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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 18, 2018 11:15:53 GMT -5
At the request of our County CO I put one in the Hoosier Record Book back in 1979. The buck is a good ten pointer that scored 154 net. Since then I've killed a dozen or so deer that would go in one record book or another, but I have no interest in doing that. I once asked the president of an organization that keeps such records that if the entry is to honor the deer why list the hunters name and he said," Why we wouldn't be able to sell any record books then". BTW - At that time the 154" ten pointer was in the top 100 registered in the state.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 18, 2018 11:23:11 GMT -5
Wasn't that back when a CO or DNR member done the measureing and scoreing?
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Post by jimstc on Dec 18, 2018 11:53:10 GMT -5
I don't even know how to score and probably never will. It just isn't important to me. Field dressed weight and net meat weight are important. My goal is to put meat in the freezer and enjoy the time outdoors. That pretty much sums me up
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 18, 2018 12:57:12 GMT -5
Wasn't that back when a CO or DNR member done the measureing and scoreing? Yes.... The CO talked me into coming out to the Evansville Gun Club to get the rack measured.. .
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Post by daneowner on Dec 18, 2018 13:35:30 GMT -5
At the request of our County CO I put one in the Hoosier Record Book back in 1979. The buck is a good ten pointer that scored 154 net. Since then I've killed a dozen or so deer that would go in one record book or another, but I have no interest in doing that. I once asked the president of an organization that keeps such records that if the entry is to honor the deer why list the hunters name and he said," Why we wouldn't be able to sell any record books then". During gun season back in 1992 I found a large buck on my property that had been dead a few days. Because of the rack size I called DNR. Had an conservation officer call back and was told not to move it till he got here. After a lot of questions and answers I was allowed to keep the rack. One of the CO's took it to the Indy deer show to get it scored. He said it was the 2nd. largest rack at the show that year. Was told it would not be allowed in the book "because it was found" not hunter killed. I asked the same question, which does the book honor, the hunter or the deer ? Guess it wasn't the deer. It scored 198 1/8 NT
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 18, 2018 13:40:46 GMT -5
Although I hunt mature deer. I have not entered a buck in any record book since 1991. Score them myself so I know where they rank. Have 8 that would make P and Y and 2 or 3 Hoosier Big Buck but no interest. My biggest taken in 2016 I took and had scored at KY deer show in Louisville. Grossed 164 and netted right at 157. Scorer wanted me to enter in HRB but I respectfully declined. The days of paying to read my name in a book have long past.... LOL I hunt for me and no one else.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 18, 2018 13:53:09 GMT -5
At the request of our County CO I put one in the Hoosier Record Book back in 1979. The buck is a good ten pointer that scored 154 net. Since then I've killed a dozen or so deer that would go in one record book or another, but I have no interest in doing that. I once asked the president of an organization that keeps such records that if the entry is to honor the deer why list the hunters name and he said," Why we wouldn't be able to sell any record books then". During gun season back in 1992 I found a large buck on my property that had been dead a few days. Because of the rack size I called DNR. Had an conservation officer call back and was told not to move it till he got here. After a lot of questions and answers I was allowed to keep the rack. One of the CO's took it to the Indy deer show to get it scored. He said it was the 2nd. largest rack at the show that year. Was told it would not be allowed in the book "because it was found" not hunter killed. I asked the same question, which does the book honor, the hunter or the deer ? Guess it wasn't the deer. It scored 198 1/8 NT Not sure who gave you that miss information but found or picked up complete racks are allowed in the book! They have a section just for that.
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Post by daneowner on Dec 18, 2018 14:00:45 GMT -5
Thanks for the replay, the CO was the one that told me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2018 14:07:52 GMT -5
Thanks for the replay, the CO was the one that told me. Maybe that was correct back in 92.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 18, 2018 14:30:36 GMT -5
Thanks for the replay, the CO was the one that told me. Maybe that was correct back in 92. That maybe with HRB ... I just didn't want someone reading to think it's not allowed now. Wasn't the "Hole in Horn" deer found back in the day?
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Post by rjb on Dec 18, 2018 14:54:33 GMT -5
I’m not trying to stir the pot here, but does anyone else find it ironic that there is a contest on here for “bragging rights” on how many deer you killed, but it’s not ok to hunt for large racks? And that contest includes antler size? I’m just trying to figure out why it’s more noble to brag about the amount of young bucks and does you killed, than the large racked five year old buck you built up a strategy for all year and waited for the perfect timing and pulled it off? (I don’t have a problem with either.) For the record, I did neither this year. My personal take is as long as it’s legal and it satisfies your hunting needs, do as you please. I personally only try to hunt mature bucks for the challenge, not necessarily the rack size. An undeniable fact is that a 4 yr old plus buck is a different animal to hunt than a young buck that comes in to some tinks. Having said that, if a hunter wants to fill his/her freezer, go for it.
