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Post by drs on Mar 1, 2016 13:56:03 GMT -5
It is amazing to me how many people actually want HPR's. I think it is a ridiculous idea. Why would anyone need a HPR to shoot a deer. I personally wont feel safe knowing that I am surrounded by individuals with HPRs. We have too many hunters per square mile in Indiana for hprs. I am in west central Indiana and I don't see using a hprs as a logical decision. We have a declining population in my area and why not make it easier for people to shoot deer. I am completely against this bill. It needs to die ASAP. Nothing good would come from introducing more high powered rifles in Indiana. What do you use to hunt Deer?? Are you also against P.C.R.s' also??
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Post by throbak on Mar 1, 2016 13:58:24 GMT -5
FACE BOOK GUYS you notice All of the Senators and House reps on their Smart phones Instant communication !!!!!
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Post by bonecollector23 on Mar 1, 2016 14:07:02 GMT -5
It is amazing to me how many people actually want HPR's. I think it is a ridiculous idea. Why would anyone need a HPR to shoot a deer. I personally wont feel safe knowing that I am surrounded by individuals with HPRs. We have too many hunters per square mile in Indiana for hprs. I am in west central Indiana and I don't see using a hprs as a logical decision. We have a declining population in my area and why not make it easier for people to shoot deer. I am completely against this bill. It needs to die ASAP. Nothing good would come from introducing more high powered rifles in Indiana. What do you use to hunt Deer?? Are you also against P.C.R.s' also?? I am really not a fan of PCR's either. However they don't have near the range of the HPR's. In my opinion, We shouldn't use either.
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Post by parrothead on Mar 1, 2016 14:10:37 GMT -5
So the HPR passed Hatchet?
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Post by esshup on Mar 1, 2016 14:15:16 GMT -5
It is amazing to me how many people actually want HPR's. I think it is a ridiculous idea. Why would anyone need a HPR to shoot a deer. I personally wont feel safe knowing that I am surrounded by individuals with HPRs. We have too many hunters per square mile in Indiana for hprs. I am in west central Indiana and I don't see using a hprs as a logical decision. We have a declining population in my area and why not make it easier for people to shoot deer. I am completely against this bill. It needs to die ASAP. Nothing good would come from introducing more high powered rifles in Indiana. Do you feel safe knowing that there are hunters out there using those same HPR's for varmints? Maybe the people that are on the "for" side of the fence should look at the bills passing in a different light. When it's proven that there isn't a massacre of the deer herd in the southern part of the state, and when it's shown that there are massive hunter die offs from being shot by dangerous HPR's, then that will open the door for it to become legal in the rest of the state. For me personally? I'm happy that it passed for no other reason than if it's signed into law it will mean that purple paint will be legal to use to mark property boundaries. Since I don't hunt the southern part of the state, the other parts of the bill doesn't pertain to me. Now I'll go continue the research on a specialty pistol that I can use on the few private properties that I can hunt. For all the rest of my "firearm" deer hunting I will continue to use my Savage Muzzleloader.
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Post by Woody Williams on Mar 1, 2016 14:16:41 GMT -5
Well, that was certainly entertaining. 26-24. It passes. So now it gues to conference where they hash out the differences?
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Post by hornzilla on Mar 1, 2016 14:20:28 GMT -5
Well, that was certainly entertaining. 26-24. It passes. So now it gues to conference where they hash out the differences? What all will take place with this bill there? This is all new to me. I have always been a guy that looked at the rules and then played the game.
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Post by GS1 on Mar 1, 2016 14:24:29 GMT -5
It is amazing to me how many people actually want HPR's. I think it is a ridiculous idea. Why would anyone need a HPR to shoot a deer. I personally wont feel safe knowing that I am surrounded by individuals with HPRs. We have too many hunters per square mile in Indiana for hprs. I am in west central Indiana and I don't see using a hprs as a logical decision. We have a declining population in my area and why not make it easier for people to shoot deer. I am completely against this bill. It needs to die ASAP. Nothing good would come from introducing more high powered rifles in Indiana. Maybe that's the real agenda. Get people scared and they will stay home. Thus not shooting any deer and in part increasing the herd all while keeping the limits the same and looking like they are still trying to reduce the herd to the insurance companies. Sarcasm of course, but I guess you won't be participating in firearms if it goes through?
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Post by jjas on Mar 1, 2016 14:32:22 GMT -5
BoneCollector
If you look @ most pcrs, they are very similar from a ballistic standpoint (bullet weight/velocity and ballistic coefficient) to many of the newer 20 gauge saboted slugs and 50 cal muzzleloader loads. That's why I never really understood the basis of people's issues with them....unless you just don't want muzzleloaders and saboted slug guns legal either.....
