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Post by esshup on Jul 15, 2019 9:04:08 GMT -5
Why do the politicians and all the media outlets refer to the illegal immigrant issue, detentions, raids, etc. as "immigrant" and NOT "illegal immigrant"? Why do they all omit the "illegal" part? The different government agencies don't have any problem with legal immigrants, at least not that I know of. The legal ones are paying taxes, etc.
As for ICE doing raids and round-ups, that's been going on for years and years. Groups of illegal immigrants (day laborers) hanging around certain places in So. Cal. would scatter like a herd of rabbits if anyone saw an INS vehicle. Why is it all of a sudden "news" today?
The round up this past weekend was to grab people who were supposed to be sent out of the country already, that slipped thru the cracks. So, technically they are criminals now, correct? If that's the case, I'd LOVE to see all the liberals that are shielding/harboring/helping them avoid ICE arrested on "aiding and abetting a criminal" charges. Why are they not?
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Post by jjas on Jul 15, 2019 9:54:14 GMT -5
esshup
ALL politicians lack the will to push that. It's never going to happen and anyone who says they are going to push for it, are just giving their constituents lip service.
Lets be frank...
Liberals gain voters from the legal children born in this country whose parents are illegally here and people (of all political persuasions) hire illegals to work, rent/sell them places to live, sell them cars, etc, etc...
In other words...
Many of us like to complain about illegals, but don't seem to mind making money off of them...
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Post by jbird on Jul 15, 2019 12:27:08 GMT -5
Just more feeding the bears....the media just supports that agenda by presenting the bears as the cute, cuddly creatures with their little cubs just trying to get by. They choose to ignore (and not show - because they want to control the message and thus influence what you think) what happens when things don't go well and that same bear does what it has to in order to survive! You know...the not so cute part of being a bear!
There is only so much wealth in the world.....and the politicians and the rich libs want us (the working middle class) to give up and support these bears! The libs....in the end, want to end the middle class. They already control the media and the message being spread. They also wish to disarm us so we can't physically fight back as well. They want us all to be bears.....they just want us to be bears without teeth!
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Post by beermaker on Jul 15, 2019 15:55:42 GMT -5
I am all for good people entering this country and going through the proper channels to gain citizenship, work visas, etc. The notion that we should have open borders and offer social services to non-citizens is ridiculous. But, as others have stated, the Democrats need the votes.
I manage residential construction and I can tell you with 100% certainty that without Hispanics construction in this part of the state and the Louisville area would come to an abrupt halt. My company does not directly employ any Hispanics, but almost all of our subcontractors do. I have built good relationships with many of them over the years. Some are legal, some not. I always ask if they are trying to gain citizenship and they ALL have the same answer. Yes, but the process is long, inefficient, confusing, etc. I helped one study for the Citizenship test several years ago. I had graduated from IU maybe three years before and absolutely could not have passed the test without studying myself.
In my opinion, the immigration system is just as screwed up as the adoption process.
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Post by firstwd on Jul 15, 2019 16:07:21 GMT -5
I am all for good people entering this country and going through the proper channels to gain citizenship, work visas, etc. The notion that we should have open borders and offer social services to non-citizens is ridiculous. But, as others have stated, the Democrats need the votes. I manage residential construction and I can tell you with 100% certainty that without Hispanics construction in this part of the state and the Louisville area would come to an abrupt halt. My company does not directly employ any Hispanics, but almost all of our subcontractors do. I have built good relationships with many of them over the years. Some are legal, some not. I always ask if they are trying to gain citizenship and they ALL have the same answer. Yes, but the process is long, inefficient, confusing, etc. I helped one study for the Citizenship test several years ago. I had graduated from IU maybe three years before and absolutely could not have passed the test without studying myself. In my opinion, the immigration system is just as screwed up as the adoption process. And both wings of the vulture have had full control and entirely too much time to fix the system. Neither want it fixed. If they change power positions they change their social position on the topic. Back and forth using this issue, as well as others, to fire up their supporters so they can keep their jobs. Personally, I want the entire body of Congress locked up under some slightly questionable prison conditions until they come up with legislation that cleans up the mess and makes anyone wanting to come here just reason to run to the proper gate. Skip all the crap, get rid of the insane fees, issue Federal identifications, and send them on their way with wishes of prosperity and good fortune. |
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Post by nvg on Sept 29, 2019 16:39:05 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2019 16:48:24 GMT -5
Why do the politicians and all the media outlets refer to the illegal immigrant issue, detentions, raids, etc. as "immigrant" and NOT "illegal immigrant"? Why do they all omit the "illegal" part? The different government agencies don't have any problem with legal immigrants, at least not that I know of. The legal ones are paying taxes, etc. As for ICE doing raids and round-ups, that's been going on for years and years. Groups of illegal immigrants (day laborers) hanging around certain places in So. Cal. would scatter like a herd of rabbits if anyone saw an INS vehicle. Why is it all of a sudden "news" today? The round up this past weekend was to grab people who were supposed to be sent out of the country already, that slipped thru the cracks. So, technically they are criminals now, correct? If that's the case, I'd LOVE to see all the liberals that are shielding/harboring/helping them avoid ICE arrested on "aiding and abetting a criminal" charges. Why are they not? For starters, IMHO, they ought not be called immigrants, even if used with the qualifier "illegal", because they`re not immigrants of any kind. They are illegal aliens. Period. But to answer your point about why the media refers to these policing activities in the way they do, it`s because addressing them as what they are, police activities, wouldn`t fit into their agenda. And their agenda is to obstruct, harass, threaten, and frustrate this President by any means possible, even to the detriment of the United States. They`ve never gotten over the fact that Trump won the election, and so, they are obsessed with anything they can do to tarnish his reputation, legacy, and effectiveness. |
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