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Post by kentuckianajones on Oct 12, 2017 17:45:36 GMT -5
So what's the Indiana General Assembly's point. You can use a revolver to hunt on State Property, but you can't use a rifle that uses the same pistol ammo to hunt? A muzzleloader has a longer range than pistol ammo fired by the rifle? Sounds like the IGA needs to differentiate between pistol cartridge rifles, and standard high power rifles on State Land.
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Post by M4Madness on Oct 12, 2017 17:58:13 GMT -5
Banning them from public land was an accident, not intentional.
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Post by greghopper on Oct 12, 2017 18:14:48 GMT -5
Banning them from public land was an accident, not intentional. That message needs to been put in all their bulletins if it was a TRUE "accident" which i believe it was! |
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Post by swilk on Oct 12, 2017 18:43:58 GMT -5
I'm not so sure...
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Post by jjas on Oct 12, 2017 18:46:17 GMT -5
So what's the Indiana General Assembly's point. You can use a revolver to hunt on State Property, but you can't use a rifle that uses the same pistol ammo to hunt? A muzzleloader has a longer range than pistol ammo fired by the rifle? Sounds like the IGA needs to differentiate between pistol cartridge rifles, and standard high power rifles on State Land. Welcome to Indiana! |
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Post by hornzilla on Oct 12, 2017 19:14:10 GMT -5
So what's the Indiana General Assembly's point. You can use a revolver to hunt on State Property, but you can't use a rifle that uses the same pistol ammo to hunt? A muzzleloader has a longer range than pistol ammo fired by the rifle? Sounds like the IGA needs to differentiate between pistol cartridge rifles, and standard high power rifles on State Land. The funny thing about it. I can still use rifle rounds in my handgun on state property. This could have been as easy as .243 and up. State wide. |
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Post by jackryan on Oct 12, 2017 20:11:06 GMT -5
So what's the Indiana General Assembly's point. You can use a revolver to hunt on State Property, but you can't use a rifle that uses the same pistol ammo to hunt? A muzzleloader has a longer range than pistol ammo fired by the rifle? Sounds like the IGA needs to differentiate between pistol cartridge rifles, and standard high power rifles on State Land. The funny thing about it. I can still use rifle rounds in my handgun on state property. This could have been as easy as .243 and up. State wide. They had EASY for decades. The new kids didn't like easy. |
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Post by Squealy on Oct 13, 2017 9:35:10 GMT -5
Banning them from public land was an accident, not intentional. If that's true (that it was an accident), i don't truly believe it is, it can be fixed with an Executive ORDER.... So why hasn't there been an Executive Order?  ? |
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Post by deadeer on Oct 13, 2017 10:14:43 GMT -5
With the DNR sending out the e-mail confirming the snafuu, I bet it would be highly unlikely anything gets changed now. That would be an even greater cluster bomb!
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Post by span870 on Oct 14, 2017 7:17:11 GMT -5
I do believe 100% that it was an accident in the wording. You read it, it reads rifles. Doubt anyone thought pcr's to be rifles. Here's why it don't get changed. Have you ever known a politician to admit that they were wrong. It'll be reworded next year and brushed under the rug, no admit of fault of anyone. What I don't like is the blowback it had caused. Seen it at work too many times. You give something, one thing happens and guys start complaining what about this or that, and it gets taken away from everyone. Isn't going to effect me a whole lot since I put very little effort into deer hunting. I just like carrying a rifle. Coming from Pennsylvania it just seems like the right thing to do while you deer hunt.
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Post by 10point on Oct 14, 2017 7:22:25 GMT -5
Span. Where your from in PA? I just inherited a Remington 760 270 which is a pump rifle that was very popular in PA. My dad is from Armstrong county
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Post by js2397 on Oct 14, 2017 7:51:35 GMT -5
I do believe 100% that it was an accident in the wording. You read it, it reads rifles. Doubt anyone thought pcr's to be rifles. Here's why it don't get changed. Have you ever known a politician to admit that they were wrong. It'll be reworded next year and brushed under the rug, no admit of fault of anyone. What I don't like is the blowback it had caused. Seen it at work too many times. You give something, one thing happens and guys start complaining what about this or that, and it gets taken away from everyone. Isn't going to effect me a whole lot since I put very little effort into deer hunting. I just like carrying a rifle. Coming from Pennsylvania it just seems like the right thing to do while you deer hunt. The authors of the bill already admitted that it was a mistake. They said it was reviewed by many different departments and nobody caught the mistake and they will do their best to fix it brfore November 18th. |
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Post by span870 on Oct 14, 2017 8:23:16 GMT -5
Span. Where your from in PA? I just inherited a Remington 760 270 which is a pump rifle that was very popular in PA. My dad is from Armstrong county Bit north of Harrisburg. Schuylkill county. I'm actually going to take my grandpa's 760 270 with and ol Weaver fixed 4 power scope out for a walk this year on opening day. Took me forever and a day to find the magazine for it but it's been found. That gun dropped many a doe and forkhorn buck outta the fields during deer drives and the days of party hunting back in the day and way before antler restrictions. Zero recoil pad and a layer of hoppes you could probably scrape off with a knife and fry some eggs in. |
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Post by 10point on Oct 14, 2017 8:30:18 GMT -5
The wood stock on my 760 was in perfect condition so I replaced it with plastic. Didn't want to scratch it up.
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Post by span870 on Oct 14, 2017 8:41:29 GMT -5
Mine is extremely well used and worn. Not neglected but you can tell it was a used tool
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Post by omegahunter on Oct 14, 2017 13:26:22 GMT -5
I do believe 100% that it was an accident in the wording. You read it, it reads rifles. Doubt anyone thought pcr's to be rifles. Here's why it don't get changed. Have you ever known a politician to admit that they were wrong. It'll be reworded next year and brushed under the rug, no admit of fault of anyone. What I don't like is the blowback it had caused. Seen it at work too many times. You give something, one thing happens and guys start complaining what about this or that, and it gets taken away from everyone. Isn't going to effect me a whole lot since I put very little effort into deer hunting. I just like carrying a rifle. Coming from Pennsylvania it just seems like the right thing to do while you deer hunt. The authors of the bill already admitted that it was a mistake. They said it was reviewed by many different departments and nobody caught the mistake and they will do their best to fix it brfore November 18th. The new rifle rule was written to be separate from the center fire rifle already on the books. It has a sunset date in it. Does anyone think the center fire rifles will no longer be able to be used if the rifle law expires without becoming permanent? No. So why do people think that the land restriction of the trial rifle law pertains to the center fires? Or allowable round count? The only thing that was revised this year was the cartridge definition of rifle that was formally just .24 and .30 calibers. Center fire rifle cartridge definition is still law. IAC law, but still law. The new rifle IC was not intended to be cross-applied to existing laws. It is a new trial law for additional rifles. The mistake is the cross-application of the laws. |
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