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Post by omegahunter on Oct 7, 2019 12:28:59 GMT -5
Up first was my CVA 45/70 smokeless muzzleloader conversion: Got it shooting a couple months back with H4198, but decided to switch over to Vit N110 as I have a partial bottle that I need to use up. First shot was in the 2" bull, but low and left. 33 grains of the N110 gave me 2340 fps average with a .40 Hornady SST in Harvestor smooth blue sabots. Adjusted up and put the next two into a 1.25" group. H4198 shot tighter groups, so I will probably switch back next season. I need to take it to a buddy's place and hang up a steel plate and test the Nikon ballistic app accuracy at 200 yards.
Next up was my Encore 45/70 smokeless conversion that I had done a handful of years ago: I tried shooting 60 grains of H4198 and a 195 Barnes Expander in Harvestor smooth blue sabots; was giving me 2561 fps average. Groups were not all that tight so I went back to 58 grains of H4198 as that is what I had always shot before and my next two shots overlapped each other 3.5" above the bull. Guessing the velocity at 2450 fps as the bullet is back at dead zero at 200 yards.
Now if my daughter sticks it out through gun season without tagging, we each have a muzzleloader to use. The CVA kicks a lot less with the current load, but the Encore is MUCH lighter to carry.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 17:35:31 GMT -5
Up first was my CVA 45/70 smokeless muzzleloader conversion: Got it shooting a couple months back with H4198, but decided to switch over to Vit N110 as I have a partial bottle that I need to use up. First shot was in the 2" bull, but low and left. 33 grains of the N110 gave me 2340 fps average with a .40 Hornady SST in Harvestor smooth blue sabots. Adjusted up and put the next two into a 1.25" group. H4198 shot tighter groups, so I will probably switch back next season. I need to take it to a buddy's place and hang up a steel plate and test the Nikon ballistic app accuracy at 200 yards. Next up was my Encore 45/70 smokeless conversion that I had done a handful of years ago: I tried shooting 60 grains of H4198 and a 195 Barnes Expander in Harvestor smooth blue sabots; was giving me 2561 fps average. Groups were not all that tight so I went back to 58 grains of H4198 as that is what I had always shot before and my next two shots overlapped each other 3.5" above the bull. Guessing the velocity at 2450 fps as the bullet is back at dead zero at 200 yards. Now if my daughter sticks it out through gun season without tagging, we each have a muzzleloader to use. The CVA kicks a lot less with the current load, but the Encore is MUCH lighter to carry. I envy you. Although I do have, and I do hunt with an older Knight Disc Extreme, (from back when the Knight family owned the company), muzzleloaders are my nemesis. Knight said with the right powder/load/bullet combination, my Disc Extreme would easily shoot 2" groups at 200 yards. So, I bought loose black powder substitute, 777 if I recall, and measured out different powder charges, tried different bullet/sabot combinations, different shotgun primers, did everything they said to do, and my buddy, shooting a newer, more modern muzzleloader with 3 777 50-grain pellets tore the bull out of the target at 100 yards. So, I started shooting 3 50-grain 777 pellets in my Knight Disc Extreme, and saw a great jump in accuracy and consistency. I just can never figure muzzleloaders out...
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Post by omegahunter on Oct 8, 2019 9:53:44 GMT -5
Not much different from any other rifle. Sometimes finding a load that shoots good comes easy and sometimes not. Sometimes it takes lots of work to find a great load ... different powders, bullets, how it's loaded...
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Post by jajwrigh on Nov 8, 2019 22:28:31 GMT -5
Not much different from any other rifle. Sometimes finding a load that shoots good comes easy and sometimes not. Sometimes it takes lots of work to find a great load ... different powders, bullets, how it's loaded... That's all part of the fun!
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