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Post by jjas on Feb 12, 2017 14:27:38 GMT -5
No offense to today's new hunters or the style in which they hunt. We all hunt for our own reasons. As for me, I sure miss the old days 👍 I'm sure many of us do, but (for what seems to be a growing number of people) the reality of deer hunting today is leasing, cameras, food plots, "hit lists", watching Lee & Tiffany (or the their wannabes) on TV and judging success by the score of the heads on their wall...and while that might not be my thing....to each their own.
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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 12, 2017 14:28:13 GMT -5
No offense to today's new hunters or the style in which they hunt. We all hunt for our own reasons. As for me, I sure miss the old days 👍 True... At the end of the day's hunt if we are personally happy and satisfied that is all that matters. We all should hunt to please only one person - ourselves...
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Post by trapperdave on Feb 12, 2017 15:32:18 GMT -5
And fill the freezer with healthy drug free meat
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Post by wesb81219 on Feb 12, 2017 15:35:10 GMT -5
We all have the right to hunt how we want and take whatever suits our needs. Is it really that difficult to be happy for the guys /gals that do what makes them happy? To each his own. If you wish to shoot whatever presents itself to you, or you are holding out for a wall hanger good for you. It's your hunt do it as you please and congratulations for your success!
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Feb 12, 2017 18:53:03 GMT -5
No offense to today's new hunters or the style in which they hunt. We all hunt for our own reasons. As for me, I sure miss the old days 👍 Dave, why can't people just be happy for each other? Could it be that someone who spent 10 years eating deer scat to know where the deer might be feeding, long hours of scouting and sitting in a stand to get a shot at a good one doesn't want someone else to do it an easier way or in less time ...and if better technology helped with that kill, OHHHHHH it's almost sacrilegious. We're talking a whole new sissy sport now. Sure, I want hunters to be legal, but other than this, I just don't give a RA what anyone else does or how they do it. We've all known people who exhaust so much energy worrying what someone else is doing and how they're doing it that it makes them miserable old crotchety people. I hated supervision, because I didn't want to worry about someone else even though I was getting paid to do it. If it's a gift to not give a hoot about what isn't my business, I sure am thankful for it.
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Post by Sasquatch on Feb 12, 2017 18:55:28 GMT -5
What the hell does weapon choice and availability have to do with the original post on this thread? Smh If that's all you can think about, you have truly missed the whole point and are part of the problem and an example of hunter 2017 So modern equipment has nothing to do with anything? If you think so then your lost again...SMH Better go back to hunting on the ground.... lol I've probably killed a third of my deer from the ground! Hunting from the ground is a sign of backwardness?
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Post by greghopper on Feb 12, 2017 19:24:47 GMT -5
So modern equipment has nothing to do with anything? If you think so then your lost again...SMH Better go back to hunting on the ground.... lol I've probably killed a third of my deer from the ground! Hunting from the ground is a sign of backwardness? Old School or back in the Day, I guess some may call it backwardness most hunt from the elevated position now days with modern equipment and clothing.
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Post by trapperdave on Feb 12, 2017 20:40:46 GMT -5
My 2008 ten point was taken from the ground, fifteen yards stalking, with a 1972 Ben Pearson recurve and cedar arrows. I'm a man of many talents and abilities lol
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Post by tynimiller on Feb 13, 2017 9:15:24 GMT -5
I think everyone is coming into this conversation limiting it far too narrowly. Hunting in a micro sense intensifies something that is occurring all around society, not just the hunting world at all. ANY hobby, job or skillset where any hint of competition forms sees this as well. The ease at which opinions and comments and accomplishments are shared is staggering...and the ego driven "me mentality" is seeping into everything.
To me it is not so much the younger generations to blame but dangit if we aren't taking it and running with it! It is the main reason I find myself more and more watching youtube videos of average joes, harvesting whatever deer (some HUGE some yearlings) they get an ethical shot at on public or "common place" private grounds. The popularity of these type of hunts is incredible and growing; I email Bill Wenke every time he shows his staff hitting up public land about how those episodes are 100% better than any episode where some giant drops off a 400-600 acre farm/lease...despite sometimes the public guys deer are just 110-120 inchers.
He has even openly admitted that those guys are true blue hunters, perhaps more so than even himself now. Anytime I see a show highlight a public hunter or a guy like myself that has access to "common man" spots I support! Those types of things are stuff more of our younger generation hunters need to see. Highlighting the process more than the inches in the end...re-emphasizing how hunting is such a personal thing, no other opinion should sway whether you launch an arrow.
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Post by steiny on Feb 13, 2017 9:58:20 GMT -5
The good old days. Yea I sure do miss those nailed up 2x4 death trap deer stands, crummy clothing that wouldn't keep you warm or dry and inaccurate shotguns
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Post by trapperdave on Feb 13, 2017 17:33:30 GMT -5
The good old days. Yea I sure do miss those nailed up 2x4 death trap deer stands, crummy clothing that wouldn't keep you warm or dry and inaccurate shotguns Guess you never wore the old wool logger outfits
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Post by beermaker on Feb 13, 2017 18:41:06 GMT -5
The good old days. Yea I sure do miss those nailed up 2x4 death trap deer stands, crummy clothing that wouldn't keep you warm or dry and inaccurate shotguns Yes, and the so called "safety" straps. I honestly think that one would be better off hitting the ground than to be restrained by one of those belts.