As far as hprs are concerned, my support from them was primarily due to the fact that we can legally hunt deer with pistols chambered in the same calibers and thus it has never made sense to me to include pistols but not the rifles.
Regardless....this particular bill is a screwed up joke and I have let the people who were elected to represent me know so....
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Post by Woody Williams on Mar 1, 2016 14:53:27 GMT -5
Question for those in the know.. What does the original author of this bill have to say about it? If it is so far out from what he wanted can he say forget it and pull it?
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Post by jjas on Mar 1, 2016 14:59:05 GMT -5
Question for those in the know.. What does the original author of this bill have to say about it? If it is so far out from what he wanted can he say forget it and pull it? I have no idea, but I certainly wouldn't want my name associated with the b*stardized mess it's been turned into.
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Post by dbd870 on Mar 1, 2016 15:03:23 GMT -5
It is amazing to me how many people actually want HPR's. I think it is a ridiculous idea. Why would anyone need a HPR to shoot a deer. I personally wont feel safe knowing that I am surrounded by individuals with HPRs. We have too many hunters per square mile in Indiana for hprs. I am in west central Indiana and I don't see using a hprs as a logical decision. We have a declining population in my area and why not make it easier for people to shoot deer. I am completely against this bill. It needs to die ASAP. Nothing good would come from introducing more high powered rifles in Indiana. Have you actually done any research into HPR's, or are just just assuming they are so much more dangerous? Are you aware of the results of the study PA commissioned several years back?
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Post by bart1533 on Mar 1, 2016 15:07:03 GMT -5
It is amazing to me how many people actually want HPR's. I think it is a ridiculous idea. Why would anyone need a HPR to shoot a deer. I personally wont feel safe knowing that I am surrounded by individuals with HPRs. We have too many hunters per square mile in Indiana for hprs. I am in west central Indiana and I don't see using a hprs as a logical decision. We have a declining population in my area and why not make it easier for people to shoot deer. I am completely against this bill. It needs to die ASAP. Nothing good would come from introducing more high powered rifles in Indiana. Have you actually done any research into HPR's, or are just just assuming they are so much more dangerous? Are you aware of the results of the study PA commissioned several years back? ....some people are just stuck in the box....with no windows. ..
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Post by hornzilla on Mar 1, 2016 15:16:43 GMT -5
It is amazing to me how many people actually want HPR's. I think it is a ridiculous idea. Why would anyone need a HPR to shoot a deer. I personally wont feel safe knowing that I am surrounded by individuals with HPRs. We have too many hunters per square mile in Indiana for hprs. I am in west central Indiana and I don't see using a hprs as a logical decision. We have a declining population in my area and why not make it easier for people to shoot deer. I am completely against this bill. It needs to die ASAP. Nothing good would come from introducing more high powered rifles in Indiana. If you were safe in the woods yesterday, you will still be safe tomorrow. We have been using HPR's for sometime now. 358 Hoosier, 444, 4570, ect. And anything goes in our hand cannons. With a very good safety record.
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Post by Woody Williams on Mar 1, 2016 15:45:56 GMT -5
Question for those in the know.. What does the original author of this bill have to say about it? If it is so far out from what he wanted can he say forget it and pull it? I have no idea, but I certainly wouldn't want my name associated with the b*stardized mess it's been turned into. I understand he is not too happy with the bill in it's present form....
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Post by M4Madness on Mar 1, 2016 16:04:22 GMT -5
I have no idea, but I certainly wouldn't want my name associated with the b*stardized mess it's been turned into. I understand he is not too happy with the bill in it's present form.... I'm sure he's unhappy that his private ground clause was removed.
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Post by M4Madness on Mar 1, 2016 16:09:13 GMT -5
If they would re-add private ground, I'd be content with it as written. Throwing in the entire state would make me even more happy, as I'd like to see the Northerners get in on the action too.
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Post by dbd870 on Mar 1, 2016 17:44:24 GMT -5
If people would just stop and think about the other State's that use them and the lack of problems they would realize how much of a non-issue it is. But, but KY is so much less populated and different. No it really isn't the have the flat land in the west and the hills in the east and they have their more and less populated areas - guess what, in the more populated areas the blood hasn't run in the streets from HPR's. It's a whole bunch of hand wringing over nothing, just like the antigunners do when a bit of our rights are restored and as always the blood doesn't run then either.
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Post by throbak on Mar 1, 2016 17:53:13 GMT -5
Just coming back from Versailles Kentucky Saturday I couldn't help but notice There is no comparison to Ky HPR hunted ground and Indiana No Comparison
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Post by M4Madness on Mar 1, 2016 17:55:42 GMT -5
They use HPR's just fine in flat states too...
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