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Post by michaelc on Jan 24, 2020 9:47:20 GMT -5
I understand now. Sorry for my ignorance, and thanks for helping me understand more clearly. Like I said, I still have some learning to be done. I just want it to be done the right way lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 9:48:53 GMT -5
I agree that the IN season structure is just fine, EXCEPT for the youth season. What would it hurt to push it back 2-3 weeks so that it's not so darn hot? Oh, I know, the die-hard bow hunters are going to get their collective panties in a wad because they think it will screw up their hunting. In my opinion, that's plain selfish and not being a very good steward of the sport. I'd be fine with adding another youth weekend or 2 in there at the end of October or early November, before regular firearms, concurrent with archery season. But to just move the one single weekend would be a net loss in youth hunting opportunity. I'd hate to see that September weekend taken away, even if weather is not always ideal. Kids can hunt October-January already, just like everybody else. The thing that rubs me wrong is guys who think they have to have a special youth season to let their kids hunt, because they're afraid of losing an opportunity for themselves during the regular season. I like what Kansas does.. Kids get a week in early September, prior to any other deer seasons. Weather is hot, but bucks are still pretty active during daylight hours, and a week gives a lot of opportunity to fill a tag. As has been said, Indiana`s season is just fine, including the current youth hunts.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 9:55:10 GMT -5
I understand now. Sorry for my ignorance, and thanks for helping me understand more clearly. Like I said, I still have some learning to be done. I just want it to be done the right way lol. I don`t believe for a minute that you`re "ignorant". I think it`s just about being able to see things objectively, and that`s, hopefully, what the DNR does for us. We`re all affected to some extent or another by our wants in regards to our hunting. The wildlife professionals manage the herd based mostly on what`s best for the health of the herd, and try to balance hunter wants within that.
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Post by michaelc on Jan 24, 2020 10:07:14 GMT -5
I believe there needs to be a balance. Its the main key in life in general no matter the topic. As for IDNR or any DNR for that matter, they do the best they can to maintain that regardless of what you or I think.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 10:23:34 GMT -5
I believe there needs to be a balance. Its the main key in life in general no matter the topic. As for IDNR or any DNR for that matter, they do the best they can to maintain that regardless of what you or I think. Yup, mostly.
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Post by mattfinney on Jan 24, 2020 10:29:04 GMT -5
Hi all, new to the forum.
States with money problems should look to see what Iowa is doing. Non-residents are lined up at the door so they can pay $600 to $800 for a license to hunt there. If Iowa residents stop buying licenses, Iowa DNR can simply make a slight increase in NR quota to quickly fill any void.
If states want more money, they need to make the hunting better. Adding opportunity doesn't make the hunting better, it makes it worse.
My humble opinion...
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Post by greghopper on Jan 24, 2020 10:33:14 GMT -5
lol..... welcome to form Matt!
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Jan 24, 2020 10:42:33 GMT -5
I'd be fine with adding another youth weekend or 2 in there at the end of October or early November, before regular firearms, concurrent with archery season. But to just move the one single weekend would be a net loss in youth hunting opportunity. I'd hate to see that September weekend taken away, even if weather is not always ideal. Kids can hunt October-January already, just like everybody else. The thing that rubs me wrong is guys who think they have to have a special youth season to let their kids hunt, because they're afraid of losing an opportunity for themselves during the regular season. I like what Kansas does.. Kids get a week in early September, prior to any other deer seasons. Weather is hot, but bucks are still pretty active during daylight hours, and a week gives a lot of opportunity to fill a tag. As has been said, Indiana`s season is just fine, including the current youth hunts. I think things are fine now. Plenty of time for everybody to hunt deer in this state. I also think things would still be fine if you let kids shoot deer with a rifle the first weekend in November. None of it's worth getting worked up about IMO.
