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Post by duff on Dec 7, 2016 17:19:41 GMT -5
The park hunts I have been to shed much light on respecting area...or not. It was crazy! I was curious how hunters acted on those park hunts you have to get drawn for as opposed to how they act on public land... Same? I hunted Turkey Run about 8 yrs ago. First day there were guys in climbers in trees early that did not see the ladder or hang on I could hear giys yelling at each other. Guys walking all over and again guys who put stands on main trails getting mad for other guys walking back to the truck.
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Post by subzero350 on Dec 7, 2016 18:03:15 GMT -5
I was curious how hunters acted on those park hunts you have to get drawn for as opposed to how they act on public land... Same? I hunted Turkey Run about 8 yrs ago. First day there were guys in climbers in trees early that did not see the ladder or hang on I could hear giys yelling at each other. Guys walking all over and again guys who put stands on main trails getting mad for other guys walking back to the truck. Can't say I'm surprised. I've never witnessed an encounter like that on public land but I've had run-ins with the neighbors on the private ground I hunt - one time because they thought 100 yards from the property line was too close for me to hang my stand (while theirs was 25 feet from it on their side). Something I've learned in the 11 years I've been deer hunting is there are a lot of guys who like to act like bullies just to see if they can get you to go away or stop hunting entirely (so they have the whole area to themselves). I've decided they aren't going to push me off the private property I hunt; and I think they've finally figured that out now because things have been quiet for a few years. As far as public land is concerned, if I'm there first - I'm not moving. But I'm not going to have my back turned to another hunter either. If someone set up camp behind me, I would re-orient so I could keep an eye on him somehow.
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Post by butlerj on Dec 8, 2016 11:59:39 GMT -5
I had two guys follow me all the way down to my normal spot a good Mile back and a route no one else ever goes... they split and sat on either side of me by about 150 yds maybe in the same ravine... both shot at around 9 am at different times they got up and left! I never even seen them try and track anything... I don't know what they shot at... but I was ed... my .02 cents is don't put anything on public land that you cant part with!!!! Because they will get stolen. Maybe not the 1st or 2nd guy but the 3rd will more than likely be a theif. If you hunt all day and leave a camera or stand out over night then rush back the next morning you may be good. But don't leave anything for weeks at a time... save you some money... Unless you take your stand down and cover up with leaves or camo burlap... you may get away with that... or brush in your cameras so they don't stick out like sore thumbs... just be smart about it...
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Post by medic22 on Dec 8, 2016 12:53:22 GMT -5
Meh.
5/8s braided cable is a good deterrent. If you get through that, you need it more than I do.
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Post by butlerj on Dec 11, 2016 14:17:07 GMT -5
I guess if I buy a Stand I'm gonna paint it blaze orange or hot pink maybe no one would want it then...
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Post by barnettbuckbuster on Dec 11, 2016 14:24:10 GMT -5
I guess if I buy a Stand I'm gonna paint it blaze orange or hot pink maybe no one would want it then... not sure if your joking or not. But i would still bet that if someone could steal it they would!
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Post by butlerj on Dec 11, 2016 14:46:38 GMT -5
Seems like a good idea. Put far back in there so no one's going to want to drag it out, everyone that crosses it will know the stand is in that area so hopefully their ettiquette wont place a stand next to it and last if someone just takes and moves it to another area it will be easy to spot. The other option is engrave your name in it and put if this stand is not in " name" possession. It is stolen property. I've sat on the ground most of my career, the only benefit of a stand to me is getting out of the opened up areas that attracts everyone and their brother to... a black tree stand (ladder stands) stick out like a sore thumb to many anyways.
One day you might see one.
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Post by rabm03 on Dec 12, 2016 1:13:39 GMT -5
Htpothetical! What if the treestand on public ground has no name,address,phone number or identification number anywhere on the stand? Whose property is it? Is it a community stand? Not that I would hunt it but I see tons of stands on public property with no identification. Be hard pressed to be considered conversion if someone else hunted in it. Furthermore I'm not sure I would hunt anyone else's treestand on public ground. Most I see have bow hooks screwed into the tree, which isn't allowed, let alone the trees cut down surrounding the stand to clear for shooting lanes. How would you explain that to a C.O. if you were hunting in someone else's treestand?? Just my thoughts.
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Post by 3ptbuck on Dec 12, 2016 1:39:14 GMT -5
Htpothetical! What if the treestand on public ground has no name,address,phone number or identification number anywhere on the stand? Whose property is it? Is it a community stand? Not that I would hunt it but I see tons of stands on public property with no identification. Be hard pressed to be considered conversion if someone else hunted in it. Furthermore I'm not sure I would hunt anyone else's treestand on public ground. Most I see have bow hooks screwed into the tree, which isn't allowed, let alone the trees cut down surrounding the stand to clear for shooting lanes. How would you explain that to a C.O. if you were hunting in someone else's treestand?? Just my thoughts. Is there anything in writing about "trimming" shooting lanes? You've got me curious now. I usually do very minimal trimming if any but this year on my kids favorite stand I had to finally do some major trimming. A bunch of young trees/bushes had grown enough under the stand to where she couldn't even shoot the open area in front from her height with a bow or using the gun rest.
