd is healthy, and if you look through the harvest data over the years, you'll see bucks and does are normally killed on a 1 to 1 basis.
Some people hunt strictly for meat, some for fun, some for camaraderie and others for trophies. I really don't care what hunters are out there for. As long as you hunt legally, I say enjoy the season and take whatever legal deer you wish to.
To me, that's quality deer hunting.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 24, 2020 19:38:40 GMT -5
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Jan 24, 2020 19:42:23 GMT -5
How do you get more mature bucks when we have more hunters and less habitat? The professional wildlife biologists at the DNR do not manage the deer herd here to cater to trophy hunters, nor should they. We made our ONE concession with the idiotic one buck rule, and we won't make any more concessions. Period. Those darned scheming trophy hunters.. Sure glad I'm not one of those.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 24, 2020 19:49:55 GMT -5
How do you get more mature bucks when we have more hunters and less habitat? The professional wildlife biologists at the DNR do not manage the deer herd here to cater to trophy hunters, nor should they. We made our ONE concession with the idiotic one buck rule, and we won't make any more concessions. Period. Says the guy with His Trophy mount plastered on his profile pic..... you ever think to look in mirror before judging? Ever know a guy by the handle “480” ?
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 24, 2020 20:36:02 GMT -5
Do I need to remind you guys about the rules here? I’ve seen several posts starting to cross the line.
Clean up the personal stuff or we will do it for you and you won’t be happy about it..
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