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Post by trapperdave on May 4, 2016 9:43:55 GMT -5
I wouldn't do it for deer.....but, having some northern heritage, I see no problem with baiting for bear or using bait while trapping therefore I'll abstain from opining rather than be a hypocrite.
Unlike some who think its OK to hunt feeders in Texas but not OK here....cough.Joe Bacon..cough
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Post by cindy on May 4, 2016 10:34:16 GMT -5
I don't see any need to bait when you can hunt natural food sources and crops. If there were no natural food sources or crops there would be no deer they would have starved to death.
Sitting watching a bait pile isn't for me.
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Post by firstwd on May 4, 2016 16:02:27 GMT -5
Trying to kill a deer with a self bow and stone broadheads isn't for me either, but I don't have an issue with other people doing it. Baiting falls within that category with me.
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Post by beermaker on May 4, 2016 18:01:55 GMT -5
I usually shoot as many deer as my family can eat without feeding, so why would I do it? Besides, I'm too damn cheap and lazy. Also, my hunting grounds are too far away to establish a feeding spot.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on May 4, 2016 18:10:40 GMT -5
I'm ready:
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Post by medic22 on May 4, 2016 18:41:54 GMT -5
Ive said before, food plots and ag fields are the same to me. So no on baiting.
However, I want to bait deer with bacon.
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Post by wesb81219 on May 4, 2016 19:50:20 GMT -5
I like the idea of having to be a set distance from any man made food plot or mineral site with agricultural fields being farmed excluded. But then that leaves room for discretion of the co to play a role unless you can prove to them ok here's my treestand or here's my ground blind or whatever you hunt from.
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Post by gilder on May 5, 2016 7:44:33 GMT -5
I said nyet! lol
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Post by boonechaser on May 5, 2016 8:44:47 GMT -5
I would imagine that if baiting were made legal that the state would prohibit baiting on PUBLIC LAND just as it has done with the high powered rifle and only would be legal on private land. I suspect more landowners are against legalized baiting than non landowners.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on May 5, 2016 9:08:35 GMT -5
I would imagine that if baiting were made legal that the state would prohibit baiting on PUBLIC LAND just as it has done with the high powered rifle and only would be legal on private land. I suspect more landowners are against legalized baiting than non landowners. No doubt about it. A good way to get shot would be to intrude on another hunter's bait pile on public land. ...and I'm not thinking accident here.
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Post by tynimiller on May 5, 2016 9:39:13 GMT -5
I bet that caveat of not on public would also happen IF they legalized it.
I'm personally against it however IF they decide to legalize it, I believe it should exclude timed release bait equipment. That to me personally becomes even less hunting as you condition the deer to the timing of bait release....I can still remember one off season we used a battery powered timed feeder from February to March in harsh winter times and the deer and turkeys were on the thing within 2-4 minutes of release.
We quickly realized it wasn't healthy for the deer to depend on this minimal nutrient rich corn as their primary intake during harsh winters (this is before we had our woods brows rich and plots in).
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Post by henson59 on May 5, 2016 9:41:43 GMT -5
I would be ok with baiting. For me its the same as the HPR's. Just because its legal doesn't mean you have to take part in it. I don't really see myself hunting over a bait pile but I like the idea of not having to close up my mineral sites and in some cases dig up the soil.
Also I can see this as a benefit for any hunter who may not have much time to hunt but still needs/wants to put some meat in the freezer. I had a friend a couple years ago who because of work and family issues was only going to be able to hunt 3 or 4 days the entire season. In the past he and his family had counted on having 2-3 deer in the freezer to help feed his family. Well if he would have been able to bait he may have been able to get a couple deer instead of going without.
The baiting argument is just like the HPR discussion and the call of a reduction in tags. There are always going to be hunters on both sides and in most of their minds the other side is just dead wrong.
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Post by boonechaser on May 5, 2016 10:00:16 GMT -5
^^^^^ Agree it probably wouldn't have a major impact. Suspect a few more doe and younger deer and a occasional good buck would be shot off bait. Personally I trophy hunt and rarely hunt over any of my food plot's. Majority of my stands are on travel corridor's and funnel's that lead to food source's. Experience has taught me that the further away from food source's and closer to bedding area's are the place to be.
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Post by Land Between the Lakes on May 6, 2016 17:28:07 GMT -5
Baiting doesn't always work in your favor. Sometimes it pulls more deer to your land. However, if other surrounding properties start baiting then they may pull deer from your land to theirs. Bait piles can spread disease. If a deer with a disease is eating from the same pile as healthy deer, then it may spread the disease to other deer. Baiting can also congregate deer to one area of a property which can cause deer density issues.
In a large agriculture state like Indiana I don't see a need for baiting.
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Post by Land Between the Lakes on May 6, 2016 17:33:38 GMT -5
I would imagine that if baiting were made legal that the state would prohibit baiting on PUBLIC LAND just as it has done with the high powered rifle and only would be legal on private land. I suspect more landowners are against legalized baiting than non landowners. I work on a large public land that does not allow baiting. One reason it could potentially spread disease. Another reason it would give some hunters somewhat of an unfair advantage. Also on the public land I work for deer limits are created based on somewhat of a belief that deer numbers are somewhat distributed fairly equally. Baiting would potentially cause deer to not be as equally spread out, but rather more likely in some cases to be congregated into areas where bait is present. This could cause some areas to have too few deer, and other areas to have too many deer. This not only would be bad for the environment but could result in poor hunting in certain areas.
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Post by M4Madness on May 7, 2016 20:11:36 GMT -5
People that are complaining about low deer sightings now will really be howling when their neighbor dumps a truckload of bait and every deer in the area is drawn away to their property. Lol!
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Post by greghopper on May 7, 2016 20:34:36 GMT -5
People that are complaining about low deer sightings now will really be howling when their neighbor dumps a truckload of bait and every deer in the area is drawn away to their property. Lol! Biggest Bait pile wins.....
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Post by trapperdave on May 7, 2016 20:41:36 GMT -5
People that are complaining about low deer sightings now will really be howling when their neighbor dumps a truckload of bait and every deer in the area is drawn away to their property. Lol! Biggest Bait pile wins..... Wins a woods full of raccoons and fat squirrels. Lol
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Post by GS1 on May 7, 2016 23:55:49 GMT -5
People that are complaining about low deer sightings now will really be howling when their neighbor dumps a truckload of bait and every deer in the area is drawn away to their property. Lol! Biggest Bait pile wins..... I know nothing about the results of baiting other than hearing my friends in Kentucky talk about it, but I fished with a guide in Wisconsin that claimed the exact same thing. Biggest bait pile wins.
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Post by nfalls116 on May 7, 2016 23:59:16 GMT -5
I changed my mind, if I can't bait all other game animals I dont want to be able to bait deer.
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