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Post by hugedogleg on Sept 26, 2018 14:29:52 GMT -5
Hillary was winning in most polls. Polls are information and are not infallible. But when you see Donnelly leading Braun in a red state such as IN you should take note. Trump's histrionics are the only reason for that. He has alienated the women vote. No one needs an explanation of that. He has alienated the Independent vote. Whether you like Trump or not is irrelevant. It is how his childish behavior is going to affect the Republican party's ability to retain control of Congress. His goals are America first? Really? Is that why Ford is taking a $1 billion charge to earnings because of the tariffs? Is that why the largest American producer of nails is on the verge of bankruptcy? Is that why every electronic item you buy will cost more? I can go on and on but he is hurting the consumers in this country and their employers. BS if that is America first. It is bully Trump first. Always has been..... You are right some people are turned off by Trump. I have shook my head more than once. This being said anyone who can't see that the man is turning this country around has their head stuck in a hole. This reason he is successful is that he doesn't play their political games. He calls it how he sees it and it might not sound good but it's generally the truth. I for one vote with my wallet. Trump has our economy roaring. Anyone without a job, at least here in Texas either can't physically work or chooses not to. He tells people what he's going to do and then does it. That is a mind blowing concept for 95 percent of politicians. It's got them squirming like the reptiles they are. But if some harsh language or an insensitive remark are too much, then vote democratic because lord knows they aren't going to hurt anyone's precious feelings.
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Post by swilk on Sept 26, 2018 15:03:28 GMT -5
He is president for exactly the reasons that people hate him. He is not politically correct. He doesn't play by the rules. He is not a status quo guy. He doesn't care about feelings. He has goals and he his Hell bent on achieving them. His goals are America First and that's refreshing. What ever happens you can bet he will work hard every day to fix the things he feels are wrong with our country. And so far in my opinion he's doing great. The above IS why Trump won. People are sick and tired of the same old Washington BS and Trump doesn't play by their rules. Do I always agree with him? Nope... But....it sure has been fun watching the Republicans, Democrats and the media periodically p*ss themselves over the latest thing that Trump did on any given day. The largest reason Trump won was because of who he ran against and the fact that the opposing party had been in control of the WH for 8 years...
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Post by bill9068 on Sept 26, 2018 15:03:57 GMT -5
I usually don’t talk politics because I tend to people off. But President Trump was in Evansville a few weeks ago, he drew 13,500 estimated by police. Protesters drew 500-600 estimated by police. I don’t watch polls I watch results. I think some of you will be surprised come November, I could be wrong but I don’t think so.
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Post by hugedogleg on Sept 26, 2018 15:06:02 GMT -5
I usually don’t talk politics because I tend to people off. But President Trump was in Evansville a few weeks ago, he drew 13,500 estimated by police. Protesters drew 500-600 estimated by police. I don’t watch polls I watch results. I think some of you will be surprised come November, I could be wrong but I don’t so. You are right about that. Talking politics never ends well. That being said I think I'll just sit back and watch.
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Post by swilk on Sept 26, 2018 15:06:32 GMT -5
Hillary was winning in most polls. Polls are information and are not infallible. But when you see Donnelly leading Braun in a red state such as IN you should take note. Trump's histrionics are the only reason for that. He has alienated the women vote. No one needs an explanation of that. He has alienated the Independent vote. Whether you like Trump or not is irrelevant. It is how his childish behavior is going to affect the Republican party's ability to retain control of Congress. His goals are America first? Really? Is that why Ford is taking a $1 billion charge to earnings because of the tariffs? Is that why the largest American producer of nails is on the verge of bankruptcy? Is that why every electronic item you buy will cost more? I can go on and on but he is hurting the consumers in this country and their employers. BS if that is America first. It is bully Trump first. Always has been..... Having believed one of our biggest problems, as a nation, is our addiction to cheap goods I think the tariffs might be a good thing for us in the long run. Wean us off those cheap goods ... maybe bring back some jobs .... increase wages ....
