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Post by jjas on Aug 23, 2018 5:44:17 GMT -5
They know where to buy fake papers. We had a K child last week get caught some how she was only 5 years old. We have some down there now that dont even come up to my knee. They dont even ask for SS numbers anymore. I guess good job security for me. As far as jobs. If it wasnt for the Hispanics here all the factories would have to shut down. They are begging for help and cant find people. There are adds all over the radio. Some jobs starting at 19.00 an hour. I too, have heard of people who will come to your door and provide you with a SS number. If a SS number belongs to a long dead person or it's not found as a valid number or if it is being used by multiple individuals it shouldn't be hard to stop through e-verify. I hear the argument about how "Americans won't work" and that may/may not be true. Regardless, letting people who are here illegally slide through the cracks to fill a job is in and of itself, illegal and the employers should face fines and/or jail time if they are found to willingly ignore the law. Perhaps it's time for this country to look @ ways to speed up the process to allow people into this country legally via work visas and/or a path to citizenship. It would have to be more cost effective than the game our elected officials play now with sanctuary cities and tough talk of "sending them back" and/or spending billions of dollars on border walls that aren't going to stop the influx of people into this country. Or we can continue to play politics with the issue and pretend we are tough on border enforcement while illegals pour into this country and find jobs, buy cars, get driver's licenses, rent/buy homes, have kids in public schools, etc...all the while without legal documentation. |
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Post by parrothead on Aug 23, 2018 6:20:07 GMT -5
jjas, I dont know what the answer is bud. We have to do something though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 6:39:26 GMT -5
March 1973 stated it correctly.
"And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon. "
Open the boarders and run to the dark side of the moon.
Brain Damaged lunatics
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Post by Sasquatch on Aug 23, 2018 9:55:08 GMT -5
This guy can pull a social out of the air and get a job, but to get a drivers license last week I had to provide a birth certificate, social security CARD, two bills showing my address, and a current valid I.D. Sure, sounds reasonable.
Bottom line, Mollie should be alive because HE shouldn't have been here. Period.
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Post by nfalls116 on Aug 23, 2018 17:34:02 GMT -5
This guy can pull a social out of the air and get a job, but to get a drivers license last week I had to provide a birth certificate, social security CARD, two bills showing my address, and a current valid I.D. Sure, sounds reasonable. Bottom line, Mollie should be alive because HE shouldn't have been here. Period. If he had gone through process and been legal then what? Did he have violent record in Mexico? I haven’t seen that anywhere. What if the killer was some honky from Iowa that used an ar style gun and was a member of the nra? Then what would you guys say? |
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Post by jjas on Aug 23, 2018 18:48:03 GMT -5
This guy can pull a social out of the air and get a job, but to get a drivers license last week I had to provide a birth certificate, social security CARD, two bills showing my address, and a current valid I.D. Sure, sounds reasonable. Bottom line, Mollie should be alive because HE shouldn't have been here. Period. If he had gone through process and been legal then what? Did he have violent record in Mexico? I haven’t seen that anywhere. What if the killer was some honky from Iowa that used an ar style gun and was a member of the nra? Then what would you guys say? But it wasn't someone from Iowa, and he didn't go through the process to be legal. He lied and the powers that be are too caught up in party politics to fund a nationwide system that should have caught this POS and deported him before he stabbed her to death. But if you really want my opinion about what I would say if had been a resident of Iowa, with an AR and a member of the NRA, who did this, I would say... What the h*ll difference does his owning an AR and being a member of the NRA have to do with killing an innocent girl? I hope they lock this POS up for the rest of his natural life and be sure and open his cell door every single night and let the predators in to play... That's what he deserves... |
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Post by Sasquatch on Aug 23, 2018 18:56:56 GMT -5
This guy can pull a social out of the air and get a job, but to get a drivers license last week I had to provide a birth certificate, social security CARD, two bills showing my address, and a current valid I.D. Sure, sounds reasonable. Bottom line, Mollie should be alive because HE shouldn't have been here. Period. If he had gone through process and been legal then what? Did he have violent record in Mexico? I haven’t seen that anywhere. What if the killer was some honky from Iowa that used an ar style gun and was a member of the nra? Then what would you guys say? I can honestly say I'm not hung up on the perp's race. His STATUS is the issue here. If he was a white illegal it'd be the same argument. If he was, to use your terminology, " a honky from Iowa" then immigration status wouldn't be a factor, because he's from Iowa! Not sure what AR's, Iowa and whiteness has to do with this anyway. I get tired of people hinting that anyone opposing illegal immigration is racist. The fact is that we are being flooded with millions of people that are from the south. They happen to be "Latinos" for the most part. It be just as big of a problem if millions of Canadians were flooding across. If you are for open borders, that's ok. Just say so. |
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Post by nfalls116 on Aug 23, 2018 18:57:20 GMT -5
So what difference does it make if he is an illegal immigrant or not???
Wrong is wrong.
