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Post by HillBillyJeff on Sept 24, 2018 14:38:51 GMT -5
Posted some trail cam pics on fb and mentioned it would be easy for me to tag one of these this fall, but I want an adult bird not a jake. Guy commented that those in the pic are all adult birds. I replied they're super jakes cause they don't have the full tail yet. Now I know these aren't this year's poults, so they're last year. Makes them roughly 18 months old. Beards are plenty long enough, but I am questioning the fullness of their tails. Now I've read some articles that say a super jake will have a full tail. I think they're mistaken. Take a look and let me know what you think. Even judging their head size and body size I'm saying these were hatched last season. Now the only time I've ever shot one of these was in my second season of hunting 2010, in the fall I popped what I thought was a tom. But his wasn't high in the center of the tail, there was none there. Did he drop his young tail feathers out the top, and the new adult tail feathers not grown in yet?
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Post by featherduster on Sept 24, 2018 15:33:54 GMT -5
I tend to agree with you that those are for the most part mature birds. This year has been a weird year since before season started up to right now with small poults in September.
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Post by Pinoc on Sept 24, 2018 16:48:49 GMT -5
You can see the spurs on a couple of them. Two year old birds come next spring I believe.
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Post by oldhoyt on Jan 25, 2019 7:59:53 GMT -5
I shot one that weighed about 20 lbs (didn't weigh it), had a nice 9" beard, full fan and zero spurs. I've shot jakes with nubs for spurs, but this bird had nothing. Tasted fine.
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Post by turk2di on Feb 2, 2019 10:28:27 GMT -5
I called these birds .. “ Jake and a half’s”!
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Post by huntinfool on Feb 5, 2019 22:57:13 GMT -5
That is not a Jake. It's a 2 plus year old bird that has lost some of it's tail feathers fighting and such. They will regrow the feathers over the passage of time, I shot one that had the appearance of a Jake fan several years ago and was puzzled by this too, being that it had a 10 inch beard and 1 inch spurs. I went to a buddy of mine who has killed more turkeys than the bird flu (and is also a taxidermist) and asked him about it and he said it's not uncommon to see this and that they will regenerate tail feathers that they loose. They may be missing outside feathers or the center feathers as the one you have pictured. Hope this helps!
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