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Post by hugedogleg on Sept 26, 2018 15:07:38 GMT -5
Polls are information and are not infallible. But when you see Donnelly leading Braun in a red state such as IN you should take note. Trump's histrionics are the only reason for that. He has alienated the women vote. No one needs an explanation of that. He has alienated the Independent vote. Whether you like Trump or not is irrelevant. It is how his childish behavior is going to affect the Republican party's ability to retain control of Congress. His goals are America first? Really? Is that why Ford is taking a $1 billion charge to earnings because of the tariffs? Is that why the largest American producer of nails is on the verge of bankruptcy? Is that why every electronic item you buy will cost more? I can go on and on but he is hurting the consumers in this country and their employers. BS if that is America first. It is bully Trump first. Always has been..... Having believed one of our biggest problems, as a nation, is our addiction to cheap goods I think the tariffs might be a good thing for us in the long run. Wean us off those cheap goods ... maybe bring back some jobs .... increase wages .... Yeah what ever happened to buy American
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Post by hugedogleg on Sept 26, 2018 15:12:53 GMT -5
Trump decided that bend over and take it isn't a solid trade position. I'd have to agree. Game of chicken, we will see who blinks. I'm betting on Trump coming out on top.
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Post by jimstc on Sept 26, 2018 15:19:13 GMT -5
I don't see your response to how he is harming American companies and consumers. This economic recovery will be short lived because of his tariffs. Furthermore it isn't his economic recovery. Presidents love to claim that but that is ludicrous. No one person or no one or two or ten policy decisions create an economic recovery. Fed raised rates today and plan on three more in 2019. That spells slowing economy. His appointee is the Fed Chairman and he has already attacked him. Economists are predicting a recession in 2020. He generally tells the truth? The Washington Post has documented at least 1500 lies in his Twitter rants. He says what suits him and benefits him. He isn't smart enough to grasp complex truths. Here is where you and I are different. My emotions never come into play. Hence his "harsh language or insensitive remark" have no bearing on my thinking. It just shows his mindset which is whatever is in his head will come out of his mouth or Twitter account regardless of the consequences to America or its citizens. He is a narcissistic, power hungry person who cares about no one but himself. Just ask his wife.....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 15:22:00 GMT -5
Having believed one of our biggest problems, as a nation, is our addiction to cheap goods I think the tariffs might be a good thing for us in the long run. Wean us off those cheap goods ... maybe bring back some jobs .... increase wages .... Yeah what ever happened to buy American Part of what happened to "buy American", was that American auto makers decided to build "American" vehicles outside of the U.S., then, Toyota, a MUCH better vehicle, began to made made by American workers, inside the United States. No more government motors for me, ever. But then again, my 2009 Tacoma only has 109,000 miles on it. At age 61 I can`t see ever needing a new vehicle.
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Post by jimstc on Sept 26, 2018 15:22:06 GMT -5
Having believed one of our biggest problems, as a nation, is our addiction to cheap goods I think the tariffs might be a good thing for us in the long run. Wean us off those cheap goods ... maybe bring back some jobs .... increase wages .... Yeah what ever happened to buy American It became too expensive
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 15:23:54 GMT -5
I don't see you response to how he is harming American companies and consumers. This economic recovery will be short lived because of his tariffs. Furthermore it isn't his economic recovery. Presidents love to claim that but that is ludicrous. No one person or no one or two or ten policy decisions create an economic recovery. Fed raised rates today and plan on three more in 2019. That spells slowing economy. His appointee is the Fed Chairman and he has already attacked him. Economists are predicting a recession in 2020. He generally tells the truth? The Washington Post has documented at least 1500 lies in his Twitter rants. He says what suits him and benefits him. He isn't smart enough to grasp complex truths. Here is where you and I are different. My emotions never come into play. Hence his "harsh language or insensitive remark" have no bearing on my thinking. It just shows his mindset which is whatever is in his head will come out of his mouth or Twitter account regardless of the consequences to America or its citizens. He is a narcissistic, power hungry person who cares about no one but himself. Just ask his wife..... Time will tell if the tariffs hurt us in the long run. One thing we DO know is that the international trade agreements have hurt the U.S. for a long, long time, in horrific ways. It could be that just a little short -term pain turns things around and "levels the playing field". But as I said, time will tell.
