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Post by wesb81219 on Oct 19, 2016 20:09:39 GMT -5
Hs specialties scent wafers, does anyone else use them or is against them? Either way what are your thoughts on them? I currently use the fresh earth scent, have been contemplating the acorn and/ or the doe estrus and buck rut scents.
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Post by deadeer on Oct 19, 2016 20:20:36 GMT -5
I let my clothes hang by the woodstove. Then just take a shower and TRY to hunt according to the wind. A lot of hunting stuff is made to bag the hunter, not the deer. Lol. Save your money!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:22:32 GMT -5
I use cedar chips/bark. There are large patches of cedars on the farm and spot the landscape. I try to blend in as much as possible.
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Post by welder on Oct 19, 2016 20:25:41 GMT -5
I let my clothes hang by the woodstove. Then just take a shower and TRY to hunt according to the wind. A lot of hunting stuff is made to bag the hunter, not the deer. Lol. Save your money! ABSOLUTELY could not have said it any better! I hang my clothes on the clothesline in nice weather and by the woodstove in bad weather. WAAAAY too many gimmicks on the market.
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Post by wesb81219 on Oct 19, 2016 20:45:53 GMT -5
I know they are synthetic scents and I also try to as much " natural " scent control as I can. To be honest learning more about the habitat I hunt would probably help me a great deal. I have little to no knowledge of identification of trees and plants. There are some obvious ones like pine trees and I obviously know oaks drop acorns, I can see what bushes have berries on them, but other than that I'm oblivious.
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Post by deadeer on Oct 20, 2016 0:28:16 GMT -5
I know they are synthetic scents and I also try to as much " natural " scent control as I can. To be honest learning more about the habitat I hunt would probably help me a great deal. I have little to no knowledge of identification of trees and plants. There are some obvious ones like pine trees and I obviously know oaks drop acorns, I can see what bushes have berries on them, but other than that I'm oblivious. I am not too far behind you on plant and some tree id'ing. Lol. It doesn't make or break you as a hunter luckily. Just some basic common sense and knowing your game animals habits. Then you just gotta have patience and confidence in your setup. I am 42, been hunting since I was 12, and just recently, maybe 10yrs, learned how much the patience and confidence thing is the real deal.
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Post by nfalls116 on Oct 20, 2016 1:01:20 GMT -5
I know they are synthetic scents and I also try to as much " natural " scent control as I can. To be honest learning more about the habitat I hunt would probably help me a great deal. I have little to no knowledge of identification of trees and plants. There are some obvious ones like pine trees and I obviously know oaks drop acorns, I can see what bushes have berries on them, but other than that I'm oblivious. sounds like you know a good place to improve. Plenty of knowledgeable people on here when it comes to plants. Take pictures and ask questions. I'm always trying to figure out more about the world surrounding me. If I see a plant I'm unsure of I snap a picture and go to Google. If I am still unsure I'll post on here. Or email Purdue or USDA. on deaddeer confidence remark that's all these scent control and doe pee and face paint do, make you more confident that you are hidden or attractive
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Post by Russ Koon on Oct 20, 2016 3:26:46 GMT -5
I used to use a variety of such scent products, including the HS scent wafers in three different "flavors".
Never had any evidence that any of them worked, except one occasion when a small buck came in, nose to the ground and following my exact trail like a hound dog after a rabbit. That time, I was using a pretty hefty squirt of Davy Bracken's buck lure on my boots. Didn't get a shot at that buck, but I sure had plenty of Davy Bracken's on every time I went out for a couple years!
It seemed at the time to be convincing evidence, but I suppose there could have been a real doe on that trail a few minutes before I used it. Anyway, I never got any further evidence of effectiveness of any scent products and eventually found much better results from carrying a wind indicator, like unscented powder or my favorite, a snuff-can sized can of little micro-fiber strands that carry on the slightest breath of a breeze and are visible for fifty feet or so on what feels like a dead calm day. They have informed me of my actual scent trail from my stand and that info has often been helpful in relocating or at least in watching a different approach route.
Many guys save milkweed pods during the off-season for the same purpose, and I used some of those a year or two when I had run out of the synthetic fibers. The milkweed seeds do work, but to be as effective as the fibers they need to have the seed cut off so they float longer. I went back to the synthetic fibers, and still use them.
That and going higher with my stands have been two of the most important improvements in my gear or techniques over the years. Killed my first deer with a "Scary Old Baker" climber about twelve feet off the ground, but a few years later I was much more comfortable and was seeing many more deer within range when going 25 feet up. I finally decided that going that high was better for SEEING them than it was for SHOOTING them, though, and settled on a height of about eighteen feet as the more ideal height overall, depending on the terrain.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 7:52:10 GMT -5
Russ Koon right on. I do use cedar bark for my cloths during storage, but that's it. I wear rubber boots to minimize my scent walking in and to keep my feet dry. All of my stand are 20+ feet. That's the big key, be high. I also check my back ground of the stand to make sure the deer on the trials do not look straight at you. Ran into this even being 25ft up two years ago. I had to move the stand 15 yards. My biggest issue is taking days off work for hunting. Good weather cloths also helps on stand time.
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Post by M4Madness on Oct 20, 2016 9:13:44 GMT -5
Wes, as a newer deer hunter, it's understandable that you are anxious to try any method to increase your chances of seeing and killing deer. Every one of us here probably started out the exact same way. I know that over 20 years ago, I was buying dirt scent wafers, using coon or fox urine on my boots, and sitting on the ground exposed way too much. I even bought into the Scent-Lok hype all those years ago when it was introduced.