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Post by michaelc on Jan 24, 2020 11:02:38 GMT -5
Hi all, new to the forum. States with money problems should look to see what Iowa is doing. Non-residents are lined up at the door so they can pay $600 to $800 for a license to hunt there. If Iowa residents stop buying licenses, Iowa DNR can simply make a slight increase in NR quota to quickly fill any void. If states want more money, they need to make the hunting better. Adding opportunity doesn't make the hunting better, it makes it worse. My humble opinion... Welcome to the forum matt. It's not always this way lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 11:05:14 GMT -5
Hi all, new to the forum. States with money problems should look to see what Iowa is doing. Non-residents are lined up at the door so they can pay $600 to $800 for a license to hunt there. If Iowa residents stop buying licenses, Iowa DNR can simply make a slight increase in NR quota to quickly fill any void. If states want more money, they need to make the hunting better. Adding opportunity doesn't make the hunting better, it makes it worse. My humble opinion... Hi there mattfinney, and welcome to the Forum. Hope you like your time here, there's a lot of very good people here. As to your post, I think Indiana already has more than enough Hoosiers who live and breath deer hunting, and all due respect, we don`t need to increase non-resident hunting here. Trophy hunting very quickly causes multiple things to occur that just as quickly cut most of the average, blue-collar, working guys out of deer hunting. For instance, I have a very good friend who had hunted a particular area of west central Indiana since the early 1970`s until just recently. That is until, his own extended family pulled the rug out from under him, by leasing that ground to some leasing agents, and he no longer has access to that property. Funny how money will so quickly sever ties, even familial ties, and now this guy, who has literally ate, slept, and breathed deer hunting for all of his life, no longer has a place to hunt. So no, we don`t want to make Indiana even more attractive to those looking to make money from deer hunting, or, who look to come to Indiana to kill the deer that belong to the good people of this state. We have more than enough Hoosiers who hunt our deer, and some who would love to hunt if only they could find a place. All of this is just my humble opinion of course, but I would urge the IDNR to do everything they could to make hunting more accessible to Hoosiers, and make it less attractive to outsiders.
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Post by schall53 on Jan 24, 2020 11:14:36 GMT -5
Hi all, new to the forum. States with money problems should look to see what Iowa is doing. Non-residents are lined up at the door so they can pay $600 to $800 for a license to hunt there. If Iowa residents stop buying licenses, Iowa DNR can simply make a slight increase in NR quota to quickly fill any void. If states want more money, they need to make the hunting better. Adding opportunity doesn't make the hunting better, it makes it worse. My humble opinion... Hi there mattfinney, and welcome to the Forum. Hope you like your time here, there's a lot of very good people here. As to your post, I think Indiana already has more than enough Hoosiers who live and breath deer hunting, and all due respect, we don`t need to increase non-resident hunting here. Trophy hunting very quickly causes multiple things to occur that just as quickly cut most of the average, blue-collar, working guys out of deer hunting. For instance, I have a very good friend who had hunted a particular area of west central Indiana since the early 1970`s until just recently. That is until, his own extended family pulled the rug out from under him, by leasing that ground to some leasing agents, and he no longer has access to that property. Funny how money will so quickly sever ties, even familial ties, and now this guy, who has literally ate, slept, and breathed deer hunting for all of his life, no longer has a place to hunt. So no, we don`t want to make Indiana even more attractive to those looking to make money from deer hunting, or, who look to come to Indiana to kill the deer that belong to the good people of this state. We have more than enough Hoosiers who hunt our deer, and some who would love to hunt if only they could find a place. All of this is just my humble opinion of course, but I would urge the IDNR to do everything they could to make hunting more accessible to Hoosiers, and make it less attractive to outsiders. I am confused, how could his suggestion of raising the cost of nonresident tags put more hunters in the field?
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Jan 24, 2020 11:24:49 GMT -5
Bow season has roughly 52 days including the week between gun and muzzleloader. Gun season/muzzleloader have 32 days total. Drop 20 days off bow season to make it equal amount of time between each so there will be no more they have more/less time than us. Anything after muzzleloader season you can choose a weapon of your choice. Same as it is now. Reduction/doe bonus. Youth season could start a few weeks later in middle of October before bow.
