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Post by wesb81219 on May 14, 2016 16:36:17 GMT -5
I did a drive around this new property today and no one was hunting so I walked around for about 3 hours. I found 4 stands set up and of course all the good spots along the agricultural land had stands already placed. Looks like it's going to be a lot of work to find a good spot deeper in. On the upside there is some water in there so I think that is where I'll concentrate for now unless I can find a bedding area.
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May 14, 2016 18:37:32 GMT -5
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Post by M4Madness on May 14, 2016 18:37:32 GMT -5
Another consideration is that one or more of the hunters there may not use lock-on or ladder stands. Some may solely use climbing stands.
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Post by firstwd on May 14, 2016 18:43:34 GMT -5
I have 5 stands and 3 blinds on the property that usually only 2 of us hunt. You can't tell everything by what you find in the woods.
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Post by nfalls116 on May 14, 2016 19:09:05 GMT -5
I would see if the landowner would help you get into contact with the other hunters
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Post by wesb81219 on May 14, 2016 19:14:03 GMT -5
A few of the stands looked older and I do know there is a guy who has been a regular for a while so it's possible that more than one of those is his. It shouldn't be a problem I just have to do some work. There are a lot of ridges bordering the water on this property, in fact a lot of ridges period. so I like I said gotta do my homework, perhaps a deep woods food plot near the water will help. I only have one cam but my wife is going to get me another for father's day so I'll get them out and go from there.
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Post by M4Madness on May 15, 2016 8:45:37 GMT -5
Look at a topgraphical map of the area, and look for saddles in the many ridges you are describing. You may even get lucky and have a hub. Those are the places you want to key in on in hilly areas. I, myself, wouldn't bother with any sort of plot.
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Post by wesb81219 on May 15, 2016 9:51:41 GMT -5
I have huntstand app and it can go topo so I will definitely take a look at it. there is a swampy are and a small pond with a small creek running out of it. the entire edge of the swamp, pond and creek has ridges and valleys.
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Post by hunter7x on May 19, 2016 8:39:16 GMT -5
I have been on both sides of this. I had permission on a property, 280 acres had free roam of it, going on 20 years. land owner told me I could allow or not allow others on at my discretion. Then one day a few years ago I received a call from him saying he gave a couple of other guys permission. That turned into 3 guys. 280 acres sounds like a lot until you try to have 4 guys hunt it. 280 acres 80 acres of woods the rest tillable. I limited doe harvest they shot whatever they saw. I passed young bucks they shot whatever they saw. I had sanctuaries established they put stands in them, I went in early and stayed late they didn't lol, I don't "walk around" they did. After 20 years of hunting a property it becomes very personal to you. In trying to be the nice guy and get along I slowly lost what I felt I had worked hard to make into a great piece of land. This in turn led me to seek permission on another piece of property across the county road. Which I received after trading out some hvac work with the land owner. She told me there was another guy hunting it and gave me his number. I called him to introduce myself and compare notes so we could work together. This was an older man who has hunted the property also for over 20 years. He was very offended and upset when I told him I had received permission. He is an opening weekend of gun season hunter. Uses one ground hut as he calls it, the same one same spot every time he hunts. He kills one deer a year opening weekend and he is done. But he proceeded to inform me that I would be ruining his hunting and he didn't want me on there. I listened to him and politely told him he had no idea what kind of hunter I was and I would absolutely not ruin his hunting.I told him I would bowhunt only if that would be better for him or never be on there at the same time as him. Nope that didn't work either. He was going to speak to the land owner and tell her he didn't want me on there. Well instead of causing that drama for the landowner I told him I would respect his feelings and not hunt it. I told him I understood completely and told him my story of the new guys on "my" land. Thanked him for his time and hung up. 2 weeks later he he called me back and apologized and told me if I met him up there he would show me where I could hunt, as long as I bowhunted only and was never there when he was there lol. So in a way it worked out. He ALLOWED me to hunt one small 10 acre wood lot on the 120 acres. But he turned out to be a nice guy and we get along fine. Good luck in your venture.
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Post by hunter7x on May 19, 2016 8:44:10 GMT -5
Oh and P.S. There are just as many yahoos on private as there is on public ground lol
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Post by M4Madness on May 20, 2016 16:33:22 GMT -5
I've been on both sides too. I secured permission to hunt two great farms once years ago, but declined when the landowners informed me that others hunted there. They both said that there was room for all, but I told them that I wouldn't be comfortable and thanked them.
I've really only had to deal with others on two of the farms I hunt. One is 250 acres that a coworker of the landowner called me to introduce himself, and stated he would be hunting there too. It stung a little after years of growing deer there, but I took it all in stride and shared trail camera video of lots of good bucks with the guy. I was covered in deer all season, and he struggled to see any, and finally took a spike late in muzzleloader season and never came back the following year.
The second instance is still ongoing. I took my best archery buck ever the first week of October in 2013 on a 350-acre farm. Someone heard about it and secured permission to hunt a 100+ acre farm beside it that I can hunt too. That opening morning of firearms season, the guy shot a small buck and three does, losing one of the does (I found its bones later.) He comes back every firearms opener, shoots a small buck and two or three does, and is gone for another year. I pray that he never lucks into one of my good bucks. Lol!
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Post by wesb81219 on May 20, 2016 18:04:06 GMT -5
I will definitely do my best to go unnoticed and just do my thing. I'm one of those in early out late guys and that is also why I'm going deep in. I'm going to make a mineral site tomorrow and will be doing a deep woods food plot. Plenty of scouting and cam placement should help. I'm not one of those opening gun guy's either. I will be hunting archery ,gun, and hopefully muzzy if I can get mine tweaked.
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May 20, 2016 19:10:48 GMT -5
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Post by M4Madness on May 20, 2016 19:10:48 GMT -5
Be sure to set up your mineral site where you can remove affected soil easily at least 10 days prior to the start of your hunting. Good luck and best wishes!
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Post by firstwd on May 20, 2016 20:31:19 GMT -5
Be sure to set up your mineral site where you can remove affected soil easily at least 10 days prior to the start of your hunting. Good luck and best wishes! And the other guys' hunting......
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Post by wesb81219 on May 25, 2016 19:43:04 GMT -5
I got in touch with one of the other hunters and went to meet him today. he was welcoming, very nice and helpful. I told him I appreciate him being such and offered the same in return. he did give me the heads up on a couple shady guys that use to hunt there but don't any more but they have showed up and ruined his hunt before.
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