Trust those of us who have been there and done that when we say you don't need any of that stuff. No scent is going to cover human scent, nor even dilute it. Deer simply smell both you and the cover scent. The key to consistently killing deer is really rather somple. First, figure out where you think deer will be coming from at a given time of day, then position yourself downwind of that location. If the wind is not right, do NOT hunt that spot, even if it is all you have. Heck, you don't even need to bathe with that method. Lol! Sure, deer can come from any direction, and you'll get winded once in a while, but you'll come out ahead more times than not once you figure out their movements.
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Post by bill9068 on Oct 20, 2016 9:31:56 GMT -5
Ditto to the last few posts, been there , tried that. I do use scent eliminating spray, dont know if its working but don't get busted very often. Another big thing is do not move, deer will pick you up almost always.
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Post by wesb81219 on Oct 20, 2016 11:57:14 GMT -5
Wes, as a newer deer hunter, it's understandable that you are anxious to try any method to increase your chances of seeing and killing deer. Every one of us here probably started out the exact same way. I know that over 20 years ago, I was buying dirt scent wafers, using coon or fox urine on my boots, and sitting on the ground exposed way too much. I even bought into the Scent-Lok hype all those years ago when it was introduced. Trust those of us who have been there and done that when we say you don't need any of that stuff. No scent is going to cover human scent, nor even dilute it. Deer simply smell both you and the cover scent. The key to consistently killing deer is really rather somple. First, figure out where you think deer will be coming from at a given time of day, then position yourself downwind of that location. If the wind is not right, do NOT hunt that spot, even if it is all you have. Heck, you don't even need to bathe with that method. Lol! Sure, deer can come from any direction, and you'll get winded once in a while, but you'll come out ahead more times than not once you figure out their movements. I sure do appreciate everyone's experience, knowledge and advice around here. I have learned a few things so far this year. One being wind direction and another is good cover. I'm hunting from the ground and know both of those are vital along with movement. I had a doe 5-10 yds behind me with the wind in my face and got busted moving to sneak a look at her. Got busted another time, heard a deer stomping behind me no more than 5-10 ft behind, was smoking a cigarette on that one. So I am learning and I know eventually I'll get it just right.
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Post by Huntnfreak on Oct 20, 2016 12:11:59 GMT -5
I have used the white oak acorn scent wafers for 20+ years. I have them on every time I hunt..not sure if they work (can't get a deer to answer me when I ask),but I also always hunt the wind and rarely get busted from down wind deer.
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Post by bonecollector23 on Oct 20, 2016 12:35:35 GMT -5
Wes, as a newer deer hunter, it's understandable that you are anxious to try any method to increase your chances of seeing and killing deer. Every one of us here probably started out the exact same way. I know that over 20 years ago, I was buying dirt scent wafers, using coon or fox urine on my boots, and sitting on the ground exposed way too much. I even bought into the Scent-Lok hype all those years ago when it was introduced. Trust those of us who have been there and done that when we say you don't need any of that stuff. No scent is going to cover human scent, nor even dilute it. Deer simply smell both you and the cover scent. The key to consistently killing deer is really rather somple. First, figure out where you think deer will be coming from at a given time of day, then position yourself downwind of that location. If the wind is not right, do NOT hunt that spot, even if it is all you have. Heck, you don't even need to bathe with that method. Lol! Sure, deer can come from any direction, and you'll get winded once in a while, but you'll come out ahead more times than not once you figure out their movements. I sure do appreciate everyone's experience, knowledge and advice around here. I have learned a few things so far this year. One being wind direction and another is good cover. I'm hunting from the ground and know both of those are vital along with movement. I had a doe 5-10 yds behind me with the wind in my face and got busted moving to sneak a look at her. Got busted another time, heard a deer stomping behind me no more than 5-10 ft behind, was smoking a cigarette on that one. So I am learning and I know eventually I'll get it just right. I personally do use the fresh earth scent wafers and I do feel that they are effective. I have had several deer down wind from me that are mature and have not been winded yet this year. With that said, I do take scent control with my clothes, field spray, and showers seriously every time before heading to the woods. If you are hunting from the ground there is no use for the scent wafers. The best thing you can do is find cover like you said but also clear the ground of all leaves and sticks where you are sitting. This will prevent noise plus the natural dirt scent from the cleared ground will help to cover some of your scent. It is impossible to eliminate all scent. Best of luck to you.
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Post by beermaker on Oct 20, 2016 12:41:25 GMT -5
I would not fart with wafers if they were free. Just one more thing(s) to clutter up my already too big pack.
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Post by squirrelhunter on Oct 20, 2016 16:30:30 GMT -5
I've been using all but the acorn 1 for years,can't really say they've helped or hurt,who knows what's going through the deer's mind.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 16:35:43 GMT -5
I've been using all but the acorn 1 for years,can't really say they've helped or hurt,who knows what's going through the deer's mind. Right now: Bucks - find the does and does run from the bucks.
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Post by poc on Oct 20, 2016 17:47:46 GMT -5
I'm fairly knowledgeable on trees and such, ask away. Edit: Maybe I'll start a new thread.
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Post by wesb81219 on Oct 20, 2016 17:55:26 GMT -5
I'm fairly knowledgeable on trees and such, ask away. Edit: Maybe I'll start a new thread. I don't have an questions at this time but I will definitely keep that in mind thanks
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Post by raymar on Oct 20, 2016 21:16:15 GMT -5
I use them in my storage totes for my clothes. I have a bottle of dirt scented oil stuff that I bought from a craftingredients online store. It smells identical as the earth wafer and I mix it in my homemade scent killer and a bottle that just has water that I spray clothes with. Never really thought it has hurt me.
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