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Post by Woody Williams on May 23, 2017 17:13:16 GMT -5
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Post by throbak on May 23, 2017 20:54:04 GMT -5
Anyone that has read anything I've posted knows I don't care for killing something just to be killing it
Killing coyotes when they have pups is cruel and doesn't necessarily improve anything but desirable habitats for the transients Preditor control is not going to make up for bad habitats I don't worry about them I have all the deer I want
We get along
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Post by boonechaser on May 23, 2017 21:42:56 GMT -5
Our area was getting overrun with yotes. Took out 6 myself (4 males, 2 females-both pregnant). To busy right now but once get caught up on hay plan on trapping some more over summer.
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Post by firstwd on May 24, 2017 6:45:39 GMT -5
Truthfully speaking, a predator will not "overrun" an area. Their birth rates are proportionate to the mortality rate and available food minus natural distribution.
In other words, the areas with the highest available food will have the highest predator population. Where the issue arises is in competition for said food sources, or basically our comfort with their numbers.
That is exactly how the live market guys I know we're taking 100+ coyote every year off of the same pieces of ground. The annual surviving numbers of coyotes were well below proportional levels for available food and their spiring birth rates were always high to compensate. That is also the reason there was so many reports of coyotes in new and urban areas immediately following the shut down of the live market trade. The birth rates were still running high so dispersal was forced to be the tool used to keep numbers proportionate to available food.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 7:01:54 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of yotes, because yotes are non-native to our area and should be eradicated. We should also help restore all native plants and animals.
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Post by firstwd on May 24, 2017 7:13:24 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of yotes, because yotes are non-native to our area and should be eradicated. We should also help restore all native plants and animals. I'm all for restoration, but not everybody is going to be a fan of free roaming bison, elk, black bears, Eastern Timber wolves, and you know their gonna just love a sizable population of mountain lions. |
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Post by greghopper on May 24, 2017 7:14:55 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of yotes, because yotes are non-native to our area and should be eradicated. We should also help restore all native plants and animals. Where do you live that coyotes are "non-native" ? The coyote is a canid native to North America. |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 7:20:54 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of yotes, because yotes are non-native to our area and should be eradicated. We should also help restore all native plants and animals. Where do you live that coyotes are "non-native" ? The coyote is a canid native to North America. Only to the western states, not Indiana. |
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Post by greghopper on May 24, 2017 7:23:59 GMT -5
You may want to check your facts and do some research..... Wayne's
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Post by greghopper on May 24, 2017 7:27:30 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 7:30:29 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of yotes, because yotes are non-native to our area and should be eradicated. We should also help restore all native plants and animals. I'm all for restoration, but not everybody is going to be a fan of free roaming bison, elk, black bears, Eastern Timber wolves, and you know their gonna just love a sizable population of mountain lions. I'll take your list over the wild bore, gypsy moth, Emerald ash borer, Asian carp. Look how well the elk are prospering in KY. Do you remember all the hateful negative comments when the idea was brought up in KY. It would be a great thing to see those animals back. The fear of the unknown is a destroyer of great thing to come. |
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Post by span870 on May 24, 2017 7:30:51 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of yotes, because yotes are non-native to our area and should be eradicated. We should also help restore all native plants and animals. I'd assume you'd be fine with wolves instead? |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 7:32:59 GMT -5
You may want to check your facts and do some research..... Wayne's Your right, but very uncommon and rare. My bad. I guess the numbers need to in check. Thanks. |
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Post by span870 on May 24, 2017 7:34:02 GMT -5
Said it before and I'll say it again, get blamed for way more than they actually do. We manage a species for what fits our goals not what nature intended. Coyotes and wolves and been around for eons. Not at one point in the history of ever have they eliminated a species and they've been eating meat from day one. Now man on the other hand...
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 7:37:52 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of yotes, because yotes are non-native to our area and should be eradicated. We should also help restore all native plants and animals. I'd assume you'd be fine with wolves instead? Yes, I am fine with all and do understand it would change deer hunting drastically. Mankind has lived with these animals for eons. Only in the glimpse of time that we have not. |
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Post by span870 on May 24, 2017 7:41:54 GMT -5
You just contradicted yourself. You are fine with eradicating coyotes because they are rare but not wolves because nature has lived with them for eons. Didn't she with coyotes too. Lost here.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 7:50:31 GMT -5
You just contradicted yourself. You are fine with eradicating coyotes because they are rare but not wolves because nature has lived with them for eons. Didn't she with coyotes too. Lost here. I thought coyotes where non-native. I was wrong, so I'm okay with them. I'm for native plants and animals, and against non-native plants and animals. Greghopper helped me out. |
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Post by span870 on May 24, 2017 8:01:33 GMT -5
You just contradicted yourself. You are fine with eradicating coyotes because they are rare but not wolves because nature has lived with them for eons. Didn't she with coyotes too. Lost here. I thought coyotes where non-native. I was wrong, so I'm okay with them. I'm for native plants and animals, and against non-native plants and animals. Greghopper helped me out. Just for fun. How about cows, horses, and chickens? |
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Post by nfalls116 on May 24, 2017 9:44:32 GMT -5
I thought coyotes where non-native. I was wrong, so I'm okay with them. I'm for native plants and animals, and against non-native plants and animals. Greghopper helped me out. Just for fun. How about cows, horses, and chickens? Get rid of them.. we can't have their fences slowing animals down and spreading diseases ... also all pheasant |
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Post by span870 on May 24, 2017 12:39:13 GMT -5
Just for fun. How about cows, horses, and chickens? Get rid of them.. we can't have their fences slowing animals down and spreading diseases ... also all pheasant According to another page the turkeys are out there killing all the pheasants and quail so in due time. |
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