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Post by jdebose on Dec 4, 2018 17:03:36 GMT -5
Yep, I've got believe that there are less deer hunters today than in 2012..……Deer License* .....Privileges
2012 - 199,542 - 316,858
2013 - 190,571 - 314,877
2014 - 183,529 - 313,235
2015 - 178,341 - 315,389
2016 - 169,801 - 314,283
2017 - 163,615 - 305,591
* Does not include youth licenses Maybe so. Has the online check in had any Impact on the overall number of privalages you think? When did that go in to effect? Even way back before then hunters used to have to notch out the tag immediately upon the kill I remember correctly. |
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Post by swilk on Dec 4, 2018 17:22:43 GMT -5
When did the bundle come available?
I think there may have been enough changes to license structure to account for the drop while the number of actual hunters has remained relatively static.
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Post by jdebose on Dec 4, 2018 17:26:06 GMT -5
When did the bundle come available? Is that considered one "license" and multiple "opportunities"? I thought about that to. Apparently it already counts as 3, not one. |
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Post by swilk on Dec 4, 2018 17:26:56 GMT -5
When did the bundle come available? Is that considered one "license" and multiple "opportunities"? I thought about that to. Apparently it already counts as 3, not one. Yeah...I read a little more immediately after posting and changed my post in the time you were quoting me. |
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 4, 2018 19:37:02 GMT -5
I thought about that to. Apparently it already counts as 3, not one. Yeah...I read a little more immediately after posting and changed my post in the time you were quoting me. See page 28.. www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/files/fw-DeerSummaryReport_2017.pdfI multiplied the license number bundle by three and came up with 203,265. I then added all the single licenses to that figure and came up with 299,125. Their total privileges number "Includes additional privileges from non resident bundle" ** and does not include the youth license as the youth license is for more than just deer hunting. I can see where the additional non resident bundle could boost the total from 299,125 to their total number of privileges. My conclusion from this is that there are less than 163,615 deer hunters as some surely bought more than one single license such archery and general firearm or MZ or crossbow, etc.. I did not run the numbers on the their years but I take it for granted that their method is the same. So it appears to me that we are losing deer hunters. My area - turning back the clock it seemed like half of Evansville hunted around me on opening day on about 1,500 acres. Now the same ground is controlled by a dozen or so deer hunters. What used to sound like the beginning of World War 3 is now just sporadic gunfire. |
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Post by swilk on Dec 4, 2018 19:53:48 GMT -5
Lifetime and landowner .... Not sure how many that accounts for but I know of at least 7 deer that were killed this year without purchasing a license.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 4, 2018 19:56:10 GMT -5
Lifetime and landowner .... Not sure how many that accounts for but I know of at least 7 deer that were killed this year without purchasing a license. True... no way of knowing for sure how many those are. Maybe the survey will give an estimate? |
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 4, 2018 20:01:27 GMT -5
Table 14 gives a number of how many deer were killed by landowners and LTL holders , but not how many deer hunters there were. One thing for sure the LTL holders numbers are going down by old guys quitting and dying off. There might be more folks buying hunting land and hunting but I doubt they would make up the big (33,000) drop off on state hunters.
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Post by swilk on Dec 4, 2018 20:02:06 GMT -5
I'm sure it's a combination of many things...but the steep decline in just a short few years makes it hard for me to believe that less hunters make up the bulk.
But...I don't hear many shots anymore. When I was younger there were a lot more. Iron sights and mostly smooth bores...
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 4, 2018 20:03:57 GMT -5
We posted at the same time..
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 4, 2018 22:21:31 GMT -5
Looks like we broke 100,000 on December 10th last year. Let's see what the muzzy crowd does this weekend.
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Post by (Not Ronald) Reagan on Dec 6, 2018 12:20:32 GMT -5
To be honest we haven't had any decent bucks on our cameras since early September... However we found out the other day the bucks we were targeting are held on a farm about a mile and a half down the road.
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Post by darinfry on Dec 6, 2018 22:14:19 GMT -5
The fact that I have yet to see dead deer on the side of the road (road kill) in NW Indiana is the number 1 reason I'm saying it's less deer. I drive down I-65 to get to my hunting spot in Jasper County and normally there are gory blood splatters all over the roadway come end of October/start of November. This year, I haven't seen a single one. I believe the archery harvest is up due to cross bows and strongly believe that. Plenty of guys out there with a crossbow during archery that would have never been out before the start of firearms previously. Locally where I hunt, there's an increase in numbers but, based on the lack of road kill, I believe the overall population in Lake, Porter, White and Jasper Counties are down. I also travel up 90 minutes to hunt on 31, and didn’t notice the usual number of road kills. I believe the state publishes that number somewhere, but I could be wrong. If so, it would be an excellent indicator of the current state of the herd. besides hunter harvest numbers i believe that is the other main indicator of population density that state biologists go by |
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