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Post by esshup on Mar 18, 2016 14:19:18 GMT -5
Caught this year. He feeds the fish in the pond, and his goal this year is to get one to tip the 2# mark. His fish have some room to swim around, that pond is 11 acres.
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Post by parson on Mar 18, 2016 16:14:47 GMT -5
Them be some nice 'gills!!
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Post by duff on Mar 18, 2016 19:36:48 GMT -5
Wow! My kind of gill
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Post by esshup on Mar 18, 2016 19:57:16 GMT -5
He's hoping to pull out a 2# 'gill this year. All he needs to do is add a couple more ounces on some of the ones that he has now.
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Post by duff on Mar 18, 2016 20:26:15 GMT -5
He's got nice nails :-)
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Post by esshup on Mar 18, 2016 22:57:21 GMT -5
That's what I told him and he said he was telling the boss that I made fun of the colors. I'm in deep doo-doo now!!!!! lol I had a box ready to ship to him with some Amish Maple syrup in it, and now it will be addressed to the boss instead of him. I know how to get out of trouble!!!!
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Post by nfalls116 on Mar 19, 2016 1:24:49 GMT -5
I'd say if he has some right now that only need a couple ounces come spring when they are full of eggs he will be set
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Post by duff on Mar 19, 2016 6:40:24 GMT -5
That's what I told him and he said he was telling the boss that I made fun of the colors. I'm in deep doo-doo now!!!!! lol I had a box ready to ship to him with some Amish Maple syrup in it, and now it will be addressed to the boss instead of him. I know how to get out of trouble!!!! Come to think of it...I am pretty mad at you too. I will pm you my address.
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Post by nfalls116 on Mar 19, 2016 6:54:04 GMT -5
That's what I told him and he said he was telling the boss that I made fun of the colors. I'm in deep doo-doo now!!!!! lol I had a box ready to ship to him with some Amish Maple syrup in it, and now it will be addressed to the boss instead of him. I know how to get out of trouble!!!! Come to think of it...I am pretty mad at you too. I will pm you my address. have to agree with Duff on this one... I'm fairly upset with you myself
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Post by schall53 on Mar 19, 2016 7:41:25 GMT -5
Wow, those aren't hybrids either, are they?
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Mar 19, 2016 10:16:11 GMT -5
I got some 12 inchers in my pond, but they don't look like those frisbees. Nice. Feeding defiantly helps them grow.
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Post by esshup on Mar 19, 2016 11:43:11 GMT -5
That's what I told him and he said he was telling the boss that I made fun of the colors. I'm in deep doo-doo now!!!!! lol I had a box ready to ship to him with some Amish Maple syrup in it, and now it will be addressed to the boss instead of him. I know how to get out of trouble!!!! Come to think of it...I am pretty mad at you too. I will pm you my address. I'm sending them a container like this:
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Post by deadeer on Mar 19, 2016 11:46:07 GMT -5
Great picture! I can vouch that its yummy!
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Post by esshup on Mar 19, 2016 11:57:40 GMT -5
Wow, those aren't hybrids either, are they?
Nope! The fish on the ruler is a Coppernose Bluegill, the other one is a regular Bluegill.
He was using Cargill food, but switched to using Optimal Sunfish food, which is specifically formulated for the different types of Sunfish. i.e., Bluegill, Hybrid Bluegill, Pumpkinseed Sunfish and Redear Sunfish.
This is what it looks like:
It's just under $47 per 40# delivered to your door, but it is equivalent to 60# of Purina Aquamax feed and the fish have shown to grow pretty well on it, but not have the fatty deposits around the liver like some other feeds will produce. I did a feed trial last year, with Hybrid Bluegills in a cage. I started out with the same number and size of fish in each cage, fed the same amount of food per day to each cage, at the same time every day. The feed trial went on for 3 months.
The top fish was from the cage that was fed Sportsman's Choice from Tractor Supply.
The middle fish was from the cage that was fed Purina Aquamax Sportfish 500
The bottom fish was from the cage that was fed Optimal Sunfish Food.
As a test, I also had 250 Hybrid Striped Bass that I fed the Optimal Sunfish food to. In 5 months they went from 4"-6" fish to 10"-12" fish. This year Optimal will be coming out with a food blended for carnivore fish (Largemouth Bass, Hybrid Striped Bass and Smallmouth Bass) and a food blended for Yellow Perch.
