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Post by subzero350 on Aug 9, 2019 2:09:22 GMT -5
So what do you think the report will say and do you think the general assembly will pass a new bill to continue permitting "HPR's" to be used for deer hunting going forward?
The only HPR related incident I've heard since HPR's were legalized for deer hunting on private land was that one instance a barn was hit by a rifle round - but that turned out to be from a shooting range (not hunting).
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Post by mgderf on Aug 9, 2019 6:28:48 GMT -5
I do think the powers that be will go ahead and make these trial rules permanent. The "blood in the streets" never materialized, and I've heard nothing but praise from hunters.
My hope is that they not only make the rules permanent, but I'd like to see them expand the calibers that would be legal. At very least I hope they leave the rules in place regarding private land. I don't hunt public land often.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Aug 9, 2019 6:35:56 GMT -5
Must be some kind of miracle.. HPRs for deer in Indiana, no increase in accidental shootings, and the deer herd hasn't collapsed!
Generally, I would like to see things simplified and do away with the different restrictions for public vs. private land. I do not believe that there is a valid safety argument. My only reservation is that the restrictions may slightly decrease the number of hunters on public land, especially those travelling from out of state to hunt. Probably not enough to notice though.
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Post by jjas on Aug 9, 2019 7:54:23 GMT -5
My opinion (FWIW) is that the rules will stay "as is"...
HPRs, pcrs, slug guns and muzzleloaders for private land. Pcrs, slug guns and muzzleloaders for public ground.
I guess by this time next year, we'll know for sure how it all plays out.
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Post by jbird on Aug 9, 2019 8:20:33 GMT -5
I think it will stay.
Will be interesting if they continue to limit them on public ground....
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Post by tynimiller on Aug 14, 2019 6:03:56 GMT -5
I do think the powers that be will go ahead and make these trial rules permanent. The "blood in the streets" never materialized, and I've heard nothing but praise from hunters. My hope is that they not only make the rules permanent, but I'd like to see them expand the calibers that would be legal. At very least I hope they leave the rules in place regarding private land. I don't hunt public land often. What caliber are you looking to be legal that isn't?
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Post by steiny on Aug 14, 2019 8:44:07 GMT -5
HPR's are here to stay. Guessing the air bows and the air rifles will be legalized soon also.
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 14, 2019 9:52:43 GMT -5
HPR's are here to stay. Guessing the air bows and the air rifles will be legalized soon also. Claymores are coming soon...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 10:00:41 GMT -5
HPR's are here to stay. Guessing the air bows and the air rifles will be legalized soon also. Claymores are coming soon... Now that would be a close encounter!
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 14, 2019 10:13:28 GMT -5
Claymores are coming soon... Now that would be a close encounter! It would cut down on trespassing too..
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Post by tynimiller on Aug 14, 2019 20:31:50 GMT -5
HPR's are here to stay. Guessing the air bows and the air rifles will be legalized soon also. Lot of folks will fight that till their blue in the face, because those are not subject to the PR funds all other firearms and bows and ammunition is. Until they help fund that and are treated the same they don't even deserve the discussion.
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Post by greghopper on Aug 14, 2019 20:35:59 GMT -5
Yep..^^^^
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Post by mgderf on Aug 14, 2019 20:55:23 GMT -5
I do think the powers that be will go ahead and make these trial rules permanent. The "blood in the streets" never materialized, and I've heard nothing but praise from hunters. My hope is that they not only make the rules permanent, but I'd like to see them expand the calibers that would be legal. At very least I hope they leave the rules in place regarding private land. I don't hunt public land often. What caliber are you looking to be legal that isn't? To be Frank, I'd have to change my name! LOL Seriously, I don't know. I'm sure I could come up with something if I tried hard enough.
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Post by mgderf on Aug 14, 2019 20:57:43 GMT -5
HPR's are here to stay. Guessing the air bows and the air rifles will be legalized soon also. Claymores are coming soon... Uh, NO! I have had my close encounter with a Claymore. That was under STRICT supervision, and I don't feel the need to repeat that experience. High-order explosives are best left to those who know what the hell they are doing.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Aug 15, 2019 6:14:40 GMT -5
.223 is legal in some states, and I believe perfectly capable with the proper bullet and placement. I think our range of calibers is fine as-is though, lots of low-recoil options now (for private land at least).
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Post by omegahunter on Aug 15, 2019 7:05:08 GMT -5
.223 is legal in some states, and I believe perfectly capable with the proper bullet and placement. I think our range of calibers is fine as-is though, lots of low-recoil options now (for private land at least). .223 with proper bullets like you said, would sure beat a .410 slug!
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Post by omegahunter on Aug 15, 2019 7:07:50 GMT -5
Must be some kind of miracle.. HPRs for deer in Indiana, no increase in accidental shootings, and the deer herd hasn't collapsed! Generally, I would like to see things simplified and do away with the different restrictions for public vs. private land. I do not believe that there is a valid safety argument. My only reservation is that the restrictions may slightly decrease the number of hunters on public land, especially those travelling from out of state to hunt. Probably not enough to notice though. My feeling is that the "no HPR on public land" was never really as much about safety as it was about them being worried about over-harvest on DNR owned and regulated public properties.
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Post by jjas on Aug 15, 2019 7:58:24 GMT -5
lawrencecountyhunter
.357, .44 special, .44 mag, and .350 legend would qualify as a low recoil load for both private and public land, IMO.
For strictly private land, .243, .30-30, and 6.5 creedmoor offer good choices with (what many consider) low recoil.
Either way, I agree we have plenty of choices.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Aug 15, 2019 8:34:27 GMT -5
lawrencecountyhunter .357, .44 special, .44 mag, and .350 legend would qualify as a low recoil load for both private and public land, IMO. For strictly private land, .243, .30-30, and 6.5 creedmoor offer good choices with (what many consider) low recoil. Either way, I agree we have plenty of choices. I meant low-recoil HPRs, but you're right, there are a couple low-recoil PCRs out there for public land.
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Post by esshup on Aug 15, 2019 8:58:18 GMT -5
I use a .243 with an 85g Barnes that is clipping along at a pretty good rate but since the rifle is right around 6# including scope, sling and full magazine, the recoil seems more than a 10#-11# .308.
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