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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Aug 8, 2017 16:25:34 GMT -5
If you really want to know, read Isaiah 24. www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+24&version=NKJVThere are SO MANY fulfilled prophecies written in the Bible that the odds are astronomically ridiculous that this book was NOT written by a divine hand. I've said many times that I do not see how any statistician would not believe that the Bible is indeed the word of God. Well, what about the letters that were not included in the canon of the Bible? I think this comes down to believing in the supreme sovereignty of God. If he IS, wouldn't he leave us the exact map that he wanted us to follow? Isaiah 24 tells of God's plan for the earth in its destruction. This is coming and very soon in the Tribulation. We do not have decades left let alone hundreds or thousands of years. We have a few years at best, and he could just as easily come today. No one knows the exact day or hour. I think we can have a good idea what year, and certainly know what season in time it is. This is the season. Until I hear with God's own voice telling me when he's coming to remove his from this earth, I will not know no matter how much I study or how many signs I see. I'll certainly let you know if he tells me. He did tell Noah, 7 days before the floods came, so maybe he will tell someone ...not thinking this will be me. In a different chapter in Isiah God says that he will move the earth from its place ...a pole shift to some degree. This alone will cause unimaginable damage. One phrase made my ears perk: Isiah 24:5 The earth is also defiled under its inhabitants,Because they have transgressed the laws, Changed the ordinance, Broken the everlasting covenant.This generation "world wide" has called good evil and evil good. What was good is heavily criticized and even prosecuted in places.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Aug 8, 2017 17:29:09 GMT -5
Another interesting verse is Isiah 24:20: Isaiah 24:20New (NKJV) The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, And shall totter like a hut; Its transgression shall be heavy upon it, And it will fall, and not rise again.
I'm guessing that this will happen as a result of the pole shift. People will see the sun start to set, but come back the other way. They won't know what season it is let alone the time of day.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Aug 8, 2017 17:57:45 GMT -5
Here's another good one: Isiah 24:21-22 21 It shall come to pass in that day That the Lord will punish on high the host of exalted ones, And on the earth the kings of the earth. 22 They will be gathered together, As prisoners are gathered in the pit, And will be shut up in the prison; After many days they will be punished.
My guess is that these are the rich and rulers of this world who have bunkers. They sure sound like bunkers to me. They might protect for a while from a nuke, but God ...he's going to get them too.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Aug 8, 2017 18:01:01 GMT -5
...as duff would say, "I'm ate up."
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Aug 8, 2017 18:35:39 GMT -5
...as duff would say, "I'm ate up." I'll second that.
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Post by jackryan on Aug 8, 2017 22:39:50 GMT -5
What's the weather going to be Saturday?
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Aug 9, 2017 8:29:26 GMT -5
What's the weather going to be Saturday? I'll have to see if we make it that far, so I'll get back with you Sat. morning.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Aug 9, 2017 9:04:55 GMT -5
Many prophecies have still yet to be fulfilled. I heard a guy say recently that there are still 500 unfulfilled prophecies. Skepticism isn't my first nature, but did he actually count them? I'd quickly run out of appendages. From what I've read, many of them repeat as in referring to the same event, but said differently. Of course, when the dam breaks, they'll just come flooding through in a short period of time.
Isiah speaks of Israel's expansion. It says that 5 cities in Egypt will speak the language of Canaan. They'll speak Hebrew. Isiah 19:18. Personally, I think this will happen relatively soon as within the next 5 years. The war with their neighbors is the next big one. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if this starts sooner than later. Israel will suffer greatly in this war, but will gain territory again.
At this same time, I believe as these bordering nations are never mentioned again, that Damascus will become a ruinous heap. Isiah 17:1 “Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city, And it will be a ruinous heap. This happens overnight. Syria is a bordering nation.
The reason I think this is the next big war for them is that the big one after it is Gog from the land of Magog. This is were God puts a hook in the mouth of this king of the far north and brings him back to attack Israel. Many nations come with him, Iran being among them, but none of the bordering nations are mentioned here. If they could, they certainly would jump at the opportunity to join in the expected slaughter. I don't think they are anymore, and if they are they aren't sovereign.
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Post by jackryan on Aug 9, 2017 12:05:14 GMT -5
When someone can tell me what the weather is going to be one week from the day I ask them, and they get it right two times in a row, I'll start paying attention to them about all that other stuff like world events, the stock market, lotto, salvation, turning to salt, meteors...
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Aug 10, 2017 12:58:18 GMT -5
I do not doubt that you feel this way Jack, and many do.
Do keep in mind that none of this is me talking or any other student of prophecy. These are the spoken words of God through the prophets. We can speculate on the order as I just did with data and rational thought, but it's still speculation. These events WILL happen if God is God ...and this is really the question for us.
Thomas had to see it with his own eyes even though Jesus told them (prophesied)that he would be put to death and rise in three days. Many still have to see to believe, and this is my fear for those not taken in the rapture. They will see with their own eyes the great delusion. I'm diligently trying to warn them. I do not expect them to believe me now, but when they see these things that were told in advance, maybe, just maybe, they will believe and not lose their eternal soul.
When I read it, I believe it; I do not have to see it. God has given me this gift of faith; it's nothing of myself. However, I have also seen with my own eyes prophecy being fulfilled. I believed before I saw it, but it was just blind faith. It also takes this same blind faith to be one of His in the first place.
As far as watching for His return as he promised, He told us to watch. There is a crown of reward for those who do, so it is a good thing to do. I do not do it or anything for a crown; it is my Job, my calling. Who really desires to be rejected, despised, called crazy, expose themselves to harsh criticism??? Who? I think they would be crazy to desire it.