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Post by bill9068 on Feb 13, 2017 19:22:17 GMT -5
You haven't lived till you have hunted out of a baker stand, bottom only and sat for hours with your feet hanging over going numb, yea I sure do miss the good ole days, not. Never had a saftey strap till 20 years ago, I was young and dumb.
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Post by jjas on Feb 13, 2017 19:30:43 GMT -5
No doubt the equipment and clothing is better and safer, but when I talk about the "good old days", I'm talking about how easy it was to secure a place to hunt and how much fun it was to try and figure out the deer.
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Post by M4Madness on Feb 13, 2017 19:58:28 GMT -5
I'm talking about how easy it was to secure a place to hunt and how much fun it was to try and figure out the deer. I still try to figure out deer the old-fashioned way after two decades of doing so, because I refrain from running trail cameras during the season to pattern them. I grab my weapon and treestand and take off walking, hoping I'll see something, but having no idea if I actually will.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Feb 14, 2017 13:05:36 GMT -5
I'm talking about how easy it was to secure a place to hunt and how much fun it was to try and figure out the deer. I still try to figure out deer the old-fashioned way after two decades of doing so, because I refrain from running trail cameras during the season to pattern them. I grab my weapon and treestand and take off walking, hoping I'll see something, but having no idea if I actually will. ....but when there's a big one around every other tree...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2017 13:12:49 GMT -5
I still try to figure out deer the old-fashioned way after two decades of doing so, because I refrain from running trail cameras during the season to pattern them. I grab my weapon and treestand and take off walking, hoping I'll see something, but having no idea if I actually will. ....but when there's a big one around every other tree... There is no way you can pattern a buck during the rut. The bucks are everywhere and no-where. Studies have soon that I posted in the past that details how they travel miles per day every day. The days before and after, yes maybe (October and December).
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Post by tynimiller on Feb 15, 2017 10:38:22 GMT -5
....but when there's a big one around every other tree... There is no way you can pattern a buck during the rut. The bucks are everywhere and no-where. Studies have soon that I posted in the past that details how they travel miles per day every day. The days before and after, yes maybe (October and December). I agree but I also am a firm believer in "patterns" rarely exist in the deer most of us hunt. A pattern is a non-interrupted always repeated cycle of something (in this case locational movement). All a hunter can do is analyze and gather all evidence of movement use and form a consistent tendency of deer (even a specific deer). Come the rut though I've only ever been able to narrow down a general time a mature buck has always swung through the area...but even then we are talking like a 5-8 day window at best. Example is at the Swamp Property, this year I knew around December 5th through December 15th a MASSIVE buck I call Godzilla would cycle through as he loops out looking for later season receptive does. He's done it consistently for over 4 years running. I've seen similar things from other bucks as well. In the rut if I get a picture of a buck I want to kill I'm hunting him ASAP because if dogging a doe you have a day or two tops to really have a shot before he moves on. Best approach is simply to put yourself in prime travel corridors or where doe groups are.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 12:37:03 GMT -5
There is no way you can pattern a buck during the rut. The bucks are everywhere and no-where. Studies have soon that I posted in the past that details how they travel miles per day every day. The days before and after, yes maybe (October and December). I agree but I also am a firm believer in "patterns" rarely exist in the deer most of us hunt. A pattern is a non-interrupted always repeated cycle of something (in this case locational movement). All a hunter can do is analyze and gather all evidence of movement use and form a consistent tendency of deer (even a specific deer). Come the rut though I've only ever been able to narrow down a general time a mature buck has always swung through the area...but even then we are talking like a 5-8 day window at best. Example is at the Swamp Property, this year I knew around December 5th through December 15th a MASSIVE buck I call Godzilla would cycle through as he loops out looking for later season receptive does. He's done it consistently for over 4 years running. I've seen similar things from other bucks as well. In the rut if I get a picture of a buck I want to kill I'm hunting him ASAP because if dogging a doe you have a day or two tops to really have a shot before he moves on. Best approach is simply to put yourself in prime travel corridors or where doe groups are. I agree, and the bucks pattern us. Twice this year, I watched the same buck stay bedded all morning until the two hunters left. Both times 20 minutes later the buck got up and moved to my ridge. Each time I could not get a shot. I moved the old logging trail about 25 yards closer. I have this one patterned pretty good and your right on. He will show up a few times during the pre-rut/rut.
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Post by killer4 on Feb 16, 2017 18:50:39 GMT -5
I like the post people are posting I have been hunting the same way for over twenty years, the only thing I use is camo , a ladder stand and gun/bow. I kill whatever size deer I feel like it doesn't matter to me just love to eat. This year I did kill a 170 class {hancock county} good for this county. I think most hunting shows are staged to sale stuff.
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