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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 2, 2017 10:23:08 GMT -5
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Post by Pinoc on Jan 2, 2017 10:32:11 GMT -5
I do believe the coyotes are hard on the fawns. Turkeys also of course.
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Post by throbak on Jan 2, 2017 11:05:41 GMT -5
I think a good population of predators is indicative of a good prey base It's been proven Lynx follow snowshoes and snowy owls and attic fox follow lemming populations If any of these species crashes there's a problem
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Post by davers on Jan 2, 2017 11:16:36 GMT -5
The biggest predator taking Deer is Humans. Not only through poaching or sport hunting, but rather by changing or destroying Deer habitat and of course development of wild areas. Natural predators don't normally take that many, and most of what they take is either weak or sick. Thus they keep the population in balance with habitat.
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Post by M4Madness on Jan 2, 2017 12:49:34 GMT -5
Coyotes are by far the largest reason for low fawn recruitment in Indiana. Most of the fawns in my area disappear after a few weeks. And it is an extreme rarity to see twins here. Most of the time, when I kill a doe, it'll be "dry". A few winters ago, coyotes were slaying deer left and right in the field across from the house, with the landowner even witnessing it personally on one occasion.
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Post by featherduster on Jan 2, 2017 13:09:56 GMT -5
Indiana could make a lot of money off of sportsman if they could improve our edible wildlife numbers.
Not many folks will travel to our state to hunt Coyotes but improve our turkey,small game and of course deer numbers and everybody would be traveling here.
When referring to predators lets not forget to include raccoons and any other egg eaters.
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Post by jackryan on Jan 2, 2017 13:13:26 GMT -5
I think a good population of predators is indicative of a good prey base It's been proven Lynx follow snowshoes and snowy owls and attic fox follow lemming populations If any of these species crashes there's a problem It really helps the predators when they keep out a big corn pile all year providing predators a constant predictable food source. I think it's a lot of the reason you have one guy posting pictures of 30 deer outside his window all year and a neighbor in the same county who HUNTS is saying they don't see any. It's kinda like welfare and towns for deer. They go there lay around and get fat and lazy. Makes them easy to catch.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Jan 2, 2017 17:36:29 GMT -5
I cannot say that they are a big problem around me, but I can certainly see how they could be.
Turkey egg eaters are on the top of my hit list.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2017 19:34:40 GMT -5
My neighbor last night 1st saw a bobcat and the a few minutes later a cat twice as big, the cougar. Now he believes me. I seen the cougar twice and Ohio confirmed there is a pair.
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Post by featherduster on Jan 2, 2017 19:42:54 GMT -5
The DNR was using black special ops helicopters to drop wild cougars in selected areas in hopes of controlling the deer populations and now they are dropping more cougars in hopes of controlling the expanding population of bobcats.
My sister in law got this from her cousin who was out one night illegally digging ginseng when he saw this happen.
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Post by M4Madness on Jan 2, 2017 20:19:47 GMT -5
It's those darned armadillos that are migrating northward into Indiana.
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Post by wesb81219 on Jan 2, 2017 20:30:00 GMT -5
The DNR was using black special ops helicopters to drop wild cougars in selected areas in hopes of controlling the deer populations and now they are dropping more cougars in hopes of controlling the expanding population of bobcats. My sister in law got this from her cousin who was out one night illegally digging ginseng when he saw this happen. Lol it was the 2nd gunman on the grassy knoll
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Post by buckert on Jan 2, 2017 20:33:34 GMT -5
And don't forget about those darn sasquartch
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Post by 1shotwade on Jan 2, 2017 21:23:17 GMT -5
I talked to one of my brothers Saturday.He works in Big Oaks,aka JPG.They have had a black bear in there for months and their bobcat population has exploded.This years deer taken from there was the lowest on record.Also,everyone I talk to says they are not seeing deer this year. This is also the first year in memory I have not seen or heard a coyote.Personally I believe we have a "large" predator problem in the area but of course that is only speculation. Wade
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Post by steiny on Jan 3, 2017 9:05:51 GMT -5
I think coyotes kill a whole lot more fawns than most realize.
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Post by 1shotwade on Jan 3, 2017 9:18:36 GMT -5
I agree as far as fawns but taking down a deer isn't as easy as we might think.A few years ago I went into a stand just before daylight.Before I got there I was hearing deer snorting and running through the soybeans.I was excited!I was convinces as soon as day broke I'd see a buck chasing a doe! Daylight came and for close to an hour (total time) I watched three coyote trying to catch a yearly.They didn't stand a chance!That yearly would stand in the beans and watch they trying to find an angle of approach and she'd stomp and snort and when they got 25 yards from her she would run 80 yards or so and it all started all over again.Even the time after daylight where I could see,this happened probably 15 or 20 times. The yotes finally gave up! This convinced me that they only get the very young,the very old or the very weak. Wade
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Jan 3, 2017 10:45:05 GMT -5
My neighbor last night 1st saw a bobcat and the a few minutes later a cat twice as big, the cougar. Now he believes me. I seen the cougar twice and Ohio confirmed there is a pair. Do they have the bipedal monsters over there too? We have them in Morgan/Monroe.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 11:25:35 GMT -5
My neighbor last night 1st saw a bobcat and the a few minutes later a cat twice as big, the cougar. Now he believes me. I seen the cougar twice and Ohio confirmed there is a pair. Do they have the bipedal monsters over there too? We have them in Morgan/Monroe. I'm sure the bipedal monsters are out there somewhere. I think they are hiding behind my shed. Might be hiding under my son's metal junk/stuff.
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Post by benj on Jan 3, 2017 12:25:06 GMT -5
I responded with the single not sure; Because I haven't seen any difference in my local area/back yard. It seems like my area has had a decrease in the coyote and fox population( I only shot one coyote last year and only saw a fox once), I suspect they've been hunted more over the past two years. Another indicator for my area is an increase of rabbit sightings( very few in 2014) and seeing turkeys on the property for the first time in 30 years.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 12:40:51 GMT -5
Do they have the bipedal monsters over there too? We have them in Morgan/Monroe. I'm sure the bipedal monsters are out there somewhere. I think they are hiding behind my shed. Might be hiding under my son's metal junk/stuff. Here you go:
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