Just throwing out ideas. Don’t hate.
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Post by mattfinney on Jan 24, 2020 11:25:07 GMT -5
Hi all, new to the forum. States with money problems should look to see what Iowa is doing. Non-residents are lined up at the door so they can pay $600 to $800 for a license to hunt there. If Iowa residents stop buying licenses, Iowa DNR can simply make a slight increase in NR quota to quickly fill any void. If states want more money, they need to make the hunting better. Adding opportunity doesn't make the hunting better, it makes it worse. My humble opinion... Hi there mattfinney, and welcome to the Forum. Hope you like your time here, there's a lot of very good people here. As to your post, I think Indiana already has more than enough Hoosiers who live and breath deer hunting, and all due respect, we don`t need to increase non-resident hunting here. Trophy hunting very quickly causes multiple things to occur that just as quickly cut most of the average, blue-collar, working guys out of deer hunting. For instance, I have a very good friend who had hunted a particular area of west central Indiana since the early 1970`s until just recently. That is until, his own extended family pulled the rug out from under him, by leasing that ground to some leasing agents, and he no longer has access to that property. Funny how money will so quickly sever ties, even familial ties, and now this guy, who has literally ate, slept, and breathed deer hunting for all of his life, no longer has a place to hunt. So no, we don`t want to make Indiana even more attractive to those looking to make money from deer hunting, or, who look to come to Indiana to kill the deer that belong to the good people of this state. We have more than enough Hoosiers who hunt our deer, and some who would love to hunt if only they could find a place. All of this is just my humble opinion of course, but I would urge the IDNR to do everything they could to make hunting more accessible to Hoosiers, and make it less attractive to outsiders. I totally understand your point. I lost access to private land we used to hunt back around 2009. Since then I have focused my efforts on learning how to hunt bucks on public land. In Iowa, NR leasing is curbed by the fact that NR's have to draw a limited tag. Not many NR's are willing to lease a piece of ground they can only hunt every 3-5 years. Also, the public land is so good in Iowa, there really is no need to even look for private ground to hunt. Anecdotal, but i have hunted for 25+ years in Indiana, and about 14 days total on Iowa public land to take my biggest buck (avatar pic) by a good margin. This year i saw 130+ inchers on 4 out of the 5 days I hunted there. If I could move my job to Iowa (or bring Iowa's regs to Indiana) I would do it in a heartbeat.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 24, 2020 11:37:58 GMT -5
Iowa is so great that they even allow party hunting and deer drives....SMH
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 11:40:54 GMT -5
Bow season has roughly 52 days including the week between gun and muzzleloader. Gun season/muzzleloader have 32 days total. Drop 20 days off bow season to make it equal amount of time between each so there will be no more they have more/less time than us. Anything after muzzleloader season you can choose a weapon of your choice. Same as it is now. Reduction/doe bonus. Youth season could start a few weeks later in middle of October before bow. Just throwing out ideas. Don’t hate. I just don`t see any reason to change things from as they are currently. We`re blessed in Indiana to have very long seasons, and have more than an abundance of hunting opportunity. We simply do NOT need any changes to the hunting seasons, with to lengthen or, shorten them. If we need any change at all, it has only to do with discovering some way to open up more private property to Hoosier residents. Not everyone has the health or physical stamina to hunt the rugged terrain of the public ground across the state, and could barely navigate that terrain just to get to a place to hunt, much less drag a deer out. The professionals at the IDNR are charged with keeping the deer herd, and, the habitat healthy. Because hunters are their very best, and first management tool, hunter access, and hunter satisfaction with IDNR regulations are balanced with what`s best for the overall health of the herd. I know it`s an unbelievably difficult task, and they, by and large, do a very fine job. I believe most Hoosier resident hunters want the most time available to hunt as possible, meaning the very long season we have, coupled with the opportunity to see and kill a reasonable number of deer. I also believe that the natural resources in the Hoosier state should be protected and maintained for the benefit and enjoyment of Hoosier residents first and foremost.