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Post by swilk on Dec 18, 2018 15:16:52 GMT -5
Don't see where any one here has said that....the article being discussed had a "woman" who was upset because the buck her son killed wasn't as big as grandpa had said it was and he was going to be devastated.
That is silly no matter how you look at it.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Dec 18, 2018 15:27:57 GMT -5
I’m not trying to stir the pot here, but does anyone else find it ironic that there is a contest on here for “bragging rights” on how many deer you killed, but it’s not ok to hunt for large racks? And that contest includes antler size? I’m just trying to figure out why it’s more noble to brag about the amount of young bucks and does you killed, than the large racked five year old buck you built up a strategy for all year and waited for the perfect timing and pulled it off? (I don’t have a problem with either.) For the record, I did neither this year. My personal take is as long as it’s legal and it satisfies your hunting needs, do as you please. I personally only try to hunt mature bucks for the challenge, not necessarily the rack size. An undeniable fact is that a 4 yr old plus buck is a different animal to hunt than a young buck that comes in to some tinks. Having said that, if a hunter wants to fill his/her freezer, go for it. IMO, it only becomes "not OK" when the only thing that matters is inches or number of deer bagged, and the love for the pursuit, nature, tradition, sportsmanship, etc. go out the window.
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Post by firstwd on Dec 18, 2018 15:44:45 GMT -5
I’m not trying to stir the pot here, but does anyone else find it ironic that there is a contest on here for “bragging rights” on how many deer you killed, but it’s not ok to hunt for large racks? And that contest includes antler size? I’m just trying to figure out why it’s more noble to brag about the amount of young bucks and does you killed, than the large racked five year old buck you built up a strategy for all year and waited for the perfect timing and pulled it off? (I don’t have a problem with either.) For the record, I did neither this year. My personal take is as long as it’s legal and it satisfies your hunting needs, do as you please. I personally only try to hunt mature bucks for the challenge, not necessarily the rack size. An undeniable fact is that a 4 yr old plus buck is a different animal to hunt than a young buck that comes in to some tinks. Having said that, if a hunter wants to fill his/her freezer, go for it. I agree with Swilk. I think you may be reading too much into the discussion. I feel the group on this site is far more accepting of any hunter doing things their way as long as that way is legal. We have our discussions about our opinions but it seems beyond illegal the only thing we really push back against is others forcing their way on everybody else.
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Post by hornzilla on Dec 18, 2018 15:51:29 GMT -5
If your happy with the buck you harvest then no one else should have anything to say about it. Plain and simple. I personally think inches on a deer is the same with pounds on a bear. When I was bear hunting the place I would stay refused to weigh a bear. Ifor you wanted to bring a scale and do it so be. So one day I asked why he refused to weigh bears. And his answer was. In the last 28 years of guiding hunts. Every one of his hunters was completely happy with there 250 pound bear, then after all the pictures was taken and they were hung on a scale. The majority of them was disappointed in there 125 to 150 pound bear.
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Post by rjb on Dec 18, 2018 15:56:47 GMT -5
I completely agree with both of those statements. It’s just that the title of the article was about counting inches killing hunting. The one thing the article left out is the 14 year olds opinion. Grandma may not know a thing about hunting and the kid if he knows anything, may be proud no matter what. Besides, everyone knows it’s crappy parenting and video games that are killing hunting anyway!
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Post by (Not Ronald) Reagan on Dec 18, 2018 17:46:09 GMT -5
I will say my dad is like this to a degree, and has a lot of friends like it. But they don’t necessarily care about inches but rather the characteristics of the buck. But having said that, my dad couldn’t care less what bucks I take on our property. Whatever makes you happy and puts meat on the table, go for it.
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Post by (Not Ronald) Reagan on Dec 18, 2018 17:46:56 GMT -5
I completely agree with both of those statements. It’s just that the title of the article was about counting inches killing hunting. The one thing the article left out is the 14 year olds opinion. Grandma may not know a thing about hunting and the kid if he knows anything, may be proud no matter what. Besides, everyone knows it’s crappy parenting and video games that are killing hunting anyway! Disagree, the original Cabelas dangerous hunts got me hooked at a 5 year old 😂
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Post by alduflux on Dec 18, 2018 19:10:46 GMT -5
Which would you rather catch? One ten pound bass or 10 two pound bass?
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Post by firstwd on Dec 18, 2018 20:30:03 GMT -5
Which would you rather catch? One ten pound bass or 10 two pound bass? I generally don't fish where 10 pound bass live, so um thrilled with ten 1 pound bass. :-) As for deer, over the years on the farm I've seen a few bucks pushing B&C sized and several easily making HRB, but the overwhelming majority of the bucks are closer to the one pound bass even as 3 year olds.
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