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Post by span870 on Dec 12, 2016 5:27:42 GMT -5
Htpothetical! What if the treestand on public ground has no name,address,phone number or identification number anywhere on the stand? Whose property is it? Is it a community stand? Not that I would hunt it but I see tons of stands on public property with no identification. Be hard pressed to be considered conversion if someone else hunted in it. Furthermore I'm not sure I would hunt anyone else's treestand on public ground. Most I see have bow hooks screwed into the tree, which isn't allowed, let alone the trees cut down surrounding the stand to clear for shooting lanes. How would you explain that to a C.O. if you were hunting in someone else's treestand?? Just my thoughts. Just because it's not marked doesn't mean it's not the property of the owner. I'm sure the question would go along the lines of, is it yours? No. Well than it isn't yours. Let's be honest here. I'm about 99.9989% sure no c.o. is going to arrest you for conversion for sitting in a stand. It's just not a cool thing to do. Way I see it, it's the same as trespassing. Would you be okay if someone hunted your land if "you weren't using it" at the time? Not a fan of guys leaving stands all season on public land since most aren't pulled at the end of the year. Is what it is though. Do unto others the way you'd want them to do you.
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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 12, 2016 5:31:12 GMT -5
Htpothetical! What if the treestand on public ground has no name,address,phone number or identification number anywhere on the stand? Whose property is it? Is it a community stand? Not that I would hunt it but I see tons of stands on public property with no identification. Be hard pressed to be considered conversion if someone else hunted in it. Furthermore I'm not sure I would hunt anyone else's treestand on public ground. Most I see have bow hooks screwed into the tree, which isn't allowed, let alone the trees cut down surrounding the stand to clear for shooting lanes. How would you explain that to a C.O. if you were hunting in someone else's treestand?? Just my thoughts. Is there anything in writing about "trimming" shooting lanes? You've got me curious now. I usually do very minimal trimming if any but this year on my kids favorite stand I had to finally do some major trimming. A bunch of young trees/bushes had grown enough under the stand to where she couldn't even shoot the open area in front from her height with a bow or using the gun rest. pretty sure that would be in the "users manual" for said property not saying it is or isn't but I'd start there and if it doesn't specifically say I'd call the office that controls said property
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Post by span870 on Dec 12, 2016 5:38:15 GMT -5
I will say this, this thread and others lately have shown there are quite a few guys that don't think I'd want to hunt with on here. What ever happened to sportsmanship? Doing unto others, consideration for fellow hunter. This goes both ways. Dont hunt someone else's stand but don't expect by putting up a stand you lock that area down for generations. If you don't get there in time and someone is in the area, you lost your area for the day. If I wanted to hunt from my stand or on the ground near your stand, how am I supposed to know if or when you'll be there. So by putting up that stand you lock down that area for the season? With a handful of stands I could pretty much lock down a chunk of public ground for myself for the season and not expect anyone to be able to hunt it? I run into the same stuff running dogs. I get to an area and someone is there, I move on. But can't tell you how many times guys drop dogs down in an area with mine and I spend the rest of the day chasing their dogs off. If you want a spot, get there early.
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Post by medic22 on Dec 12, 2016 7:52:47 GMT -5
Htpothetical! What if the treestand on public ground has no name,address,phone number or identification number anywhere on the stand? Whose property is it? Is it a community stand? Not that I would hunt it but I see tons of stands on public property with no identification. Be hard pressed to be considered conversion if someone else hunted in it. Furthermore I'm not sure I would hunt anyone else's treestand on public ground. Most I see have bow hooks screwed into the tree, which isn't allowed, let alone the trees cut down surrounding the stand to clear for shooting lanes. How would you explain that to a C.O. if you were hunting in someone else's treestand?? Just my thoughts. Nothing in the laws or rules about trimming shooting lanes. Any hooks cannot penetrate a tree more than 1/2", but they are allowed.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 12, 2016 8:20:47 GMT -5
I am real sure about all public land has rules regarding tree cutting and "Trimming".... Beware!
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Post by medic22 on Dec 12, 2016 8:31:46 GMT -5
I am real sure about all public land has rules regarding tree cutting and "Trimming".... Beware! Link?
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Post by greghopper on Dec 12, 2016 8:41:05 GMT -5
I am real sure about all public land has rules regarding tree cutting and "Trimming".... Beware! Link? Its called common sense .... Just like littering! It's not going to be listed under Hunting "Rules".... Property rules is where to look!
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Post by medic22 on Dec 12, 2016 8:43:42 GMT -5
Its called common sense .... Just like littering! It's not going to be listed under Hunting "Rules".... Property rules is where to look! Common sense doesnt make it a rule or law and I can assure you the public areas I hunt have not posted rules on site, or on thier websites about trimming lanes.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 12, 2016 8:48:27 GMT -5
Lol..... Just fire up the chainsaw and start trimming then.... Good luck!
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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 12, 2016 8:56:48 GMT -5
Its called common sense .... Just like littering! It's not going to be listed under Hunting "Rules".... Property rules is where to look! These words don't come of my finger tips easy but Greg's right
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Post by greghopper on Dec 12, 2016 8:59:21 GMT -5
Again ..... HeHe
BTW..... Common sence doesn't have a "link"
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