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Post by parrothead on Feb 8, 2019 14:04:15 GMT -5
Just saw they had a recall on the new Ranger.
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Post by omegahunter on Feb 8, 2019 14:10:21 GMT -5
Bad thing I am hearing about the aluminum is keeping paint on the body panels. I have a friend with a body shop and he said that he is starting to see them come in with oxidation/corrosion starting on the aluminum and causing the paint to bubble off. He said no amount of prep keeps that oxidation from coming back in short order. He recommends brand new body panels if they want it to look good and keep it that way for a while longer. Really? I once owned (wish I still had it) a 1965 Land Rover 88. It was all aluminum body. Never a problem with the paint. He has done bodywork to two of my vehicles and I would trust him to work on anything! Just going by what he told me when I showed him the paint bubbling on the underside of my Mustang hood. Turns out the hood is a steel shell laminated to an aluminum lower panel to keep weight down. He said not to worry about it since it is not rust and won't migrate to the steel and that I could sand it and shoot it myself if I wanted paint on it or he could order a new hood. Umm, no thanks!!! |
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Post by Sasquatch on Feb 8, 2019 19:36:47 GMT -5
I'll let the car gurus advise you on what to buy... but I have to ask how did you manage to kill a Cherokee?  I finally wrecked mine after 15 years and 230,000. Did very little to it in that time. Dang I miss that thing. Good luck on your search! |
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Post by nfalls116 on Feb 8, 2019 19:59:23 GMT -5
When you go to sell it let me know I may be interested in it.
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Post by span870 on Feb 8, 2019 22:49:17 GMT -5
Get the rabbit hunter option.... I somehow feel like this is geared towards me somehow. 😉 |
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Post by duff on Feb 9, 2019 9:18:02 GMT -5
I know a guy that can get you a friends and family discount on a good GM product!
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Post by esshup on Feb 9, 2019 14:51:09 GMT -5
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Post by bullseye69 on Feb 13, 2019 18:53:54 GMT -5
I have a Ford sport trac with 260,000 on it now and love the smaller size. Dont need a full size truck as the wifey has one. But want one with a longer bed than the sport trac has. Going today to test drive a used Nissan Frontier promax-4. Well we went and got the 2013 Frontier and drove it 960 miles, straight from the dealer, last weekend thru all kinds of winter conditions on up to Chetek WI and back. Its the pro-4 Frontier loaded with everything but the kitchen sink. Drove thru a field with 2 foot plus deep snow and worked very well. The bed is about 10 inches longer than the sport trac. Very happy with it. |
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Post by bullseye69 on Feb 13, 2019 19:00:27 GMT -5
I have a Ford sport trac with 260,000 on it now and love the smaller size. Dont need a full size truck as the wifey has one. But want one with a longer bed than the sport trac has. Going today to test drive a used Nissan Frontier promax-4. I really like my Sport Trac, but had I known that I could have gotten the same fuel mileage with a full size, I would have bought the full size. I have never gotten above 18 mpg with my Sport Trac. Going out west with a full load in the truck I can get almost 400 miles on a tank of gas in mine. |
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Post by 36fan on Feb 15, 2019 11:08:47 GMT -5
Your Cherokee was designed when Jeep was still owned by American Motors. The days of over engineering Cherokees are gone!
Another vote for a new Ranger! They are bigger than they used to be, but still not full size. I would probably wait until the next model, just to make sure the bugs are worked out.
I've got a 2000 F150, 5.4 V8. It's been on and off my, or my wife's, daily driver since I bought it new in 2000. 22x,xxx miles on it now, and it is my daily driver again. It had a few issues of wearable items all at once around 180,000 (ball joints, fuel pump, wheel bearings, shocks, etc.). It has brought all three of my babies home from the hospital, and all of the deer I've killed from the field. My daughter turns 16 on Sunday, it will become her driver in a few months.
When the fuel pump went out, it left me in a predicament, as my beater car (2002 Taurus) was having some issues at the same time. My Dad retired from Ford, so I used his retiree's discount and bought a new "family car" - 2016 F150, but it has the 3.5L turbo V6 (I do a fair amount of towing). I like the aluminum body - it weighs about 1,000 lbs less than my 2000), and that motor has some giddy-up!. My wife hit our tandem trailer that was parked on the side of our driveway one night. It knocked the trailer back about two feet and pancaked the fender to the tire of the trailer. I had to take the tire off the trailer, get the big sledge hammer out, and use two handed full body swings to knock the fender back into place. She hit it hard! and she got it right on the corner of the wheel well of the trailer. All it did to the truck was put a small dent ~2inx2in in the back door. I was impressed. It would've ripped a hole in a regular steel body.
As for aluminum oxidizing, my 2000 f150 has an aluminum hood. I believe the tailgates of the F150s switched to aluminum in the early to mid 2000s. The Expeditions and Explorers have had aluminum rear tailgate doors for years as well. Occasionally you will see one that has corroded, but I see a lot more that haven't.
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Post by bullseye69 on Feb 19, 2019 18:42:57 GMT -5
Did you look at any trucks Russ?