Again, I do it in the hope that just one will wake up before the rapture, or remember and not believe the lie. One soul is worth all the persecution, rejection and even death of many. I will freely subject myself to it and give my life for it.
God is crying out, and these are His words through the prophet Isiah: Isiah 51:9 Awake Awake!... Isiah 51:17 Awake Awake!... Isiah 52:1 Awake Awake!... Isaiah 51:21 Therefore PLEASE HEAR THIS, you afflicted, And drunk but not with wine.
God is crying out and pleading, but no, people will not listen or believe until they see and it is upon them.
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Post by jackryan on Aug 10, 2017 16:31:12 GMT -5
What ever.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Aug 10, 2017 16:55:59 GMT -5
You may not be the one who will awaken or hear. I'll keep reaching out to someone.
I can convince no one. If God doesn't knock on their heart, they won't get saved. If God doesn't open their eye, they will remained closed ...no matter what I do or say. It's out of my hands. It's just my responsibility to keep witnessing.
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Post by freedomhunter on Aug 10, 2017 17:11:57 GMT -5
You may not be the one who will awaken or hear. I'll keep reaching out to someone. I can convince no one. If God doesn't knock on their heart, they won't get saved. If God doesn't open their eye, they will remained closed ...no matter what I do or say. It's out of my hands. It's just my responsibility to keep witnessing. Maybe tone it down some. Just saying about the prophecy stuff you are reaching and that is not good as we are told.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Aug 10, 2017 19:36:18 GMT -5
You may not be the one who will awaken or hear. I'll keep reaching out to someone. I can convince no one. If God doesn't knock on their heart, they won't get saved. If God doesn't open their eye, they will remained closed ...no matter what I do or say. It's out of my hands. It's just my responsibility to keep witnessing. Maybe tone it down some. Just saying about the prophecy stuff you are reaching and that is not good as we are told. Freedomhunter, you may be on to something. Sometimes it has to hit me like a mac truck for me to see it. It doesn't seem that anyone really cares about the prophecy here. Maybe it is time for me to shake the dust from my boots and look for a more appropriate place. Reaching??? I'm not sure what this means. I may have used the wrong term. Do you mean my speculation on sequence or time? Nothing wrong with speculation, not even in the hard-line scientific world. It's always based on data and rational thought as I have done. Date setting or saying one knows something that they don't would be bad. Thinking is always good. Thanks for helping me realize this.
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Post by jackryan on Aug 10, 2017 20:15:09 GMT -5
Maybe tone it down some. Just saying about the prophecy stuff you are reaching and that is not good as we are told. Freedomhunter, you may be on to something. Sometimes it has to hit me like a mac truck for me to see it. It doesn't seem that anyone really cares about the prophecy here. Maybe it is time for me to shake the dust from my boots and look for a more appropriate place. Reaching??? I'm not sure what this means. I may have used the wrong term. Do you mean my speculation on sequence or time? Nothing wrong with speculation, not even in the hard-line scientific world. It's always based on data and rational thought as I have done. Date setting or saying one knows something that they don't would be bad. Thinking is always good. Thanks for helping me realize this. May be we just don't believe you are a prophet, but don't want to hurt your feelings.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 20:34:51 GMT -5
Snow, you know that I differ a little from the Bible and stuff. But you know I'm now one spiritual person and was once a religions man, but not anymore. I have learned from experience and the gospel that all religions are man-made. Jesus, never stated to create this religions or that religion. He instructed to go out live and preach the good word. The devil created the religions and holy wars. You are right on Sept 23 the stars are aligned, but that happens every 7000 years. So the question is; is this the year or is it the next 7000 years. Who knows! I like the eclipse coming up. We have two eclipses every year, one sun and one moon somewhere in the world. Nothing new. I wish and speak-out that everyone in this world is Sacred ( Life is Sacred) and contains the Holy Spirit. If this was understand and practiced there would be no evil. Someday our forefathers will understand this I pray. Being a good person does not require to read the bible, the Sumerian scrolls, Enoch tables and all the other. It is so easy. If everyone treated life (conception) as Holy and Sacred, all would change. Throw the other crap out the window. To understand where I am coming from: Search and Read: Peace be with you. Putting the good word is great, but teaching spirituality and life being Sacred and Holy is what we need. With N. Korea- more than ever. There is some good evil vs evil.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Aug 10, 2017 20:37:15 GMT -5
Freedomhunter, you may be on to something. Sometimes it has to hit me like a mac truck for me to see it. It doesn't seem that anyone really cares about the prophecy here. Maybe it is time for me to shake the dust from my boots and look for a more appropriate place. Reaching??? I'm not sure what this means. I may have used the wrong term. Do you mean my speculation on sequence or time? Nothing wrong with speculation, not even in the hard-line scientific world. It's always based on data and rational thought as I have done. Date setting or saying one knows something that they don't would be bad. Thinking is always good. Thanks for helping me realize this. May be we just don't believe you are a prophet, but don't want to hurt your feelings. I wouldn't say that I am or want any to think that i am.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 20:38:49 GMT -5
A man of wisdom!!!
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Aug 10, 2017 21:48:48 GMT -5
People want to hear warm and fuzzy words, the feel good preaching, God loves everyone and will save everyone. Just be good and have fun, eat, drink and be merry we all love each other. God wants you to be happy. This is the lukewarm church of today.
2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires,
There is hot, lukewarm and cold mentioned in Revelation. We should know where we fit in and what the plan is for us. I don't know any man's heart condition, but apples will fall from an apple tree. We can see a man's fruit if there is any.
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