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Post by span870 on Aug 20, 2018 19:04:41 GMT -5
Give me your thoughts. Having a major issue safety wise with my boy. Is it worth the danger.
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Post by indyqdog on Aug 20, 2018 19:55:51 GMT -5
I remember we talked about this a while back--for what its worth, leave it up to him. If he loves it, he is gonna find a way to play or at least express his desire to the point that it becomes an issue. If he is doing well in school and understands that he needs to keep himself busy, and that undying passion for football isnt there, dont make him play. So man people give a crap about how good their kid is at whatever position (dont get me into how much I hate parents' egregious obsessions with their kid's athletic skillsets) when they only thing you are laregely judged on is one thing--character.
Now when it comes to safety, I guess my question would be whether the threat comes from the game itself, the equipment utilized (e.g. crappy pads/ill-fitting helmets etc.), or staff (e.g. coach pushes them an unreasonable amount, puts em at increased risk other than the risk that is just part of football, etc.)? If it ain't the game itself, I'd pull him. No reason to risk serious neurological damage or other long-term injury for what will likely be a limited-time hobby. I still cannot believe the number of people that insist on the "well grandpa and I played football so he'll be fine!" logic. It is absolutely ignorant to science. It is important to monitor neurological performance in any child because at the end of the day, I'll bet every dollar I have that he'll probably pay the bills with his brain, not football.
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Post by span870 on Aug 20, 2018 20:25:43 GMT -5
Well he was moved to varsity offense and defense as a 160# sophomore. Had his first game Friday. Been complaining of a headache. He's now at Riley hospital with a diagnosed major concussion. I know it's going to be an argument but I'm leaning towards he's done. The concussion is part of the problem but he has several other issues going on from this. Beginning stages of ciari and he has two pockets of fluid on either side of his brain. They aren't large enough to need drained according to the surgeon at this time but they are keeping him over night to keep an eye on them. I just don't think it's worth it for a couple of years of high school glory.
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Post by greghopper on Aug 20, 2018 20:58:48 GMT -5
He be done if it was my son....IMO
I can't imagine a Doctor clearing him to play with all the stuff going on in his head.
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Post by duff on Aug 20, 2018 21:08:49 GMT -5
ciari?? I have never heard of it.
It is a tough call. Most play for years with minor bumps and bruises. A few break bones tendons or brains.
If it were not for sports I would have hated school. I would hate to see any kid get seriously hurt playing a sport, but also would hate to stifle a passion...if he has it. Tough call.
I got a concussion my 1st game of my sr year playing football. Not fun but never impacted me after a week off. I would say highschool ball is 100x safer than college and unmeasurable over pro ball where you hear about the brain damage just due to speed and power factor. I also would never forgive myself if my kid was damaged because I let him put himself in more danger.
tough call
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Post by duff on Aug 20, 2018 21:43:10 GMT -5
after looking up chiaria and your other diagnosed issues I agree with Greg, probably not your or his decision to make. Here is to a speedy recovery with no long term damage.
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Post by bartiks on Aug 20, 2018 23:31:16 GMT -5
I would have to agree, I wouldn't let him do the sport anymore. But that is something you will have to discuss with him and both come to an agreement.
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Post by saltydog on Aug 21, 2018 5:01:34 GMT -5
Hear the doctors out span they will not let him continues if there is a chance of it getting worst. You probably already know what the outcome will be. Prayers for your sons healing and you for guidance. Let us know the outcome if you choose too !
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Post by nfalls116 on Aug 21, 2018 5:18:31 GMT -5
Hope the boy gets better quick.
Let the doctor be the bad guy. If that doesn’t work Make sure he understands the risks and the rewards of football. Having a boy on the way I was kind of hoping he would NOT play football.
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Post by nfalls116 on Aug 21, 2018 5:22:55 GMT -5
If it were not for sports I would have hated school [\quote] Pretty sure the only thing that kept me going as often as I did was girls. Probably why I wound up with two cute little girls as payback.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Aug 21, 2018 5:32:44 GMT -5
You have to do what you think is best for your kid, whether they like it or not. Having said that, I don't have any idea what I'd do in your scenario. Maybe give it a couple of weeks just to make sure you're not making a decision out of emotion, one way or another.
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Post by HighCotton on Aug 21, 2018 5:56:10 GMT -5
after looking up chiaria and your other diagnosed issues I agree with Greg, probably not your or his decision to make. Here is to a speedy recovery with no long term damage. I had to look it up, too! Still, you have a tough call. Right off the top, I would agree. Pretty serious stuff and no way he plays again. Down deep between the two of you and other influential family members...lots of discussion. Maybe consider some options? I remember that my youngest son quit football his sophomore year because he wanted to focus on basketball where he played varsity all 4 years. He suffered plenty of injuries in that sport, too! But, he also focused on track and field and that proved to be his strength, making it to State his Junior and Senior years, throwing discus! Good luck with your decision! Not an easy call.
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 21, 2018 6:05:07 GMT -5
To me that sounds WAY too dangerous to allow him to keep on playing..
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Post by span870 on Aug 21, 2018 6:24:26 GMT -5
So the update is there will be surgery for one or the other. Either to drain the fluid or to fix the ciari malformation. I'm okay being "that" guy. He can find something else to do. As good as he is at it and as proud of him as I am when he plays, it ain't worth it. Id guess it be different if it was one thing but all piled up, he's done.
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Post by HighCotton on Aug 21, 2018 6:48:45 GMT -5
So the update is there will be surgery for one or the other. Either to drain the fluid or to fix the ciari malformation. I'm okay being "that" guy. He can find something else to do. As good as he is at it and as proud of him as I am when he plays, it ain't worth it. Id guess it be different if it was one thing but all piled up, he's done. Good deal! I would say you're making the right call!
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Post by freedomhunter on Aug 21, 2018 7:08:12 GMT -5
Most sports are dangerous in some way. I was concussed playing soccer, took several baseballs at 70mph+ and nearly ruined my ankles from basketball. But, football was always frowned upon heavily by my parents and I think for a pretty good reason as I never did anything half-way. I hope he is ok.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 7:40:34 GMT -5
Praying that all is well from the concussion. #160 seems small for high school level. Some of the kids are huge by senior. Some 6-5+' tall and over 250 with some pushing 300.
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 21, 2018 8:04:50 GMT -5
I do believe that you made the proper call. As an old timer that has seen a lot over the years I can tell you that good health is the most important of all..
God bless you guys and prayers for a speedy recovery
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Post by jbird on Aug 21, 2018 9:49:26 GMT -5
You need to ensure that the school is not doing this to other kids. There are IHSAA rules and the like they must follow...in all sports....not just football. Some coaches put the team (and their own coaching glory) before the individual and other kids may be having the same issues and not know why.
I'm glad you are getting the kid the help he needs and I think your making the right call, but this info can help prevent some other kid from turning his brain to mush as well. Start at the top - the superintendents office! You just say something to the coach....nothing will change. If they are not following IHSAA rules the school can be held liable for damages.....a lawsuit against the school corporation looks real bad for all involved.....from the schools perspective.
I had an issue with my daughter and a medical condition not related to sports....being nice wasn't working. Contacting a lawyer and talking "lawsuit" with the superintendent.....got their attention.
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Post by greghopper on Aug 21, 2018 10:17:36 GMT -5
I would think modern and correct safety gear for this sport should keep this type of injury at bay for the most part.
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