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Post by genesis273 on Oct 1, 2018 16:41:46 GMT -5
Okay I think I'm done with hornaday ammo. I attempted to sight in my muzzle loader today and had horrible success. I got it on paper at 25 yards then moved to 100. I was shooting 3 shot groups and swabbing the barrel after each group. I couldn't decide where the dial the scope due to one shot being high right then low left. I was using a Caldwell field pod for my rest. I was finding wads 3 yards in front of my set up and then at 30 yards. I was certain each shot was seated properly each time. I'm using a Nikon Inline XR scope. And shooting a traditions vortex striker fire ml. I just don't get it. I tried Hornaday out if my Savage 220 with similar sporadic patterns. Remington sabots zeroed perfectly though. I numbered my last 3 shots.  |
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Post by omegahunter on Oct 1, 2018 17:02:51 GMT -5
Different guns, different ammo.
Hornady reloading bullets are my go-to bullet for most of my needs and they work extremely well in my rifles.
How tight are the sabots to push down and are they the slick ones or the older black ones?
I always got better groups with the old black sabots that were super tight.
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Post by genesis273 on Oct 1, 2018 17:25:57 GMT -5
They are super tight. They're the new red slick ones. I also agree with the rifle ammo. I haven't had any issues with the .308 ammo. Different guns, different ammo. Hornady reloading bullets are my go-to bullet for most of my needs and they work extremely well in my rifles. Now tight are the Santos to push down and are they the slick ones or the older black ones? I always got better groups with the old black Santos that were super tight. |
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Post by BOBinIN on Oct 2, 2018 4:50:43 GMT -5
It's a muzzleloader... you mentioned the rifle, the scope, the bullets, the sabots and the rifle rest...no mention of the powder type and charge weight. With it throwing sabots that close and distant I'd be looking at the powder. Good luck.
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Oct 2, 2018 5:49:10 GMT -5
I use the hornady sst 250gr in my t/c endeavor. 150 gr of pellets. They are not tight at all. Shoot fantastic.
Try another load. More or less powder. I would say scope problem. But you said Remington shoot fine. Some guns just don’t like the bullets we want to use.
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Post by parson on Oct 2, 2018 10:25:51 GMT -5
I've used their XTP bullets for years in various muzzleloaders, had good results with all. I usually stick with 100 grain loads in .50 caliber rifles. But, as mentioned, some guns just like different combinations.
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Post by genesis273 on Oct 2, 2018 16:54:51 GMT -5
Hogdens pellets. 100 grains. And after looking my muzzel loader over last night, I seen that my scope has in fact moved rearward. I can't wiggle it by hand but, thr recoil must be hard enough. I'll try the hornaday again after I reposition the scope. It's a muzzleloader... you mentioned the rifle, the scope, the bullets, the sabots and the rifle rest...no mention of the powder type and charge weight. With it throwing sabots that close and distant I'd be looking at the powder. Good luck. |
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Post by BOBinIN on Oct 3, 2018 4:45:52 GMT -5
Hogdens pellets. 100 grains. And after looking my muzzel loader over last night, I seen that my scope has in fact moved rearward. I can't wiggle it by hand but, thr recoil must be hard enough. I'll try the hornaday again after I reposition the scope. It's a muzzleloader... you mentioned the rifle, the scope, the bullets, the sabots and the rifle rest...no mention of the powder type and charge weight. With it throwing sabots that close and distant I'd be looking at the powder. Good luck. Good for you...you found the problem, now tighten that sucker down! |
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Post by genesis273 on Oct 3, 2018 5:30:21 GMT -5
Hogdens pellets. 100 grains. And after looking my muzzel loader over last night, I seen that my scope has in fact moved rearward. I can't wiggle it by hand but, thr recoil must be hard enough. I'll try the hornaday again after I reposition the scope. Good for you...you found the problem, now tighten that sucker down! I plan on it! I'm always terrified of mashing the tube but, this is the first time I've had an issue with a loose scope. I'll post updates soon. |
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Post by oldhoyt on Oct 3, 2018 6:36:05 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with Pyrodex, but I've had great luck with Blackhorn 209. Easier clean-up, better velocity, less corrosive, less fouling residue, easier loading, etc.
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Post by BOBinIN on Oct 3, 2018 11:46:13 GMT -5
Speaking of BH-209...it's said that you can't ignite it with a #11 percussion cap...I can! I have two muzzleloaders that use #11 caps and they fire every time...provided I put a few grains of Pyrodex under the nipple, or down the bore before the BH-209 charge. The extra blast of fire from the pyrodex ignites the BH-209 every time. Try it. BOBinIN
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Post by bullseye69 on Oct 4, 2018 16:18:21 GMT -5
Since I started using this brand of sabots I have had nothing but great success with my muzzle loaders. mmpsabots.com/They are the best IMO. |
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Oct 4, 2018 17:17:34 GMT -5
I use Barnes and BH 209. I’ve yet to have a deer take another step with that combo out of my gun.
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Post by esshup on Oct 10, 2018 20:51:14 GMT -5
Make sure to degrease the rings and scope. The scope isn't moving forward, the gun is moving rearward under it.  Don't shoot when the barrel is warm. The sabots will soften and won't work as well. |
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Post by genesis273 on Oct 14, 2018 8:57:48 GMT -5
Thanks for the info and advice! Make sure to degrease the rings and scope. The scope isn't moving forward, the gun is moving rearward under it. Don't shoot when the barrel is warm. The sabots will soften and won't work as well. |
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Post by genesis273 on Oct 21, 2018 16:35:00 GMT -5
So it's crow and some humble pie for me. As far as the muzzleloader goes anyhow. I got the scope tightened down and increased my grains to 150. Can't argue with results like this at 100 yards. Zerod my Savage 220 at 100 yards also using Remington Rifled Sluggers   |
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Post by omegahunter on Oct 23, 2018 16:15:14 GMT -5
Looking good!!
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