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Post by jjas on Jan 23, 2017 10:07:38 GMT -5
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Post by dbd870 on Jan 23, 2017 10:33:57 GMT -5
Doesn't surprise me. JDUB killed his first archery deer this year with my 2008-1/2 (there's a story on the half there) compound. You just don't need the very latest technology.
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Post by scrub-buster on Jan 23, 2017 11:13:43 GMT -5
The insane prices were a big reason why I got out of compound bows. The last one I bought was a factory reconditioned Martin that I got at half price and I had gift cards. That cheap bow killed a lot of deer over the years.
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Post by dadfsr on Jan 23, 2017 11:26:01 GMT -5
When I already have to schedule my hunts around one full time job and two other part time jobs....well suffice it to say that those meager paychecks are not conducive to ever having the "latest and greatest" obscenely priced gear
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Post by jjas on Jan 23, 2017 11:51:04 GMT -5
We used to have a couple of small archery shops around, but when BassPro came to town, the small shops couldn't compete and went out of business.
I think the same thing will eventually happen with many of the smaller gun shops too.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 23, 2017 12:15:24 GMT -5
Talking to vendors/manufacturers at the ATA show they said archery is down ...a lot.
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Post by dadfsr on Jan 23, 2017 12:24:17 GMT -5
Talking to vendors/manufacturers at the ATA show they said archery is down ...a lot. I don't think that archery is down...if they are basing their judgement on purchases?? Maybe they should really get to heart of the matter??
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Post by medic22 on Jan 23, 2017 13:42:23 GMT -5
Manufacturers dug their own hole. There is no reason why they need to roll out 3 or 4 new flagship bows every year.
They need to take the path of gun manufacturers. One insanely awesome product every couple years.
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Post by ms660 on Jan 23, 2017 15:48:48 GMT -5
My Dad had a archery shop for 20 years back in the 1980s' through the late 1990's he ran out of our barn. He was a PSE, XI, High Country dealer for many years. I can remember when every year these companies would come out with a new model. The most I can remember a new bow he was selling cost was around 300-400 dollars. I thought at the time that was outrageous and people would not buy them, but he sold a lot at that price. People would trade a last years model in and he would give them the best deal he could, but he usually was stuck with these bows for a long time the used bow market back then was not good. His best money marker was bow maintenance and arrow sales. He made strings and cables and tuned bows. There was little profit in selling a new bow. I remember helping him out the weeks before bow season spending many late nights sitting in front a six fletching jigs, fletching XX75 Easton shafts trying to get caught up on arrow orders. He still has several old XI and PSE bow parts in his shop stored away. He would do some work for close friends after he closed shop, but no longer. He would be amazed at today's bows and the cost they are. I'm still using as my vertical bow an old Mathews Switchback that I bought used for 500$ 8 years ago. It kills as good as any 1500$ modern bow.
The crossbows prices today are just as bad if not worse than the vertical bow market. There is a company that has turned some heads and has sold 1000's of their bows at a good price and the quality is top notch. The Centerpoint Sniper 370 is a 299.00 dollar crossbow that is built and performs like many 800 dollar crossbows proving it can be done without having to take out a the second mortgage. If I was in the market for a new one it would be this one.
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Post by ms660 on Jan 23, 2017 16:01:31 GMT -5
I got to thinking about the good old days when Dad was in the archery business. I remember when the Mathews company was born. It wasn't Mathews then it was McPherson archery then. I remember trying out one of the first compounds the company came out with. It had an amazing 85% let off, but built extremely crude to today's standards, but it was a game changer then and we all know the rest of the story of what Mathews has become today.
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Post by trapperdave on Jan 24, 2017 0:00:55 GMT -5
Those $1500 dollar bows don't shoot any better than a $300 martin off the rack.
Its the archer, not the bow,gimmick,gadget or trinket that makes the shot. But there's plenty of folks that get their ego stroked carrying around the latest overpriced gimmicks
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Post by indyqdog on Jan 24, 2017 13:05:59 GMT -5
IMO, brick and mortar will be obsolete for things like bows in no time. Uber is the biggest transportation service -- they own no cars. Airbnb is the biggest accommodations company in the world -- own not a single piece of rental property. Amazon is one of the biggest companies in the world period and they hardly have any products that are truly "their own." Case in point: the tech revolution is coming, like it or not. This industry will have to adapt to the growing and shifting demands of its consumer-base.
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Post by TolusD on Jan 24, 2017 16:11:35 GMT -5
The insane prices were a big reason why I got out of compound bows. The last one I bought was a factory reconditioned Martin that I got at half price and I had gift cards. That cheap bow killed a lot of deer over the years. That's the exact reason I got into traditional archery. I can buy 2 or 3 handmade Hungarian Horsebows, imported from Hungary, for the cost of one cheap compound bow. And I get to have it custom made to my specs from draw weight to color scheme to materials used. For me, if compounds were $100 tomorrow, I'd still keep my horsebow. I don't think I'll ever go back.
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Post by jimstc on Mar 6, 2017 18:40:18 GMT -5
I read this article when the F&S newest mag came out. Took it to my local Pro Shop owner who now has three new bows in inventory. THREE! He is reducing his rented space from 600 sq ft to probably 300 sq ft. These guys are dying a slow death. Even the Hamilton county owned Koteewi 4,000 square feet pro shop has dialed back to winter hours. Imagine how deep those pockets are. It is very sad to me. Buying a good compound bow is a challenge regardless of your knowledge and it is a lot harder now without spending way too much. In another thread I complained about my most recent compound bow purchase. Part my fault, part the dying Pro Shop. Real sad to me. Enough said.
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