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Post by tynimiller on May 19, 2016 15:51:32 GMT -5
Another vote for the muzzleloader. Mine can double that OP's max distance..... But now they are nowhere close to his budget. I've seen used T/C Omegas or Traditions Pursuits or similar for cheap at shops. Just check the rifling for cleanliness/care marks.
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Post by wesb81219 on May 19, 2016 19:06:28 GMT -5
I have a .54 cal Thompson center hawken but it's giving me trouble. I'm trying to sight it in but every shot is doing something different. I get a shot on paper adjust the sight (very little might I add ) then the next shot is either not on paper or way off of what the adjustment should have done. I'm shooting 60 gr of pyrodex and Hornady round balls
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Post by nfalls116 on May 19, 2016 19:07:50 GMT -5
I have a .54 cal Thompson center hawken but it's giving me trouble. I'm trying to sight it in but every shot is doing something different. I get a shot on paper adjust the sight (very little might I add ) then the next shot is either not on paper or way off of what the adjustment should have done. I'm shooting 60 gr of pyrodex and Hornady round balls try a conical bullet
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Post by wesb81219 on May 19, 2016 19:18:27 GMT -5
Yea great plains rounds are my next move and if those don't do any better she's a goner
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Post by nfalls116 on May 19, 2016 19:21:41 GMT -5
Yea great plains rounds are my next move and if those don't do any better she's a goner I use maxi-bullets and they will kill a deer pretty dead and they are pretty cheap
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Post by wesb81219 on May 19, 2016 20:35:25 GMT -5
Could not swabbing the barrel between shots cause inaccuracies? I did use brass brush every few shots and noticed some build up but didn't want to spray powder blaster between shots to help clean it out
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Post by nfalls116 on May 19, 2016 20:45:13 GMT -5
Could not swabbing the barrel between shots cause inaccuracies? I did use brass brush every few shots and noticed some build up but didn't want to spray powder blaster between shots to help clean it out I'm no expert and have only had a muzzleloader for a short while but I hunt with a dirty gun because if I need a second shot in the woods I dont want to think my gun is still going to be accurate I want to know what its going to do when its dirty. Plus They got away from roundballs for a reason. Only reason for them is nostalgia IMO. Like I said I'm no expert there are far more knowledgeable people on here just telling ya how I do it and I can kill a target or a deer pretty dead with my combination I'm going to practice thus summer with one hundred yard+ shots
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Post by wesb81219 on May 19, 2016 20:53:49 GMT -5
I wanted to get mine sighted at 50 yds that's all the range I have at home. but then take it to the range to try 100 yds. If I can't get it at 50 there's no point in attempting 100
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Post by nfalls116 on May 19, 2016 20:57:42 GMT -5
I wanted to get mine sighted at 50 yds that's all the range I have at home. but then take it to the range to try 100 yds. If I can't get it at 50 there's no point in attempting 100 I'd say buy a few different bullets and a few different powders and make sure all the screws are tight and then just start trying different combos.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on May 19, 2016 21:29:23 GMT -5
I'd also try some different powder charges, 75, 90, 100 grains, etc. It ought to shoot for you, just have to find that right combination.
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Post by nfalls116 on May 19, 2016 21:38:09 GMT -5
I'd also try some different powder charges, 75, 90, 100 grains, etc. It ought to shoot for you, just have to find that right combination. that too... I use pellets, so its one or two pellets for me
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Post by firstwd on May 19, 2016 21:52:48 GMT -5
I'd also try some different powder charges, 75, 90, 100 grains, etc. It ought to shoot for you, just have to find that right combination. that too... I use pellets, so its one or two pellets for me Get away from the easy way. I am the old school type that will always recommend loose powder. 110g powder, 240g sabot, 1 1/2" groups at 200 yards, and the wonderful smell of sulphur in the morning.
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Post by nfalls116 on May 19, 2016 21:58:03 GMT -5
that too... I use pellets, so its one or two pellets for me Get away from the easy way. I am the old school type that will always recommend loose powder. 110g powder, 240g sabot, 1 1/2" groups at 200 yards, and the wonderful smell of sulphur in the morning. I know I know, I just love that easy way. I'm scared once I start loose powder it will be a slippery slope... Like its a gateway to more money being spent. But if I can't make my gun accurate at 100+yards I will switch to loose
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Post by drs on May 20, 2016 4:49:46 GMT -5
Yea great plains rounds are my next move and if those don't do any better she's a goner I use maxi-bullets and they will kill a deer pretty dead and they are pretty cheap I've used T/C maxi bullets on a few Deer hunts and found them to not be the ideal choice. First they are not all that accurate and they can go right through a Deer which means a possible loss of that Deer. Using sabot: like a jacketed .442" or .451" weight of some 200 gr. to 250 grain pistol bullets are much more accurate and will drop your Deer in its tracks. At least that is the experience I've had with sabots vrs T/C maxi-balls or maxi-Hunter bullets.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on May 20, 2016 6:17:22 GMT -5
that too... I use pellets, so its one or two pellets for me Get away from the easy way. I am the old school type that will always recommend loose powder. 110g powder, 240g sabot, 1 1/2" groups at 200 yards, and the wonderful smell of sulphur in the morning. Is that with an in-line? I've never tried sabots in my Hawken, as I've read that the rate of twist (1:48) isn't ideal. I like roundballs, Hornady Great Plains, and the heavier PowerBelts. My rifle shoots them all pretty well at 50 yards.
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Post by dbd870 on May 20, 2016 6:41:24 GMT -5
Have to agree with firstwd on the powder - I use Goex in my flint and my inlines. I have never tried a sabot in my flint for the same reason, it too is a 1:48 twist.
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Post by nfalls116 on May 20, 2016 6:53:09 GMT -5
Fine... Wes, ive reached a verdict. Buy the 30-30 its as much gun as you will likely ever need in Indiana for deer hunting. Secondly practice some combos with that muzzy, where are you located?
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Post by nfalls116 on May 20, 2016 7:06:05 GMT -5
I use maxi-bullets and they will kill a deer pretty dead and they are pretty cheap I've used T/C maxi bullets on a few Deer hunts and found them to not be the ideal choice. First they are not all that accurate and they can go right through a Deer which means a possible loss of that Deer. Using sabot: like a jacketed .442" or .451" weight of some 200 gr. to 250 grain pistol bullets are much more accurate and will drop your Deer in its tracks. At least that is the experience I've had with sabots vrs T/C maxi-balls or maxi-Hunter bullets. I generally try for my bullet to pass through the bridge of the nose and out in the area of the atlas joint it seems to drop them like a sack of boiled cannon balls
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Post by tynimiller on May 20, 2016 7:20:59 GMT -5
Wes, if you don't have an inline....keep your eyes out....inline muzzleloaders are some of the most lethal and fun things to shoot. Modern enough to be amazingly accurate but still the traditional needs of barrel maintenance and cleaning...also finding the proper load. (I prefer loose powder personally as well).
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Post by wesb81219 on May 20, 2016 9:08:11 GMT -5
Fine... Wes, ive reached a verdict. Buy the 30-30 its as much gun as you will likely ever need in Indiana for deer hunting. Secondly practice some combos with that muzzy, where are you located? Laporte
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