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Post by hugedogleg on Sept 26, 2018 15:31:24 GMT -5
Like sand through the hour glass these are the days of our lives. Makes me no never mind. All I have done my whole life is work. Dem or Rep. I survived Obama. If that's possible anything is possible. The tax cuts might have a little tiny iddy biddy bit to do with the economy. But maybe they don't. I sure feel better when I spend my money. We will see what happens.
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Post by jimstc on Sept 26, 2018 15:32:19 GMT -5
I don't see you response to how he is harming American companies and consumers. This economic recovery will be short lived because of his tariffs. Furthermore it isn't his economic recovery. Presidents love to claim that but that is ludicrous. No one person or no one or two or ten policy decisions create an economic recovery. Fed raised rates today and plan on three more in 2019. That spells slowing economy. His appointee is the Fed Chairman and he has already attacked him. Economists are predicting a recession in 2020. He generally tells the truth? The Washington Post has documented at least 1500 lies in his Twitter rants. He says what suits him and benefits him. He isn't smart enough to grasp complex truths. Here is where you and I are different. My emotions never come into play. Hence his "harsh language or insensitive remark" have no bearing on my thinking. It just shows his mindset which is whatever is in his head will come out of his mouth or Twitter account regardless of the consequences to America or its citizens. He is a narcissistic, power hungry person who cares about no one but himself. Just ask his wife..... Time will tell if the tariffs hurt us in the long run. One thing we DO know is that the international trade agreements have hurt the U.S. for a long, long time, in horrific ways. It could be that just a little short -term pain turns things around and "levels the playing field". But as I said, time will tell. I hope you are right. And I do like my Ford 2013 F350 made in Louisville, KY. Like you at age 66 and 91,000 miles it will probably be my last truck. Next thread is on Ford vs Toyota. LOL!
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Post by hugedogleg on Sept 26, 2018 15:32:42 GMT -5
I don't see you response to how he is harming American companies and consumers. This economic recovery will be short lived because of his tariffs. Furthermore it isn't his economic recovery. Presidents love to claim that but that is ludicrous. No one person or no one or two or ten policy decisions create an economic recovery. Fed raised rates today and plan on three more in 2019. That spells slowing economy. His appointee is the Fed Chairman and he has already attacked him. Economists are predicting a recession in 2020. He generally tells the truth? The Washington Post has documented at least 1500 lies in his Twitter rants. He says what suits him and benefits him. He isn't smart enough to grasp complex truths. Here is where you and I are different. My emotions never come into play. Hence his "harsh language or insensitive remark" have no bearing on my thinking. It just shows his mindset which is whatever is in his head will come out of his mouth or Twitter account regardless of the consequences to America or its citizens. He is a narcissistic, power hungry person who cares about no one but himself. Just ask his wife..... Time will tell if the tariffs hurt us in the long run. One thing we DO know is that the international trade agreements have hurt the U.S. for a long, long time, in horrific ways. It could be that just a little short -term pain turns things around and "levels the playing field". But as I said, time will tell. Or we could keep doing the same thing that hasn't worked for decades and hope something changes. LOL
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Post by jjas on Sept 26, 2018 15:39:00 GMT -5
swik
If you are talking about the general election, I might agree to some extent. Hillary just isn't a likable individual.
If you are talking about the primaries...I would have to disagree. I think Republicans were just sick of voting for the lesser of two evils and Trump offered something different.
And as I said earlier...it's been fun to watch.
