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Post by 36fan on Jan 24, 2020 14:24:25 GMT -5
Bow season has roughly 52 days including the week between gun and muzzleloader. Gun season/muzzleloader have 32 days total. Drop 20 days off bow season to make it equal amount of time between each so there will be no more they have more/less time than us. Anything after muzzleloader season you can choose a weapon of your choice. Same as it is now. Reduction/doe bonus. Youth season could start a few weeks later in middle of October before bow. Just throwing out ideas. Don’t hate. That anything goes late season is only for counties with a 3+ bonus antlerless limit, and it is antlerless only. |
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Post by greghopper on Jan 24, 2020 14:25:15 GMT -5
First thought, if you live hunting Iowa so much and already do, please continue and stop trying to take opportunities away from single season hunters here. Second, there are a bunch of factors involved with creating a program to opening private ground to public hunting. Population centers and sprawl, parcel size, and viable ground to name a few. Third, I have never heard a gun only hunter say they want to shorten archery season unless it's in response to archery hunters wanting to shorten or move gun seasons. People also seem to forget every time this subject comes up is that Iowa has less than half the population of Indiana, living in a state that is 55% larger than Indiana (on a square mile basis). I hope Indiana does what Indiana has done for years. Leave the season dates, and length alone... Indiana is ranked 38th in land area and is the smallest state in the contiguous U.S. west of the Appalachian Mountains. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 14:25:40 GMT -5
Is Indiana having money problems at the DNR? I mean more than any other government agency routinely has? As far as I know, Indiana has zero issues with interest or participation with hunting, from small game, to turkeys, to white-tail deer. There is a very healthy hunter population, with the youth hunts and the addition of the use of center-fire, pistol cartridge rifles and crossbows, bringing in more hunters, and keeping other aging hunters who might have to drop out otherwise. I like what we`re doing here in Indiana today, and really don`t care what others states do. I lie our status, and really just want to keep the status quo. "The state's wildlife preservation programs rely on the sale of hunting licenses as a main source of funding, so Indiana's decline in hunting over the past decade is threatening conservation efforts along with communities and businesses that profit from the sport." www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/ct-ptb-indiana-hunting-decline-st-0121-story.htmlIf you want to cause the IDNR to lose even more monies, price the regular, everyday hunter out of hunting, by assisting with a surge of nonresident hunters, and mass loss of access to private land by helping leasing agents to move in, and, shortening hunting seasons, thereby further decreasing hunting opportunities. Wildlife belongs to the State of Indiana, i.e. The residents of the state, and those of us who hunt and fish pay the vast majority of the funds that operate the IDNR, both in license fees, and monies generated by the Pittman-Robertson act. Indiana resident hunters then, are the default Stewart's of the resource, and every reasonable effort must be made to accommodate the most hunting opportunities possible, that do it adversely affect the resource, for Indiana resident hunters. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 14:27:08 GMT -5
Bow season has roughly 52 days including the week between gun and muzzleloader. Gun season/muzzleloader have 32 days total. Drop 20 days off bow season to make it equal amount of time between each so there will be no more they have more/less time than us. Anything after muzzleloader season you can choose a weapon of your choice. Same as it is now. Reduction/doe bonus. Youth season could start a few weeks later in middle of October before bow. Just throwing out ideas. Don’t hate. That anything goes late season is only for counties with a 3+ bonus antlerless limit, and it is antlerless only. Is it 3, or is it 4? |
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Post by 36fan on Jan 24, 2020 14:39:07 GMT -5
That anything goes late season is only for counties with a 3+ bonus antlerless limit, and it is antlerless only. Is it 3, or is it 4? My mistake, it is 4+. I got confused this with the late quota change this year and still allowing a late antlerless firearm season in the original 4 quota counties. |
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Post by mattfinney on Jan 24, 2020 15:04:55 GMT -5
If you want to cause the IDNR to lose even more monies, price the regular, everyday hunter out of hunting, by assisting with a surge of nonresident hunters, and mass loss of access to private land by helping leasing agents to move in, and, shortening hunting seasons, thereby further decreasing hunting opportunities. Iowa has addressed this with their NR draw system. Again, who is going to lease a farm they can only hunt every 3-5 years? And, Iowa public land is freaking incredible. No need to even consider leasing if you live/hunt in Iowa.Wildlife belongs to the State of Indiana, i.e. The residents of the state, and those of us who hunt and fish pay the vast majority of the funds that operate the IDNR, both in license fees, and monies generated by the Pittman-Robertson act. Agree. Indiana resident hunters then, are the default Stewart's of the resource, and every reasonable effort must be made to accommodate the most hunting opportunities possible, that do it adversely affect the resource, for Indiana resident hunters. See now here's where we disagree. I think Indiana should look at Iowa because everyone knows they have the best deer hunting in the world. States who have the best deer hunting in the world won't have money problems, because even with declining hunter numbers nationwide, there are still people lined up at Iowa's door waiting to pay $600 to $800 for a license. |
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Post by greghopper on Jan 24, 2020 15:07:15 GMT -5
What’s your definition of “Best deer hunting”?