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Post by firstwd on Jan 24, 2020 11:47:11 GMT -5
Hi there mattfinney, and welcome to the Forum. Hope you like your time here, there's a lot of very good people here. As to your post, I think Indiana already has more than enough Hoosiers who live and breath deer hunting, and all due respect, we don`t need to increase non-resident hunting here. Trophy hunting very quickly causes multiple things to occur that just as quickly cut most of the average, blue-collar, working guys out of deer hunting. For instance, I have a very good friend who had hunted a particular area of west central Indiana since the early 1970`s until just recently. That is until, his own extended family pulled the rug out from under him, by leasing that ground to some leasing agents, and he no longer has access to that property. Funny how money will so quickly sever ties, even familial ties, and now this guy, who has literally ate, slept, and breathed deer hunting for all of his life, no longer has a place to hunt. So no, we don`t want to make Indiana even more attractive to those looking to make money from deer hunting, or, who look to come to Indiana to kill the deer that belong to the good people of this state. We have more than enough Hoosiers who hunt our deer, and some who would love to hunt if only they could find a place. All of this is just my humble opinion of course, but I would urge the IDNR to do everything they could to make hunting more accessible to Hoosiers, and make it less attractive to outsiders. I totally understand your point. I lost access to private land we used to hunt back around 2009. Since then I have focused my efforts on learning how to hunt bucks on public land. In Iowa, NR leasing is curbed by the fact that NR's have to draw a limited tag. Not many NR's are willing to lease a piece of ground they can only hunt every 3-5 years. Also, the public land is so good in Iowa, there really is no need to even look for private ground to hunt. Anecdotal, but i have hunted for 25+ years in Indiana, and about 14 days total on Iowa public land to take my biggest buck (avatar pic) by a good margin. This year i saw 130+ inchers on 4 out of the 5 days I hunted there. If I could move my job to Iowa (or bring Iowa's regs to Indiana) I would do it in a heartbeat. What percentage of Iowa is public land?
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Post by greghopper on Jan 24, 2020 11:48:58 GMT -5
That has deer hunt able features!^^^^
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Jan 24, 2020 11:55:12 GMT -5
Bow season has roughly 52 days including the week between gun and muzzleloader. Gun season/muzzleloader have 32 days total. Drop 20 days off bow season to make it equal amount of time between each so there will be no more they have more/less time than us. Anything after muzzleloader season you can choose a weapon of your choice. Same as it is now. Reduction/doe bonus. Youth season could start a few weeks later in middle of October before bow. Just throwing out ideas. Don’t hate. Gut it! Lol Highlighted text - Why can't it be a collective "us"? Anybody who can fire a rifle should be able to shoot a crossbow. The two weeks prior to our gun season are the very best IMO, especially on public land.
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Post by mattfinney on Jan 24, 2020 11:57:43 GMT -5
I totally understand your point. I lost access to private land we used to hunt back around 2009. Since then I have focused my efforts on learning how to hunt bucks on public land. In Iowa, NR leasing is curbed by the fact that NR's have to draw a limited tag. Not many NR's are willing to lease a piece of ground they can only hunt every 3-5 years. Also, the public land is so good in Iowa, there really is no need to even look for private ground to hunt. Anecdotal, but i have hunted for 25+ years in Indiana, and about 14 days total on Iowa public land to take my biggest buck (avatar pic) by a good margin. This year i saw 130+ inchers on 4 out of the 5 days I hunted there. If I could move my job to Iowa (or bring Iowa's regs to Indiana) I would do it in a heartbeat. What percentage of Iowa is public land? 2.8% according to www.summitpost.org/public-and-private-land-percentages-by-us-states/186111
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Jan 24, 2020 11:58:30 GMT -5
What percentage of Iowa is public land? The total % can be misleading, because Iowa has a private access program that opens up a lot of prime acreage in some areas.
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