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Post by dbd870 on Nov 15, 2016 10:32:32 GMT -5
I had a Crossfire fail on me. Did they replace it? They did but they included a nastygram that I installed it wrong and caused the damage - which was garbage. It was on my 500Mag which has a reputation for eating scopes - I even had 4 rings on it. I had a Redfield on it but want to see how the Crossfire did; I put the Redfield back on it and it's still running strong. Gave the replacement away. I've probably mounted well in excess of 50 scopes in my lifetime; funny how that's the only one I've ever had the crosshairs come apart on me - that letter lost them a customer for life. Wasn't too much latter they came out with the Crossfire 2 - imagine that!
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Post by medic22 on Nov 15, 2016 10:35:03 GMT -5
They did but they included a nastygram that I installed it wrong and caused the damage - which was garbage. It was on my 500Mag which has a reputation for eating scopes - I even had 4 rings on it. I had a Redfield on it but want to see how the Crossfire did; I put the Redfield back on it and it's still running strong. Gave the replacement away. I've probably mounted well in excess of 50 scopes in my lifetime; funny how that's the only one I've ever had the crosshairs come apart on me - that letter lost them a customer for life. Wasn't too much latter they came out with the Crossfire 2 - imagine that! Thats a shame. Ive never had an issue, most people I know that use them all buy them from the same dealer I do. If any of us were to have a problem, we ship the scope to him and he sends a new one, then deals with vortex himself.
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Post by esshup on Nov 15, 2016 22:04:37 GMT -5
I vote for the Savage. Trigger is easy to adjust and doesn't have problems. As for caliber, you are limited to 30 caliber and 6mm. 6mm is a little light for elk, although with the right bullet construction and getting within range it will kill 'em.
In .30 cal, I'd go 30-06 vs. .308. More velocity is why, it will allow you to shoot a bit further is all.
I'm not a fan of the Ruger triggers, but I suppose they could be worked on by a 'smith, where the Savage is adjustable by the owner. Remington quality has gone down in recent years, and you still have a trigger that needs some work to get it to equal the Savage.
Take a look and see if the Axis has a barrel nut. If so, you can change the barrel yourself. Buy another barrel in .308 and you can shoot both cartridges. Try that with a Ruger or a Remington.
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Post by dusty20 on Nov 16, 2016 12:24:33 GMT -5
I vote for the Savage. Trigger is easy to adjust and doesn't have problems. As for caliber, you are limited to 30 caliber and 6mm. 6mm is a little light for elk, although with the right bullet construction and getting within range it will kill 'em. In .30 cal, I'd go 30-06 vs. .308. More velocity is why, it will allow you to shoot a bit further is all. I'm not a fan of the Ruger triggers, but I suppose they could be worked on by a 'smith, where the Savage is adjustable by the owner. Remington quality has gone down in recent years, and you still have a trigger that needs some work to get it to equal the Savage. Take a look and see if the Axis has a barrel nut. If so, you can change the barrel yourself. Buy another barrel in .308 and you can shoot both cartridges. Try that with a Ruger or a Remington. You really need to forgive my ignorance as I am typically not the most educated person when it comes to guns. I was curious about the ability to change calibers on any of the rifles that have been mentioned. So if I read you correctly the Savage Axis has the ability to shoot either a 30-06 or a .308 by just changing the barrel but the Remington and Ruger do not have that ability? I also heard that the Remington has had quality problems and that the trigger wasn't the best. I always thought they were held in pretty high regard.
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Post by dbd870 on Nov 16, 2016 13:58:42 GMT -5
Savage use a barrel that has a nut that is use on the barrel, you set headspace tighten the nut and you have a new caliber. Obviously the cartridge base would have to be the same or you would need a bolt as well. A vice, a nut wrench and a couple of gauges (some even use a loaded round for one of them) and you can do it yourself.
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Post by subzero350 on Nov 16, 2016 15:11:18 GMT -5
I've got a Savage Trophy 116 in .300 Win Mag with a stainless barrel, accutrigger, and detachable box magazine that came with the Nikon BDC scope. A little more expensive than OP's budget but their Axis line is cheaper in price with similar features. My Savage 116 has the smoothest operating bolt I've ever used on a rifle and the accutrigger is outstanding.
