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Post by greghopper on Apr 5, 2017 18:19:51 GMT -5
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Post by 76chevy on Apr 5, 2017 18:21:33 GMT -5
eating bologna sandwiches is how you save for hunting land!
I like how Jack Ryan thinks. Cash is king. You have strong negotiating power when you can pay cash.
I sell research equipment to hospitals and universities. The individual units are priced from $150k to $600k. When a customer will be purchasing in cash, they have much more leverage than leasing or financing. Usually end up with a much better deal.
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Post by 76chevy on Apr 5, 2017 18:21:47 GMT -5
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Post by wesb81219 on Apr 5, 2017 18:31:05 GMT -5
What kind of bread and fixins? Fried nice and crispy on white bread with mustard
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Post by jackryan on Apr 5, 2017 21:29:34 GMT -5
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Post by swilk on Apr 6, 2017 5:32:23 GMT -5
I don't see where anyone said that hilly wooded ground can't be found for under $3k an acre....
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Post by tynimiller on Apr 6, 2017 7:28:45 GMT -5
Oh no doubt. Shoot there are spots in the state where one can grab a serious amount of land for sub $3K/Acre...but no one has said it doesn't exist in the hill country. Personally I'd rather have a little less topography and pay more though. My brother lives down in Odon, IN and I've always loved and was amazed at the cost of woods/hills down there not in the flatland...crazy cheap.
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Post by nfalls116 on Apr 6, 2017 7:58:03 GMT -5
Bet you won't find super cheap land near me especially not if it's close to the wabash sugar creek unless they are selling it by the 500+acre lot
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Post by boonechaser on Apr 6, 2017 10:31:17 GMT -5
I moved to a adjoining county 13 years ago just for the deer hunting. Drive 35-40 min's to work now instead of 5, but in those 13 years I've killed 9 bucks over 120", my biggest last season 165". (Not to mention 30 or so doe's.) Did my homework and made the move and trying to accumulate more land as we speak. If it was easy I guess everyone would be doing it...
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Post by 76chevy on Apr 6, 2017 19:37:32 GMT -5
anybody enroll land in the classified forest program?
What are the rules of the program? Tax advantages?
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Post by swilk on Apr 6, 2017 20:20:06 GMT -5
Tax advantages being the biggest...I believe it is $5 per year regardless of acreage.
Disadvantages are it's basically recreational ground at that point. No building. No clearing. No cutting.
You can pay estimated back taxes (10 years worth) to get it out of the program if you wish.
Seriously considering putting mine in...Even though mine is wrp it's still zoned AG which makes my taxes high but allows my kids to hunt without buying a license but there is no way potential license cost savings equals what taxes cost me each year.
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Apr 6, 2017 20:55:04 GMT -5
I may have to look into this classified forest program a little more.
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Post by barton174 on Apr 7, 2017 11:17:07 GMT -5
Tax advantages being the biggest...I believe it is $5 per year regardless of acreage. Disadvantages are it's basically recreational ground at that point. No building. No clearing. No cutting. You can pay estimated back taxes (10 years worth) to get it out of the program if you wish. Seriously considering putting mine in...Even though mine is wrp it's still zoned AG which makes my taxes high but allows my kids to hunt without buying a license but there is no way potential license cost savings equals what taxes cost me each year. No cutting?? www.in.gov/dnr/forestry/4595.htmClassified forest is specifically set aside for timber. My grandparents have 460-ish acres, and 300-ish of it, IIRC, is in classified forest (basically anything that's not directly around the house, or pasture that the neighbors lease for hay). It gets light-selective cut in an alternating "round" and TSI (timber stand improvement) done all the time. As long as you aren't clear-cutting it, and have a timber plan (if you're cutting it) that the state deems above the "minimum standards of good timber management" then you're good. Mike
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Post by popcornridgevevay on Apr 7, 2017 11:41:23 GMT -5
I put 32 of my 46 acres in classified forest. It is a very easy process but does cost around $300 for a licensed surveyor to plot out the classified forest. Taxes are around $2 per acre per year verses the higher. You can still timber your trees. Restrictions include cattle can be in the woods and you can not build a home or barn. Great deal!!
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Post by swilk on Apr 7, 2017 11:55:53 GMT -5
You can still timber trees on WRP land too but have to have approval in order to do so ... I guess I should have clarified.
Im interested in the $2 per acre per year thing .... I just bought about 18 acres that are in Classified Forest and the taxes are $5 per year total.
The 21 acres that border it are also in Classified Forest and taxes are $5 per year total.
The 48 acres that border that are also in Classified Forest and taxes are $5 per year total.
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Post by tynimiller on Apr 7, 2017 13:03:32 GMT -5
Tax advantages being the biggest...I believe it is $5 per year regardless of acreage. Disadvantages are it's basically recreational ground at that point. No building. No clearing. No cutting. You can pay estimated back taxes (10 years worth) to get it out of the program if you wish. Seriously considering putting mine in...Even though mine is wrp it's still zoned AG which makes my taxes high but allows my kids to hunt without buying a license but there is no way potential license cost savings equals what taxes cost me each year. Last we were informed by the State, that backed years may have been dropped to 3 or 5. Have to dig to find out and get copy of change if so. Working in the Assessing world, there are some bogus none classified "loopholes" for lack of a better term which Assessors have to than grant Agricultural land rates to portions not developed on your property...which is the lowest land way of assessing currently. My 22+ acres I bought are not assessed as AG for the 2016 assessment year, however I since have a designed Stewardship Plan enacted on my property which is outlined and includes goals, objectives, yearly timber expectations and actions to preserve and protect the wildlife and habitat present. This will get AG values applied in 2017 payable 2018 and my taxes will drop from around $1000 to less than $300 for the year. All the while not causing me to have to put any of it into actual classified land with the DNR. I still may do that as I don't plan on EVER building anywhere except one or two spots which I would leave out of the enrollment but still may not as much easier to dump and unload or sell land without anything like that in place unless to another habitat guy or like minded individual.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Apr 7, 2017 14:06:08 GMT -5
I just want to know if I can legally hunt property that gets tax payer subsidies??? I need some more good places.
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