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Post by hugedogleg on Sept 26, 2018 15:45:46 GMT -5
swik If you are talking about the general election, I might agree to some extent. Hillary just isn't a likable individual. If you are talking about the primaries...I would have to disagree. I think Republicans were just sick of voting for the lesser of two evils and Trump offered something different. And as I said earlier...it's been fun to watch. Yeah he is about as predictable as a rabid bobcat. And he isn't scared to let these terror loving dictators know that they need to act right. Obama could sure learn a lot about red lines from him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 20:20:23 GMT -5
I don't see your response to how he is harming American companies and consumers. This economic recovery will be short lived because of his tariffs. Furthermore it isn't his economic recovery. Presidents love to claim that but that is ludicrous. No one person or no one or two or ten policy decisions create an economic recovery. Fed raised rates today and plan on three more in 2019. That spells slowing economy. His appointee is the Fed Chairman and he has already attacked him. Economists are predicting a recession in 2020. He generally tells the truth? The Washington Post has documented at least 1500 lies in his Twitter rants. He says what suits him and benefits him. He isn't smart enough to grasp complex truths. Here is where you and I are different. My emotions never come into play. Hence his "harsh language or insensitive remark" have no bearing on my thinking. It just shows his mindset which is whatever is in his head will come out of his mouth or Twitter account regardless of the consequences to America or its citizens. He is a narcissistic, power hungry person who cares about no one but himself. Just ask his wife..... I would say part of the recovery is due to him. Almost as soon as he was declared winner the market surged. After the tax cuts it surged even more. I agree some is an over time upward trend, but I do think a large portion of the growth is him.
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Post by beermaker on Sept 27, 2018 4:43:14 GMT -5
I agree with about everything Trump has done, but I rarely agree with what he says or tweets.
As an American, little has been more shameful than Obama's "apology tour."
I have had five active duty military customers in the last two years. I have asked each of them who has been better to serve under. They all, without hesitation, said Trump. They simply did not feel that Obama supported them.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Sept 27, 2018 5:41:27 GMT -5
I voted for Trump, and will again in a couple of years. The difference in this country over the last two years is incredible to me, I see it in the hard economic numbers and more importantly I see it in my life and the lives of most everybody around me. I'm 31 years old, and this is the first time in my life where I've had the feeling like the future holds something better, rather than that this is a country in decline.
I do think Trump is kind of sleazy and at times obnoxious. I think his claims of faith are purely political, same as our last president. I don't think that the current economic boom is necessarily a direct result of his actions, rather the entire country's reaction to his election and commitment to American workers and businesses. But I do not think that we'd be anywhere near this level of prosperity if Hillary, Bernie, or any of the other GOP hopefuls were in the whitehouse.
I do like it when he gets up in front of the UN and tells them outright that America will put America first. The fact of the matter is that this is the greatest country on earth, and if they don't like it they can go pound sand.
And, although it is all kind of ridiculous, I'll take porn star/prostitute and p***y grabbing scandals over ISIS threats, nuclear war, failed economy, gun grabs, and overall government meddling in our lives, and I'll be happy about it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 5:54:07 GMT -5
I agree with about everything Trump has done, but I rarely agree with what he says or tweets. As an American, little has been more shameful than Obama's "apology tour." I have had five active duty military customers in the last two years. I have asked each of them who has been better to serve under. They all, without hesitation, said Trump. They simply did not feel that Obama supported them. There was a LOT of ridiculousness from Hussein odumba, so even as difficult as it is to pull just one thing out of that cesspool of a president`s history, I was never so amazed and perplexed in my life as when I heard the "you didn`t build that" nonsense. I still shake my head today at the audacity it took to tell people who did the hard work of taking the risks to start up a business, and put in all the time, dealt with all the stresses, created jobs for those not motivated enough to do the same hard work, and they were told, they didn`t do that? I`m done with this because I feel my blood pressure rising again already...
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