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Post by duff on Jul 23, 2017 21:05:50 GMT -5
sounds fun
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Post by esshup on Jul 27, 2017 9:08:20 GMT -5
throback, if you are looking at a seine, get one with a mud line on the bottom, you want the seine to be a couple feet taller than the deepest part of the pond, and you want it to be about 10'-15' longer than the pond is wide. Pull it slowly, making sure the bottom is in front of the top, and having a flat panel on top to prevent them from jumping over the net is preferred.
Any obstructions in the bottom of the pond will allow the bottom of the seine to ride up, and the fish will scoot under the net.....
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Post by salt on Jul 27, 2017 13:53:57 GMT -5
I'm interested in getting some tilapia. I live in northeast Indiana. I've lost control of my pond. It's covered in Lyngbya. Both pond management companies have told me that it is probably too late in the year to treat. They recommend doing what I can with copper and then signing on with them for treatment next spring. Other than that the only other vegetation in the pond is potted Lilly pads. Would Tilapia help with this problem? Would they ruin my Lilly pass? Is it to late in the year to introduce?
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Tilapia
Jul 27, 2017 15:58:38 GMT -5
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Post by throbak on Jul 27, 2017 15:58:38 GMT -5
I don't know about that stuff but their staying on top of my filemetous algae they must eat it as fast as it devolobes I'm satisfied I Jane 14acre and put around 200 in it
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Post by nfalls116 on Jul 27, 2017 16:06:35 GMT -5
I don't know about that stuff but their staying on top of my filemetous algae they must eat it as fast as it develops I'm satisfied I have 1/4 acre and put around 200 in it
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Post by esshup on Jul 27, 2017 17:57:27 GMT -5
Salt:
What fish are in there? I need to know before recommending a treatment for it. How big is the pond?
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Post by salt on Jul 27, 2017 19:58:47 GMT -5
3/4 acre. Bluegill and bass.
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Post by esshup on Jul 28, 2017 9:51:29 GMT -5
First I'd take a secchi disk, white 5 gal bucket lid or something else pure white and sink it into the pond to see how far down you can see it. Tie a line to it so you can measure how far below the water surface it is. Once you have that measurement, add about 18" to 24" to that. That measurement will tell you the water depth that it will grow at, from shoreline out to that water depth.
Lyngbya is difficult to control, but it CAN be done. If the water depth that it grows at is less than 36", I would use 4-8 oz of Cutrine Plus Liquid per gallon of water, along with 1 oz. of Cygent Plus Surfactant but so many other variables are involved. Lynngbya could have become chemically resistant like pithophora thus you may try to mix in Reward at 4 0zs/gallon and try that. Of course this makes things much more expensive.
If the water depth is more than 36" where it grows, I would treat the area with Cutrine Plus granules, at the rate of 20 pounds per surface acre of treatment. Spread that out as evenly as possible at that rate over the area where the algae grows.
If that doesn't do the trick, (and you would see results within a day or two) I would hit it with Hydrothol 191 liquid mixed at the rate of 3 pints per 2 gallons of water and apply that amount per acre foot of water (325,851 gallons of water) from shoreline out to the water depth that you determined it wouldn't grow. Now with Hydrothol 191, you have to be more careful on how much you apply because it is toxic to fish at over 0.3 ppm. 3.6 pints of Hydrothol 191 per acre foot of water is 0.3 ppm.
Here's how to calculate how many gallons of water you have to treat, which will allow you to figure out how many acre feet of water you will be treating.
Take the shoreline distance, x the distance out from shore x half the water depth that you calculated. All measurements are in feet. That should give you the cubic feet of water you have to treat. Take that number and multiply that by 7.48. That will give you the gallons of water. Take that number and divide it by 325,851. That will give you the acre feet of water you are going to treat. Treat the water spraying from shoreline out, not from the deepest water to the shoreline. That will allow the fish in shallow water to swim to deeper water away from the chemical, and not trap them against the shoreline.
As to where to get the chemicals, I will send you a private message.
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Post by riverrat77 on Aug 1, 2017 21:25:39 GMT -5
First I'd take a secchi disk, white 5 gal bucket lid or something else pure white and sink it into the pond to see how far down you can see it. Tie a line to it so you can measure how far below the water surface it is. Once you have that measurement, add about 18" to 24" to that. That measurement will tell you the water depth that it will grow at, from shoreline out to that water depth. Lyngbya is difficult to control, but it CAN be done. If the water depth that it grows at is less than 36", I would use 4-8 oz of Cutrine Plus Liquid per gallon of water, along with 1 oz. of Cygent Plus Surfactant but so many other variables are involved. Lynngbya could have become chemically resistant like pithophora thus you may try to mix in Reward at 4 0zs/gallon and try that. Of course this makes things much more expensive. If the water depth is more than 36" where it grows, I would treat the area with Cutrine Plus granules, at the rate of 20 pounds per surface acre of treatment. Spread that out as evenly as possible at that rate over the area where the algae grows. If that doesn't do the trick, (and you would see results within a day or two) I would hit it with Hydrothol 191 liquid mixed at the rate of 3 pints per 2 gallons of water and apply that amount per acre foot of water (325,851 gallons of water) from shoreline out to the water depth that you determined it wouldn't grow. Now with Hydrothol 191, you have to be more careful on how much you apply because it is toxic to fish at over 0.3 ppm. 3.6 pints of Hydrothol 191 per acre foot of water is 0.3 ppm. Here's how to calculate how many gallons of water you have to treat, which will allow you to figure out how many acre feet of water you will be treating. Take the shoreline distance, x the distance out from shore x half the water depth that you calculated. All measurements are in feet. That should give you the cubic feet of water you have to treat. Take that number and multiply that by 7.48. That will give you the gallons of water. Take that number and divide it by 325,851. That will give you the acre feet of water you are going to treat. Treat the water spraying from shoreline out, not from the deepest water to the shoreline. That will allow the fish in shallow water to swim to deeper water away from the chemical, and not trap them against the shoreline. As to where to get the chemicals, I will send you a private message. That's a lot of math there
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Tilapia
Aug 1, 2017 23:41:19 GMT -5
Post by esshup on Aug 1, 2017 23:41:19 GMT -5
Yeah, but to get the PPM right and not kill fish you gotta do the math. Guessing and going by eye won't cut it with some things, and Hydrothol 191 is one of those things. Been there, done that and had to replace some fish. Not because I had the dosage wrong, but because I applied it from deep water to shallow water, trapping fish in the shallows.
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