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Post by cvawolf on Oct 20, 2016 15:34:10 GMT -5
Has anyone harvested a deer using the 45 cal shockwave for muzzleloaders,if so did you get complete pass through?
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Post by squirrelhunter on Oct 20, 2016 16:24:42 GMT -5
Yeah I've used them,at least on does and button bucks,since that's all I see,but I've always gotten pass throughs with them.
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Post by cvawolf on Oct 20, 2016 17:54:07 GMT -5
Yeah I've used them,at least on does and button bucks,since that's all I see,but I've always gotten pass throughs with them. Thanks |
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Post by cvawolf on Oct 20, 2016 17:54:44 GMT -5
Yeah I've used them,at least on does and button bucks,since that's all I see,but I've always gotten pass throughs with them. How many grains are you shooting |
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Post by mkfrench on Oct 20, 2016 20:00:54 GMT -5
I shoot a 50 cal Encore(3-50 pyrodex pellets+250 grain Shockwaves) with no complaints. I've dropped deer in tracks and have had them run.
Only negative I've seen was once when I dropped a deer at 15-20 yards and the bullet seperated from the jacket. Bullet lodged underskin on opposite side, while the jacket cut me while field dressing. The deer died immediately so I can't really complain about that. I've recovered every deer I've hit with them.
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Post by ms660 on Oct 20, 2016 20:20:28 GMT -5
I use them with 100 grains of Blackhorn 209 in my in-line muzzle loaders and always get complete pass through's and usually good blood trails. They seem to open up good by the size of the exit hole. I use the ones with the special sabot that loads easier. They are slicker than the regular one. Can't think of what they are called now. I think they are the yellow sabots.
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Post by squirrelhunter on Oct 20, 2016 20:42:12 GMT -5
Yeah I've used them,at least on does and button bucks,since that's all I see,but I've always gotten pass throughs with them. How many grains are you shooting 200 grain. |
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Post by squirrelhunter on Oct 20, 2016 20:43:23 GMT -5
I use them with 100 grains of Blackhorn 209 in my in-line muzzle loaders and always get complete pass through's and usually good blood trails. They seem to open up good by the size of the exit hole. I use the ones with the special sabot that loads easier. They are slicker than the regular one. Can't think of what they are called now. I think they are the yellow sabots. Are you thinking of Powerbelts? |
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Post by squirrelhunter on Oct 20, 2016 20:47:58 GMT -5
I'm currently trying T/C Super 45 XR sabots loaded with 180g XTP bullets but haven't shot a deer with it yet. Wanting to try it with Blackhorn 209 powder,I think that's what it's called anyway.
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Post by chasingtails on Oct 20, 2016 21:15:46 GMT -5
What kind of gun you using? I was using them out of my CVA optima but switched to powerbelts. I had good out comes with them. They recommend you use powerbelts for some reason. Idk what made me switch.
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Post by ms660 on Oct 20, 2016 23:14:50 GMT -5
I use them with 100 grains of Blackhorn 209 in my in-line muzzle loaders and always get complete pass through's and usually good blood trails. They seem to open up good by the size of the exit hole. I use the ones with the special sabot that loads easier. They are slicker than the regular one. Can't think of what they are called now. I think they are the yellow sabots. Are you thinking of Powerbelts? No they are T/C Shockwave bullets. They have two different type a material they make the sabots out of. One is slicker than the other and loads easier. I tried Powerbelts and didn't care for them. They didn't open up much and left faint blood trails for me. |
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Post by ms660 on Oct 20, 2016 23:17:41 GMT -5
double post
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Post by trapperdave on Oct 20, 2016 23:24:34 GMT -5
Powerbelts suck in my experience. And tend to tumble in air evidenced by keyhole holes in target.
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Post by poc on Oct 21, 2016 0:46:45 GMT -5
I didn't care for Powerbelts either.
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Post by bonecollector23 on Oct 21, 2016 6:48:14 GMT -5
What kind of gun you using? I was using them out of my CVA optima but switched to powerbelts. I had good out comes with them. They recommend you use powerbelts for some reason. Idk what made me switch. My CVA Optima shoots Barnes sabots much better than the Powerbelts. More accurate and they don't tumble. I think the best sabot/powder combinations are gun dependent rather than by brand. My buddies CVA optima shoots Hornady's better than mine. You just have to pay the price and spend some time on the range. Trial and error until you are comfortable with what you are shooting. |
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Post by squirrelhunter on Oct 21, 2016 18:38:07 GMT -5
What kind of gun you using? I was using them out of my CVA optima but switched to powerbelts. I had good out comes with them. They recommend you use powerbelts for some reason. Idk what made me switch. My CVA Optima shoots Barnes sabots much better than the Powerbelts. More accurate and they don't tumble. I think the best sabot/powder combinations are gun dependent rather than by brand. My buddies CVA optima shoots Hornady's better than mine. You just have to pay the price and spend some time on the range. Trial and error until you are comfortable with what you are shooting. Yeah,I still haven't found a combo I trust past 40 yards,that's why I'm wanting to try the 209 powder. |
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Post by bucshunter on Oct 21, 2016 19:14:53 GMT -5
We shoot two muzzy s one cva wolf and one Tc impact and use blackhorn 209 powder 100 grains and barnes 250 grain TEZ sabots. Both shoot accurate to 100 yds. Get the blackhorn powder.
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Post by duff on Oct 22, 2016 5:01:10 GMT -5
My CVA Optima shoots Barnes sabots much better than the Powerbelts. More accurate and they don't tumble. I think the best sabot/powder combinations are gun dependent rather than by brand. My buddies CVA optima shoots Hornady's better than mine. You just have to pay the price and spend some time on the range. Trial and error until you are comfortable with what you are shooting. Yeah,I still haven't found a combo I trust past 40 yards,that's why I'm wanting to try the 209 powder. open sights or scoped? I have not shot my muzzleloader in 5 yrs I bet but used to be a tack driving machine with 90 grains of pyrodex and a 250 grain xtp bullet. Killed a few out to 130 yrds. Used a cheap 1-4x scope. Best off hand shot was a 90 yard shot. I would think 40 yrds with any muzzloader would be a chip shot. |
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Post by esshup on Oct 22, 2016 9:18:23 GMT -5
250g Hornady SST's or 250g TC Shockwaves shoot the same for me (.451 or .452 bullet diameter in a 50 cal muzzleloader using MMP short sabots). 43g of powder for 23xxfps and they work. Shot deer out to 167 yds with that speed, pass thru. Changed powder lot and it was around 3-400 fps slower, and didn't get a pass thru at 200 yds.
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Post by squirrelhunter on Oct 22, 2016 9:37:28 GMT -5
Yeah,I still haven't found a combo I trust past 40 yards,that's why I'm wanting to try the 209 powder. open sights or scoped? I have not shot my muzzleloader in 5 yrs I bet but used to be a tack driving machine with 90 grains of pyrodex and a 250 grain xtp bullet. Killed a few out to 130 yrds. Used a cheap 1-4x scope. Best off hand shot was a 90 yard shot. I would think 40 yrds with any muzzloader would be a chip shot. Scoped. I've used Pyrodex,Triple 7 granular and pellets,American Pioneer all used with 2 or 3 kinds of T/C sabots and lubed lead,Powerbelts and from 90g-150g of powder,still don't trust it beyond 40 yards,if I move back to 75 yards it's all over the target and even misses the target some. I'm using a T/C G2 Contender by the way. |
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