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Post by swilk on Feb 16, 2017 8:41:40 GMT -5
According to the DNR email the group would be pretty diverse if actually followed .... but just following the list will be difficult and if they actually do follow it I have a feeling that the input received will not be what they imagine it will be.
In addition to local hunters, CDACs are expected to include representation from agriculture, forestry, local government, tourism, transportation, non-consumptive users, and a disease monitoring organization.
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Post by greghopper on Feb 16, 2017 9:19:34 GMT -5
"expected" is the key word..... since it's not DNR ran you may expect/see different results.
The survey they are using that can be taken by any one anywhere will have interesting results also!
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Post by henson59 on Feb 16, 2017 9:40:19 GMT -5
They have said that getting the CDAC's was their primary goal and they will report what the people want. I think in their mind they believe they are with the majority and their views, wants, and wishes will prevail in the end. It would be pretty interesting if the majority of people that actually showed up to these meetings supported the late anterless season and depredation tags. How would the IWDHM respond then?
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Post by trapperdave on Feb 16, 2017 9:59:42 GMT -5
They'd kick em out, of course lol
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Post by jjas on Feb 16, 2017 10:20:29 GMT -5
As time goes on I think this group will abandon the late antlerless season as the source of their ire and look @ ways to implement a statewide bag limit of 2-3 deer per hunter and trying to get the firearms seasons shortened and moved.
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Post by greghopper on Feb 16, 2017 11:11:33 GMT -5
As time goes on I think this group will abandon the late antlerless season as the source of their ire and look @ ways to implement a statewide bag limit of 2-3 deer per hunter and trying to get the firearms seasons shortened and moved. There not many within there group that want to move or shorten any season... there are plenty that want state wide bag limit though.
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Post by jjas on Feb 16, 2017 11:23:40 GMT -5
GregHopper
I wouldn't count on the "I don't want to move the gun season" mantra continuing from this group. My understanding is that a few of the more "vocal" individuals that were pushing prop 1 hard, have been "counseling" this group in an attempt to finally push their agenda through while trying to sell it to IWDHM as the quickest/easiest way to "save the does" when in reality, they just don't want the guns in the November woods killing "their" bucks.
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Post by greghopper on Feb 16, 2017 14:16:02 GMT -5
There will be a must more divided group if and when they go down that road same with the OBR.
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Post by tynimiller on Feb 16, 2017 14:29:14 GMT -5
There will be a must more divided group if and when they go down that road same with the OBR. I agree with this...if that can is opened they will see their "follower" count drastically cut into...
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Post by greghopper on Mar 1, 2017 8:16:17 GMT -5
Heard Bryan Poynter (chairman for NRC) on a talk radio program on sat confirm the CDAC is a pilot program not sponsored by the DNR.
Also Heard from sources that the DNR has advised its people to not attend these meetings with out prior approval.
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Post by Woody Williams on Mar 1, 2017 9:32:44 GMT -5
Heard Bryan Poynter (chairman for NRC) on a talk radio program on sat confirm the CDAC is a pilot program not sponsored by the DNR. Also Heard from sources that the DNR has advised its people to not attend these meetings with out prior approval. I "think " there has been a couple CDAC meetings. Anyone on here attend one?
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Post by tynimiller on Mar 1, 2017 9:37:30 GMT -5
Heard Bryan Poynter (chairman for NRC) on a talk radio program on sat confirm the CDAC is a pilot program not sponsored by the DNR. Also Heard from sources that the DNR has advised its people to not attend these meetings with out prior approval. I do know a local CO attended the Wabash one (I believe Wabash).
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Post by greghopper on Mar 1, 2017 9:41:43 GMT -5
Heard Bryan Poynter (chairman for NRC) on a talk radio program on sat confirm the CDAC is a pilot program not sponsored by the DNR. Also Heard from sources that the DNR has advised its people to not attend these meetings with out prior approval. I do know a local CO attended the Wabash one (I believe Wabash). I could see where a CO would be approved.... that's a no Brainer!
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Post by tynimiller on Mar 1, 2017 9:43:47 GMT -5
I do know a local CO attended the Wabash one (I believe Wabash). I could see where a CO would be approved.... that's a no Brainer! Yeah, didn't say much in the video I saw, more or less a good place to have one to answer any questions pertaining to just laws and such. Any facetime with hunters/fisherman is a good thing for COs
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Post by jjas on Mar 1, 2017 10:06:41 GMT -5
While I can appreciate what some of the members are trying to accomplish...the name calling and personal attacks exhibited by some of the group's leadership is unnecessary and IMO undermines the group's credibility.
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Post by tynimiller on Mar 1, 2017 10:27:52 GMT -5
While I can appreciate what some of the members are trying to accomplish...the name calling and personal attacks exhibited by some of the group's leadership is unnecessary and IMO undermines the group's credibility. Exactly. I've had my own Small Acre page littered with meme's and photoshopped inappropriate images of Woody and I posted to the page by Mr. Walters. Honestly, a lot of what they want I'm 100% fine with...but the inability to act mature wears me down. Now to be very clear, I've never personally had an issue with most of them..shoot the majority of them, even some in "leadership positions". In the end if folks don't feel like there is ways to communicate with the DNR about their concerns already and they want to join this group or be a part of the CDACs more power to you.
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Mar 1, 2017 10:48:02 GMT -5
Heard Bryan Poynter (chairman for NRC) on a talk radio program on sat confirm the CDAC is a pilot program not sponsored by the DNR. Also Heard from sources that the DNR has advised its people to not attend these meetings with out prior approval. I "think " there has been a couple CDAC meetings. Anyone on here attend one? The video of a meeting was on Facebook.
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Post by tynimiller on Mar 1, 2017 10:50:29 GMT -5
I "think " there has been a couple CDAC meetings. Anyone on here attend one? The video of a meeting was on Facebook. Yup it still is as far as I know. Wabash believe.
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Post by GS1 on Mar 1, 2017 11:27:10 GMT -5
According to the DNR email the group would be pretty diverse if actually followed .... but just following the list will be difficult and if they actually do follow it I have a feeling that the input received will not be what they imagine it will be. In addition to local hunters, CDACs are expected to include representation from agriculture, forestry, local government, tourism, transportation, non-consumptive users, and a disease monitoring organization.I watched enough of the video to hear that all that attended were hunters.
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Post by Woody Williams on Mar 1, 2017 11:29:40 GMT -5
My opinion on meetings such as these....
I've been to a ton of these type meetings and gave input on DNR surveys over the last 48 years that I have deer hunted.Most, if not all, of the attendees that show up are unhappy with a certain DNR proposal or in this case, with the amount of deer that they are seeing. Folks that are happy with present hunting or their deer herd levels and the way the DNR manages them just will not show up. Reference the amount of deer hunters that showed up at the DNR "informational meetings" in opposition to Proposition #1.
Online surveys of any kind are a joke and the DNR learned during the Deer Proposition #1 that they are easily manipulated.
As most on here know Hunt-Indiana.com does not take positions on any subject such as this. We always send out mass emails telling the members to give their OWN individual input on any given subject. However, that does not restrict me or anyone on the staff from giving our OWN personal input to the DNR and NRC, but we do it as individuals, not H-I.
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