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Post by jjas on Nov 6, 2018 15:57:29 GMT -5
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The reality is medicare and medicaid are direct government run healthcare plans and many think that eventually medicare will be expanded initially to the over 55 crowd and eventually to everyone.
And before anyone has a stroke over it, I'm not advocating that we do that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 16:03:08 GMT -5
gregr The reality is medicare and medicaid are direct government run healthcare plans and many think that eventually medicare will be expanded initially to the over 55 crowd and eventually to everyone. And before anyone has a stroke over it, I'm not advocating that we do that. Medicare is funded by the monies we working people, along with our employers, through the years have paid. It`s not taxpayer subsidized. . It`s not government run healthcare, it`s funds are disbursed by government.
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 6, 2018 16:27:36 GMT -5
gregr The reality is medicare and medicaid are direct government run healthcare plans and many think that eventually medicare will be expanded initially to the over 55 crowd and eventually to everyone. And before anyone has a stroke over it, I'm not advocating that we do that. Medicare is funded by the monies we working people, along with our employers, through the years have paid. It`s not taxpayer subsidized. . It`s not government run healthcare, it`s funds are disbursed by government. I’ll have to check for sure but I think my wife and I pay $134 a month each to Medicare. Not even talking about our supplements because Medicare doesn’t cover it all..
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Post by streamangler on Nov 6, 2018 16:32:07 GMT -5
gregr The reality is medicare and medicaid are direct government run healthcare plans and many think that eventually medicare will be expanded initially to the over 55 crowd and eventually to everyone. And before anyone has a stroke over it, I'm not advocating that we do that. Medicare is funded by the monies we working people, along with our employers, through the years have paid. It`s not taxpayer subsidized. . It`s not government run healthcare, it`s funds are disbursed by government. Must keep your knives awfully sharp to split those hairs. Do you support Bernie Sanders call for "Medicare for All"? Another angle, will you go off the program once you have maxed your contribution?
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Post by jjas on Nov 6, 2018 16:44:26 GMT -5
gregr The reality is medicare and medicaid are direct government run healthcare plans and many think that eventually medicare will be expanded initially to the over 55 crowd and eventually to everyone. And before anyone has a stroke over it, I'm not advocating that we do that. Medicare is funded by the monies we working people, along with our employers, through the years have paid. It`s not taxpayer subsidized. . It`s not government run healthcare, it`s funds are disbursed by government. The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) is the federal agency that runs Medicare. The program is funded in part by Social Security and Medicare taxes you pay on your income, in part through premiums that people with Medicare pay, and in part by the federal budget.So medicare is run by the federal government AND it is partially subsidized with taxpayer monies.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 17:39:19 GMT -5
Medicare is funded by the monies we working people, along with our employers, through the years have paid. It`s not taxpayer subsidized. . It`s not government run healthcare, it`s funds are disbursed by government. The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) is the federal agency that runs Medicare. The program is funded in part by Social Security and Medicare taxes you pay on your income, in part through premiums that people with Medicare pay, and in part by the federal budget.So medicare is run by the federal government AND it is partially subsidized with taxpayer monies. Negative.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 17:46:34 GMT -5
Medicare is funded by the monies we working people, along with our employers, through the years have paid. It`s not taxpayer subsidized. . It`s not government run healthcare, it`s funds are disbursed by government. Must keep your knives awfully sharp to split those hairs. Do you support Bernie Sanders call for "Medicare for All"? Another angle, will you go off the program once you have maxed your contribution? Splitting hairs? Not at all. And if you know me at all, you know I`m not a socialist and do not support socialist programs. That is exactly my point, Amrica does not, can not, and should not fund socialist programs. Medicare and Social Security are not "entitlements". They were paid for by me, and my employer, all my working life. And once I`ve "maxed my contribution"? Are you nuts? If the government had paid, as they should have, interest on all my monies they`ve kept, there`d be no max to my contributions. When you`ve paid into all this for 55-plus years too, then you`ll have a place at the table to talk about it. Until then...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 17:50:36 GMT -5
Medicare is funded by the monies we working people, along with our employers, through the years have paid. It`s not taxpayer subsidized. . It`s not government run healthcare, it`s funds are disbursed by government. I’ll have to check for sure but I think my wife and I pay $134 a month each to Medicare. Not even talking about our supplements because Medicare doesn’t cover it all.. No, you`re right Woody. I`ll be forced to go on Medicare in a couple years, and it`s ridiculous. We`ll pay monthly, then be forced to pay for a supplement, and there will still be additional out of pocket costs. It`s obscene that government forces us to do this. Had I been able to manage and invest all the money I`ve paid all the years of my working life, I`d be a multi-millionaire, and wouldn`t be in this mess of wasteful, bloated, government waste. For many decades, we`ve allowed government, local, state, and federal, but especially federal, to trample the Constitution, and run all over us.