Do tell , Matt
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Post by mattfinney on Jan 24, 2020 15:09:39 GMT -5
What’s your definition of “Best deer hunting”? Do tell , Matt Tons of deer, balanced sex ratio in the herd, balanced age structure in the herd, big bucks everywhere, need I say more? The dead giveaway is the fact that people will wait 5 years to pay $800 just for the license.... |
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Post by greghopper on Jan 24, 2020 15:10:40 GMT -5
We got that in Indiana....
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Post by mattfinney on Jan 24, 2020 15:11:13 GMT -5
We got that in Indiana.... Not on public land..... Not everyone can afford thousands to spend on leases and outfitted hunts.... |
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Post by greghopper on Jan 24, 2020 15:12:42 GMT -5
We got that in Indiana.... Not on public land..... Not everyone can afford thousands to spend on leases and outfitted hunts.... O... so you’re wanting to hunt for FREE... got it now! Knew we get the truth soon! |
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Post by mattfinney on Jan 24, 2020 15:14:36 GMT -5
Not on public land..... Not everyone can afford thousands to spend on leases and outfitted hunts.... O... so you’re wanting to hunt for FREE... got it now! We could all have excellent quality hunting for free if we adopted Iowa's regs... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 15:14:37 GMT -5
If you want to cause the IDNR to lose even more monies, price the regular, everyday hunter out of hunting, by assisting with a surge of nonresident hunters, and mass loss of access to private land by helping leasing agents to move in, and, shortening hunting seasons, thereby further decreasing hunting opportunities. Iowa has addressed this with their NR draw system. Again, who is going to lease a farm they can only hunt every 3-5 years? And, Iowa public land is freaking incredible. No need to even consider leasing if you live/hunt in Iowa.Wildlife belongs to the State of Indiana, i.e. The residents of the state, and those of us who hunt and fish pay the vast majority of the funds that operate the IDNR, both in license fees, and monies generated by the Pittman-Robertson act. Agree. Indiana resident hunters then, are the default Stewart's of the resource, and every reasonable effort must be made to accommodate the most hunting opportunities possible, that do it adversely affect the resource, for Indiana resident hunters. See now here's where we disagree. I think Indiana should look at Iowa because everyone knows they have the best deer hunting in the world. States who have the best deer hunting in the world won't have money problems, because even with declining hunter numbers nationwide, there are still people lined up at Iowa's door waiting to pay $600 to $800 for a license.Clearly, the whole point here is what each of us consider to be the "best deer hunting". What I consider to be the best deer hunting is exactly what we have right now in Indiana. The season is long, the bag limits are liberal, and with the exception of adequate access to private property to hunt, I would suspect that hunter satisfaction is extremely high. So again, I would ask our DNR to stand pat, and hold to the statusquo, and those who hold an affinity for what other states are doing, can go to those other states to hunt. |
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Post by mattfinney on Jan 24, 2020 15:15:15 GMT -5
Not on public land..... Not everyone can afford thousands to spend on leases and outfitted hunts.... O... so you’re wanting to hunt for FREE... got it now! Knew we get the truth soon! cute, but I was never trying to hide anything from ya |
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Post by mattfinney on Jan 24, 2020 15:16:42 GMT -5
Clearly, the whole point here is what each of us consider to be the "best deer hunting". What I consider to be the best deer hunting is exactly what we have right now in Indiana. The season is long, the bag limits are liberal, and with the exception of adequate access to private property to hunt, I would suspect that hunter satisfaction is extremely high. So again, I would ask our DNR to stand pat, and hold to the statusquo, and those who hold an affinity for what other states are doing, can go to those other states to hunt. You've never hunted in Iowa. Try it once, you will see what is possible, and you will be blown away. |
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Post by greghopper on Jan 24, 2020 15:17:18 GMT -5
O... so you’re wanting to hunt for FREE... got it now! Knew we get the truth soon! cute, but I was never trying to hide anything from ya Then why wasn’t that posted to begin with... SMH |
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Post by mattfinney on Jan 24, 2020 15:20:28 GMT -5
cute, but I was never trying to hide anything from ya Then why wasn’t that posted to begin with... SMH Isn't everyone against leasing and outfitting (except the outfitters). I thought that was a given. Are you saying that you want to see more leasing and outfitting in Indiana? |
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Post by greghopper on Jan 24, 2020 15:20:46 GMT -5
I rather have Kentucky’s regs if were gonna change!!
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Post by mattfinney on Jan 24, 2020 15:22:27 GMT -5
I rather have Kentucky’s regs if were gonna change!! Cool, what are the key differences that you would like to see Indiana adopt? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 15:25:21 GMT -5
What’s your definition of “Best deer hunting”? Do tell , Matt Tons of deer, balanced sex ratio in the herd, balanced age structure in the herd, big bucks everywhere, need I say more? The dead giveaway is the fact that people will wait 5 years to pay $800 just for the license.... Indiana is already ranked in the top ten in number of both Pope and Young, and Boone and Crocket bucks taken annually. We typically kill over 100,000 deer annually, and some estimate that at least that many are poached each year as well, so we already do have "a ton of deer and big bucks everywhere". I don't see any advantage or attraction to having a flood of nonresident hunters flocking to the state. Indiana residents own, and pay for the deer and deer management here, and again, I believe hunter satisfaction is high, as things are right now, today. I will always ask that our DNR put Indiana resident hunters first, and not roll out programs that encourage a disproportionate number of nonresident hunters to flood the state. |
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