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Post by Woody Williams on Mar 19, 2016 12:39:21 GMT -5
This is really interesting . I knew people do feed their pond fish but never realized what a difference it could make..
Thanks esshup!
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Post by featherduster on Mar 19, 2016 13:12:14 GMT -5
Is his feeder automatic and if so what is the power source.
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Post by esshup on Mar 19, 2016 14:07:22 GMT -5
He has both automatic and he also hand feeds (like I do). Power source is the sun. His feeder is sitting on the dock, and throws the feed out in a triangle shape. It will throw feed 40'-60' and it will be about 20' wide at that distance. He could angle it down more towards the water and not throw as far.
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Post by esshup on Mar 19, 2016 14:30:04 GMT -5
This is really interesting . I knew people do feed their pond fish but never realized what a difference it could make.. Thanks esshup! Woody, it ain't your grandpas farm pond anymore!!! Here's some rough stats for you. Ponds can only hold "X" amount of living critters in it. It's called the biochemical demand. Everything in the pond needs O2 to live. Plants, algae, plankton gives off O2 during the day, and uses it at night. The warmer the water, the less O2 it can hold. Fish typically need around 5 ppm or 5 mg/l or higher to thrive, some can survive in as low as 3 ppm or 3 mg/l. Ponds get the most O2 from the water touching the air. The next most gets put into pond water by phytoplankton, then by plants. A pond does not need to have vascular (rooted) plants in it, but without them something will utilize the nutrients in a pond, and that most likely will be algae. A pond can safely hold around 300# of fish per surface acre without having O2 depletion issues during most of the year - it will have issues if it gets more than a couple of inches of cloudy ice and more than an inch of snow on it for more than 3-4 weeks. Feed the fish and you can safely hold around 500-600# of fish per surface acre but you might run into O2 issues during winter or in the heat of summer (especially right before sunrise when O2 levels are typically at the lowest in a pond). Add a properly designed bottom diffuser aeration system that is run 24/7/365, feed the fish and you can safely hold up to around 1,000# of fish per surface acre all year long. In ponds that are used for fish production, and where water quality parameters are monitored, they can have in excess of 5,000# of fish per surface acre..... Rough conversion food rates are as follows: A fish that is eating other fish will need to eat 10# of fish to put on one pound of weight. A fish that is eating fish food can gain one pound of weight from two pounds of high quality fish food. Feeding lower quality fish food, even though it is cheaper per pound will cost you more money in the long run. Fish will not utilize as much of the food, pooping out more waste, which in turn will go to fertilizer to feed the plants and most likely algae in a pond. Algae is a less complex life form than plants, and will out compete plants. That is the floating green mat that you typically see on many ponds. Then you will have to put up with the excess plants/algae, add fish to eat it/them, chemically treat it or do a combination of both. Dye in a pond will help some, but typically not in water less than 4' deep. Dye works by cutting down on the sunlight penetration into the water, and wherever sunlight can get to the pond bottom, plants and algae will grow.
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Post by duff on Mar 19, 2016 21:21:00 GMT -5
good explanation. As I was in college for fishery biology my professor was strongly against feeding fish in a pond because of the threat of nutrient loading and the problems that causes. Times have changed and if you are actively engaged in your pond and know how to respond to the symptoms you make a strong case for growing some monsters!
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Post by esshup on Mar 20, 2016 0:30:03 GMT -5
good explanation. As I was in college for fishery biology my professor was strongly against feeding fish in a pond because of the threat of nutrient loading and the problems that causes. Times have changed and if you are actively engaged in your pond and know how to respond to the symptoms you make a strong case for growing some monsters! Very correct. Things have changed greatly from your typical Largemouth Bass/Bluegill/Channel Catfish pond! Ponds can have fish in it that nobody even considers. AND in areas of the country that nobody could think was possible. I know of a guy who raised some 5+# Smallmouth Bass in a pond in a Phoenix, AZ. suburb. Hybrid Striped Bass in Texas ponds, Rainbow Trout in Texas ponds during the winter, Yellow Perch, Walleye, etc., etc. as far south as Georgia. I know a pond owner that has a freshwater pond in Florida. He has Tarpon, Flounder, Snook, Mullet, Jack Crevalle (I think), Red Drum and some other fish in there that you would never think about putting into a freshwater pond. The biggest thing to watch is water quality. If you have that handled, and there is enough dissolved O2 in the water, then your imagination is the limit on what you can have (and water temp).
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