I recently purchased a Ruger American Rifle in .30-06 with a blued barrel and detachable box magazine. It didn't come with a scope but it does have an adjustable trigger. I got it for $199 during the secret wally world clearance sale back in August but I've seen them on sale at other retailers for less than $400. Even at full price it is still a very nice rifle. The adjustable trigger is nice (very similar to Savage's accutrigger) and the bolt isn't bad. I put a Weaver Kaspa 3-12x50 scope on it I got from CTD and it made a very nice shooting setup.
ETA: Dunham's and Dick's both have some great Black Friday deals on Scoped Axis Rifles. Check them out OP.
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Post by esshup on Nov 16, 2016 22:10:35 GMT -5
Savage use a barrel that has a nut that is use on the barrel, you set headspace tighten the nut and you have a new caliber. Obviously the cartridge base would have to be the same or you would need a bolt as well. A vice, a nut wrench and a couple of gauges (some even use a loaded round for one of them) and you can do it yourself. You can change just the nose of the bolt if the cartridge base is a different diameter too. But 30-06, 308, .243 all have the same cartridge base. 30-06 is longer, so getting one chambered in .308 and then trying to switch to 30-06 probably won't work due to the longer 30-06 cartridge. But going with a shorter cartridge should work, if it will feed correctly from the magazine.
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Post by omegahunter on Nov 17, 2016 14:31:15 GMT -5
I had a Crossfire fail on me. I was sighting in a buddy's muzzleloader (.50 CVA) last year and his Crossfire II only lasted two shots. Took till after season to get his replacement. Vortex sent a note that the scope was replaced as the defective one was irreparable. The replacement has held up to sighting in and we shall see if he needs it this year or not.
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Post by omegahunter on Nov 17, 2016 14:34:01 GMT -5
Savage use a barrel that has a nut that is use on the barrel, you set headspace tighten the nut and you have a new caliber. Obviously the cartridge base would have to be the same or you would need a bolt as well. A vice, a nut wrench and a couple of gauges (some even use a loaded round for one of them) and you can do it yourself. You can change just the nose of the bolt if the cartridge base is a different diameter too. But 30-06, 308, .243 all have the same cartridge base. 30-06 is longer, so getting one chambered in .308 and then trying to switch to 30-06 probably won't work due to the longer 30-06 cartridge. But going with a shorter cartridge should work, if it will feed correctly from the magazine. You can do the same with the Ruger American if you can deal with the smooth barrel nut.
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Post by jjas on Nov 17, 2016 15:30:40 GMT -5
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Post by dusty20 on Nov 26, 2016 20:04:40 GMT -5
Well I missed a few of the last couple posts before buying but I thought I was set on the Ruger american but I went to the gun and knife show here and bought a Mossberg patriot with a dead ringer scope. Scope seems like a cheapo and can't find much if any info on it but overall happy with the gun. Of course I haven't shot it yet so I still need to do that. Looks good and can't wait to send a few down range.
Thanks for all the insight you guys have given me.
Any info on this scope? It's a 3-9x40.
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Post by dbd870 on Nov 27, 2016 10:50:58 GMT -5
Believe it is a Vortex Crossfire
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Post by medic22 on Nov 27, 2016 11:22:15 GMT -5
Patriot comes in a vortex and a dead ringer combo. I dont know anything about dead ringer scopes other than I have never heard of them......that should say something.
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Post by bill9068 on Nov 27, 2016 12:26:54 GMT -5
Any thoughts on a Ruger ranch fifle in .223, good deer gun? Bought it about 15 years ago and best I can remenber shot it maybe once. Synthetic and stainless with a cheap scope.
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Post by js2397 on Nov 27, 2016 12:31:35 GMT -5
.223 is not legal in Indiana for deer, and it's marginal at best in states where it is legal.
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Post by jkhall316 on Jan 26, 2017 7:52:29 GMT -5
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 26, 2017 7:56:56 GMT -5
How much money does an Acu-Trigger cost and can a novice install it in an Axis?
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Post by esshup on Jan 28, 2017 0:59:01 GMT -5
How much money does an Acu-Trigger cost and can a novice install it in an Axis? I don't think pre-accutrigger models are retrofittable. Look at Rifle Basix triggers. Do they use the same model for both pre and post accutrigger models?
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Post by 1shotwade on Jan 28, 2017 8:17:20 GMT -5
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Post by jjas on Jan 28, 2017 16:07:04 GMT -5
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