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Post by raymar on Nov 8, 2016 23:39:05 GMT -5
You would be surprised how many people do though. I believe archery hunting will teach you more about shot selection and hunting than the avg hunter who just goes out hunting. Younger and less experienced will always throw a few in the air and pray. Yay it works some time but most not. Hats off to this young man and while I would love to take that size of deer the scrutiny he will recieve is not worth it.
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Post by GS1 on Nov 9, 2016 0:30:22 GMT -5
sure haven't I don't shoot at running deer! I'll take the questionable ethics on the shot...but you said "hunt". Big difference! So it's "questionable ethics" to take a running shot at a deer, but not so if you put yourself in a position (stander during a deer drive) that most likely is going to result in a running or at least moving target? Like Woody said, ethics are highly personal. All of this has nothing to do with a thread about a great buck taken in Iowa.
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Post by barnettbuckbuster on Nov 9, 2016 8:19:06 GMT -5
Great archery deer is all I have left to say!
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Post by mkfrench on Nov 9, 2016 11:16:18 GMT -5
I'll take the questionable ethics on the shot...but you said "hunt". Big difference! So it's "questionable ethics" to take a running shot at a deer, but not so if you put yourself in a position (stander during a deer drive) that most likely is going to result in a running or at least moving target? Like Woody said, ethics are highly personal. All of this has nothing to do with a thread about a great buck taken in Iowa. Yes. Just because the deer are "driven" doesn't mean a running shot is the only option. Whether driven intentionally or as a result of deer avoiding other hunters, we all have shot "driven" deer. If you don't want to admit that, fine, but you're lying to yourself. I don't question the running shot as unethical BUT deer drives aren't what many people think.
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Post by greghopper on Nov 23, 2016 13:48:15 GMT -5
(from another site)
"There is an unfortunate situation unfolding around this buck. The antlers were confiscated this past weekend by the Iowa DNR. The kid who shot it is 19 years old. The buck was shot with a crossbow, which is illegal in Iowa unless a doctor can provide documentation of an upper extremity problem that renders a person unable to shoot a compound bow. Last year, Austin Pontier was issued a crossbow permit due to a shoulder injury sustained while wrestling in high school. The latest information I am hearing is that he did not get his crossbow permit renewed for this season, therefore making his crossbow an illegal weapon. I hope this does not end up being the case, as the buck gross scores 214" typical and has a legitimate shot at Mel Johnson's 204 7/8" net archery typical record. The Iowa DNR has a reputation for being overly aggressive in situations like this...IE the Joe Franz Buck. It has also been reported the Field & Stream had previously offered Pontier $75,000 to keep the story about the buck off of social media and give them an exclusive cover story on it. Bass Pro also reportedly offered the kid $300,000.00 for the antlers. Both offers were made before the DNR took the rack this past weekend."
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Post by greghopper on Nov 23, 2016 13:49:58 GMT -5
SMH....
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Post by jjas on Nov 23, 2016 16:44:53 GMT -5
(from another site) "There is an unfortunate situation unfolding around this buck. The antlers were confiscated this past weekend by the Iowa DNR. The kid who shot it is 19 years old. The buck was shot with a crossbow, which is illegal in Iowa unless a doctor can provide documentation of an upper extremity problem that renders a person unable to shoot a compound bow. Last year, Austin Pontier was issued a crossbow permit due to a shoulder injury sustained while wrestling in high school. The latest information I am hearing is that he did not get his crossbow permit renewed for this season, therefore making his crossbow an illegal weapon. I hope this does not end up being the case, as the buck gross scores 214" typical and has a legitimate shot at Mel Johnson's 204 7/8" net archery typical record. The Iowa DNR has a reputation for being overly aggressive in situations like this...IE the Joe Franz Buck. It has also been reported the Field & Stream had previously offered Pontier $75,000 to keep the story about the buck off of social media and give them an exclusive cover story on it. Bass Pro also reportedly offered the kid $300,000.00 for the antlers. Both offers were made before the DNR took the rack this past weekend."
If this is the case, talk about a mistake that would haunt you forever....Wow.
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Post by greghopper on Nov 23, 2016 16:48:23 GMT -5
Yes...he may have never realized he needed to get his crossbow permit renewed for this season.
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Post by ukwil on Nov 23, 2016 16:50:25 GMT -5
A guy I work with had a nephew who killed a typical 12 that they rough scored at 209" gross this week. Ive got pictures. It's the kids first buck witha bow
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Post by boonechaser on Nov 23, 2016 19:42:01 GMT -5
Not going to judge or jump to conclusions. Hope it works out for the young man.
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Post by alduflux on Nov 23, 2016 19:44:16 GMT -5
A guy I work with had a nephew who killed a typical 12 that they rough scored at 209" gross this week. Ive got pictures. It's the kids first buck witha bow Where? What state?
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Post by nfalls116 on Nov 23, 2016 19:50:19 GMT -5
Wonder how many people are hunting in the exact same way in that state. Bet alot of people are running to the doc because they thought they only needed one exclusion note
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Post by (Not Ronald) Reagan on Nov 23, 2016 19:51:57 GMT -5
Not going to judge or jump to conclusions. Hope it works out for the young man. Yup same here.
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Post by ukwil on Nov 23, 2016 19:53:14 GMT -5
A guy I work with had a nephew who killed a typical 12 that they rough scored at 209" gross this week. Ive got pictures. It's the kids first buck witha bow Where? What state? SW Ohio
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 23, 2016 20:06:18 GMT -5
If the kid was temporarily unable to pull a vertical hunting bow he does have to renew every year. A permanent disability you only have to apply once.
Mistake or on purpose? Only he knows...
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Post by greghopper on Nov 23, 2016 20:29:29 GMT -5
On this date, Nov 23, 1993, Milo Hanson took the current B&C World Record Typical. A 213 5/8 "
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Post by trapperdave on Nov 23, 2016 20:48:10 GMT -5
Ignorance of the law is no excuse. And a temporary injury is just that...temporary.
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Post by fowlhunter on Nov 23, 2016 20:58:45 GMT -5
(from another site) "There is an unfortunate situation unfolding around this buck. The antlers were confiscated this past weekend by the Iowa DNR. The kid who shot it is 19 years old. The buck was shot with a crossbow, which is illegal in Iowa unless a doctor can provide documentation of an upper extremity problem that renders a person unable to shoot a compound bow. Last year, Austin Pontier was issued a crossbow permit due to a shoulder injury sustained while wrestling in high school. The latest information I am hearing is that he did not get his crossbow permit renewed for this season, therefore making his crossbow an illegal weapon. I hope this does not end up being the case, as the buck gross scores 214" typical and has a legitimate shot at Mel Johnson's 204 7/8" net archery typical record. The Iowa DNR has a reputation for being overly aggressive in situations like this...IE the Joe Franz Buck. It has also been reported the Field & Stream had previously offered Pontier $75,000 to keep the story about the buck off of social media and give them an exclusive cover story on it. Bass Pro also reportedly offered the kid $300,000.00 for the antlers. Both offers were made before the DNR took the rack this past weekend."
Regardless of the legality of it the deer wouldn't qualify for the archery world record anyway since it was killed with a crossbow.
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Post by jjas on Nov 23, 2016 21:38:49 GMT -5
fowlhunter
True, but it's my understanding that it would qualify for B&C.
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Post by fowlhunter on Nov 24, 2016 5:04:00 GMT -5
fowlhunter True, but it's my understanding that it would qualify for B&C. Correct
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