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Post by Sasquatch on Aug 23, 2018 19:04:17 GMT -5
So what difference does it make if he is an illegal immigrant or not??? Wrong is wrong. Just speaking for myself here, but I would say the difference it makes is: A. If he wasn't here he couldn't kill Mollie or any other American. B. He's here illegally, which also means physically, which means he can kill people. C. If he wasn't here, he'd be in Mexico, or Honduras, or wherever, making killing Iowa joggers considerably more difficult. |
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Post by nfalls116 on Aug 23, 2018 19:06:15 GMT -5
Most people I’ve met that oppose illegal immigration to the point to act that all illegals are bad are the same as the people who think all gun owners are bad... Narrow minded bigots. I never called anyone a racist here but lots of the conversation on this site has plenty of racist undertones. Maybe people should open their minds more than their mouths.
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Post by nfalls116 on Aug 23, 2018 19:06:53 GMT -5
So what difference does it make if he is an illegal immigrant or not??? Wrong is wrong. Just speaking for myself here, but I would say the difference it makes is: A. If he wasn't here he couldn't kill Mollie or any other American. B. He's here illegally, which also means physically, which means he can kill people. C. If he wasn't here, he'd be in Mexico, or Honduras, or wherever, making killing Iowa joggers considerably more difficult. Or he would’ve filled he documents out and came across legally and killed someone anyway.? |
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Post by nfalls116 on Aug 23, 2018 19:13:57 GMT -5
Do jjas is “status” wouldn’t make a difference if he was same as most of us on the forum? Hmmm |
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Post by Pinoc on Aug 23, 2018 20:40:49 GMT -5
Most people I’ve met that oppose illegal immigration to the point to act that all illegals are bad are the same as the people who think all gun owners are bad... Narrow minded bigots. I never called anyone a racist here but lots of the conversation on this site has plenty of racist undertones. Maybe people should open their minds more than their mouths. Call me a bigot if you like but if they are an “illegal” than they have ZERO rights to be here no matter their nationality or skin color. |
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Post by nfalls116 on Aug 23, 2018 21:07:45 GMT -5
Most people I’ve met that oppose illegal immigration to the point to act that all illegals are bad are the same as the people who think all gun owners are bad... Narrow minded bigots. I never called anyone a racist here but lots of the conversation on this site has plenty of racist undertones. Maybe people should open their minds more than their mouths. Call me a bigot if you like but if they are an “illegal” than they have ZERO rights to be here no matter their nationality or skin color. Says the white guy who never felt the need to flee his country to survive and build a life mostly free from corrupt government and police. |
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Post by greghopper on Aug 23, 2018 21:11:41 GMT -5
Most people I’ve met that oppose illegal immigration to the point to act that all illegals are bad are the same as the people who think all gun owners are bad... Narrow minded bigots. I never called anyone a racist here but lots of the conversation on this site has plenty of racist undertones. Maybe people should open their minds more than their mouths. Call me a bigot if you like but if they are an “illegal” than they have ZERO rights to be here no matter their nationality or skin color. Wrong.... believe it or not they do have some RIGHTS! www.lawyers.com/legal-info/immigration/general-immigration/legal-rights-of-illegal-immigrants.html |
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Post by jjas on Aug 23, 2018 21:41:42 GMT -5
Do jjas is “status” wouldn’t make a difference if he was same as most of us on the forum? Hmmm Say what? |
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Post by nfalls116 on Aug 23, 2018 21:47:52 GMT -5
Do jjas is “status” wouldn’t make a difference if he was same as most of us on the forum? Hmmm Say what? Stupid autocorrect S0, his “status” would only matter as long as it isn’t the same as yours, mine, ours. |
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Post by jjas on Aug 23, 2018 22:49:50 GMT -5
Stupid autocorrect S0, his “status” would only matter as long as it isn’t the same as yours, mine, ours. I don't have an issue with anyone coming into this country legally. I do have a problem with people coming into this country illegally, lying about their status via the use of stolen or forged documents and then killing an innocent young woman. And as I stated before...I hope this POS rots in prison and the guards open his cell door every single night to let the predators in to play. |
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Post by bartiks on Aug 24, 2018 2:38:36 GMT -5
Slippery slope, I don't believe there is a silver bullet to fix this issue. Build a wall? Won't work, they've been discovering tunnels for years. Beef up the border patrol agents along the border, that will stop more of them but at the end of the day if a person wants to do something and is determined enough they will do just that.
It's a tragedy what happened to her and we can all say something should of been done to protect her from this type of person, but at the root of this conversation is his status. Not his skin color or his ethnicity, just his status.
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Aug 24, 2018 5:49:39 GMT -5
Most people I’ve met that oppose illegal immigration to the point to act that all illegals are bad are the same as the people who think all gun owners are bad... Narrow minded bigots. I never called anyone a racist here but lots of the conversation on this site has plenty of racist undertones. Maybe people should open their minds more than their mouths. Anyone who is here illegally is bad...period. Come here legally and I have no issues at all. Illegally, send them all back where they came from. There is a process, follow it. |
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