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Post by streamangler on Nov 6, 2018 18:15:10 GMT -5
Must keep your knives awfully sharp to split those hairs. Do you support Bernie Sanders call for "Medicare for All"? Another angle, will you go off the program once you have maxed your contribution? Splitting hairs? Not at all. And if you know me at all, you know I`m not a socialist and do not support socialist programs. That is exactly my point, Amrica does not, can not, and should not fund socialist programs. Medicare and Social Security are not "entitlements". They were paid for by me, and my employer, all my working life. And once I`ve "maxed my contribution"? Are you nuts? If the government had paid, as they should have, interest on all my monies they`ve kept, there`d be no max to my contributions. When you`ve paid into all this for 55-plus years too, then you`ll have a place at the table to talk about it. Until then... Considering the model relies on the younger to contribute to the welfare of the senior, I feel I have as much say as those benefiting from my biweekly contributions. Each situation is different but most have contributed less to the pot than they will recieve. Interesting reads. www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/economy/column-whos-paying-the-true-cost-of-medicarewww.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/chrisconover/2012/12/03/aarp-lobbies-for-100000-plus-medicare-subsidy-for-seniors/amp/www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/feb/01/medicare-and-social-security-what-you-paid-what-yo/
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 18:18:56 GMT -5
Splitting hairs? Not at all. And if you know me at all, you know I`m not a socialist and do not support socialist programs. That is exactly my point, Amrica does not, can not, and should not fund socialist programs. Medicare and Social Security are not "entitlements". They were paid for by me, and my employer, all my working life. And once I`ve "maxed my contribution"? Are you nuts? If the government had paid, as they should have, interest on all my monies they`ve kept, there`d be no max to my contributions. When you`ve paid into all this for 55-plus years too, then you`ll have a place at the table to talk about it. Until then... Considering the model relies on the younger to contribute to the welfare of the senior, I feel I have as much say as those benefiting from my biweekly contributions. Each situation is different but most have contributed less to the pot than they will recieve. Interesting reads. www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/economy/column-whos-paying-the-true-cost-of-medicarewww.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/chrisconover/2012/12/03/aarp-lobbies-for-100000-plus-medicare-subsidy-for-seniors/amp/www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/feb/01/medicare-and-social-security-what-you-paid-what-yo/You`re terribly confused. Even if Social Security "went broke" today, it would still pay out .80 cents on the dollar to recipients, so no, it is not dependent on you. Furthermore, you`re really giving yourself way too much credit. No, you do not have as much say in this as we who have paid into it for many, many decades.
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Post by streamangler on Nov 6, 2018 18:23:16 GMT -5
You`re terribly confused. Even if Social Security "went broke" today, it would still pay out .80 cents on the dollar to recipients, so no, it is not dependent on you. Furthermore, you`re really giving yourself way too much credit. No, you do not have as much say in this as we who have paid into it for many, many decades. I believe we each got a single vote this cycle.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 18:32:19 GMT -5
You`re terribly confused. Even if Social Security "went broke" today, it would still pay out .80 cents on the dollar to recipients, so no, it is not dependent on you. Furthermore, you`re really giving yourself way too much credit. No, you do not have as much say in this as we who have paid into it for many, many decades. I believe we each got a single vote this cycle. Our vote has nothing to do with how Social Security works...
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Post by jjas on Nov 6, 2018 22:17:11 GMT -5
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I don't think so...
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Post by tenring on Nov 7, 2018 5:49:42 GMT -5
But it would seem that there was no discussion in all the debates recently that we are still short of Doctors and Nurses when it comes to Healthcare. The DumbocRATS will try to do away with all the tax cuts in order to pay for 'guvmint programs concerning our health, but if the waiting rooms are packed and not enough personnel to attend to the patients, just how good is it in reality.
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