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Post by ms660 on Feb 19, 2019 19:30:00 GMT -5
I run 5 Chevy trucks in my business and over the past 25 years we have had only 1 truck not hit 500,000 miles and it was 1998 that only hit 325,000 and had to put a jasper motor in it . We sell trucks out right once they go over 500,000 miles and buy new , this usually is done in 5-7 years for each truck . Everyone wants our fleet business and I’m all ears if they can show me a similar track record and nobody can . I am not going to bash anyone’s brand or favorite vehicle, just sharing my experiences Haven't read the entire thread, but are you running the Duramax motors or gas engines? We have had good luck with the Duramax engines and Allison transmissions. |
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Post by nfalls116 on Feb 19, 2019 19:57:51 GMT -5
Thinking I may have used up most of the good part of my trusty 2000 Cherokee, and finding it harder to do my own repairs in my golden years, I have been considering buying a late model or possibly new truck. I like the looks and thoughts of the compact 4x4 trucks. Drove a number of the full-size varieties while I was driving for the local Chrysler dealership, and was very impressed with their ride and comfort, but they still felt like I was maneuvering a school bus in city traffic and in parking lots. I drove full size vans as my personal vehicles for several years, but always preferred the smaller rigs. I had an S10 Chevy I really liked, a Ford Ranger I liked while it ran, and my little Cherokee that I pretty much loved, and that still feels like the most comfortable size to me. Been 'net shopping for the last few months, but haven't found any local examples of the two that I see as probably the front-runners so haven't been behind the wheel of the Toyota Tacoma or Nissan Frontier. Started out thinking I'd want the extended cab with the folding jump seats, but when I was trying to envision the various configurations in my daily usage, I realized that the 4-door version would probably be much better for going to the grocery store, which is about half my driving now. I could open the back door and easily get the cart very close for transferring stuff onto the back floor while angle parked, and the extended cab would require opening the front door to get the back door open, then bringing the cart forward between the vehicles or squeezing between them with each armload to put them inside. Seemed like it would be much more awkward. And the alternative would be to either add a bed cover and a cargo net or a camper top that I really wouldn't have any use for any more. I think I may have had back seat passengers in the Cherokee three or four times in the ten years I've owned it, and I can't imagine needing a back seat in the next truck, either, but I think the covered and lockable cargo space would be more useful than an extra foot of open bed out back. Even the tiny bed on the 4-doors is plenty for anything I need, and the trailer hitch and my little utility trailer would take care of anything that I couldn't carry in it. Anyway, just wondering if you have any tips or outlooks on the choices, or any others that you think I should be considering. Did you make a decision? |
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Post by iceman10 on Feb 19, 2019 21:54:44 GMT -5
I run 5 Chevy trucks in my business and over the past 25 years we have had only 1 truck not hit 500,000 miles and it was 1998 that only hit 325,000 and had to put a jasper motor in it . We sell trucks out right once they go over 500,000 miles and buy new , this usually is done in 5-7 years for each truck . Everyone wants our fleet business and I’m all ears if they can show me a similar track record and nobody can . I am not going to bash anyone’s brand or favorite vehicle, just sharing my experiences Haven't read the entire thread, but are you running the Duramax motors or gas engines? We have had good luck with the Duramax engines and Allison transmissions. We have ran 2 Duramax and the rest gas , all 3/4 ton . The 1998 was gas . |
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Post by Russ Koon on Feb 20, 2019 2:03:00 GMT -5
No decision yet, nfalls. Still wavering between the Nissan pu and the Subie. Checking out some other possibilities among the competitors in both those general categories, but it will probably be one or the other. Taking one more look at Rav 4 right now. And checking out some of the other details I had never dealt with before like whether a lease would now be something that would be in my favor. Checked that out once years ago and it didn't benefit me in my situation then, driving 30K+ yr. Also doing the final analysis on buying new versus used. Probably e o drive one or two of the candidates this week or next. That used to be something I did for fun every time I could make an excuse to, but it's just a chore to do to avoid a mistake now.
Lot easier to do the research online now and answer lots of questions, but it still has to feel right.
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Post by nfalls116 on Feb 20, 2019 4:50:00 GMT -5
No decision yet, nfalls. Still wavering between the Nissan pu and the Subie. Checking out some other possibilities among the competitors in both those general categories, but it will probably be one or the other. Taking one more look at Rav 4 right now. And checking out some of the other details I had never dealt with before like whether a lease would now be something that would be in my favor. Checked that out once years ago and it didn't benefit me in my situation then, driving 30K+ yr. Also doing the final analysis on buying new versus used. Probably e o drive one or two of the candidates this week or next. That used to be something I did for fun every time I could make an excuse to, but it's just a chore to do to avoid a mistake now. Lot easier to do the research online now and answer lots of questions, but it still has to feel right. Yeah doesn’t matter how much you like the looks color or paperwork if it’s uncomfortable it’s uncomfortable. Good luck |
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I finally wrecked mine after 15 years and 230,000. Did very little to it in that time. Dang I miss that thing.
