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Post by medic22 on Feb 4, 2016 9:15:38 GMT -5
As I mentioned in another thread, I'm sideling my 300 blackout and going back to 12g for deer.
I went back and forth for several weeks between buying a cantilever barrel for my 870, a Savage 212, The rossi rifled slug, and trying to scrounge up an ultra slug.
I decided against just buying a barrel because.....well, new guns are cool.
I gave up on the Ultra slug, and the 212 just didnt fit.
So, i took a shot on the Rossi, despite some warnings from gun buddies. Everything i read online was good.
WRONG.
Ive managed to fire 5 rounds out of 30, everything else was light primer strikes. One slug had 7 strikes and would not fire. I cleaned it again thinking i missed some grease, no luck. Even took the hammer extension off thinking it was slowing the hammer down. Nope. All i can figure is the hammer is catching the reciever and not strikeing the transfer bar cleanly.
Either way i called Rossi yesterday and got a shipping label. Ive heard CS is hit and miss, i guess ill know for sure in 4-6 weeks.
Its a good thing i start preparing for deer season in february.
Does anyone else own one of these particular models? Any similar issues?
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Post by omegahunter on Feb 5, 2016 14:44:06 GMT -5
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Post by bart1533 on Feb 5, 2016 21:20:25 GMT -5
I had one for a while. I took one deer with it. I basically had it for a loaner gun for when one of my buddies want to go hunting. I fancied it up with a ATI tactical stock. Had a great kill percentage. after bring sighted in gun was shot 5 times and took 5 deer. 2 were nice size bucks. Sold it about 2 years ago.
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Post by drs on Feb 6, 2016 6:03:34 GMT -5
.........They also have considerable recoil too!!  |
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Post by omegahunter on Feb 8, 2016 8:38:06 GMT -5
.........They also have considerable recoil too!! Honestly not that much different than any other 12 gauge slugger. The Ultra is a 10 guage blank bored to 12, so it is a heavy barrel and most people are aware than the H&R's are really a rather heavy gun for what they are. I don't think most would notice the difference in recoil of the Ultra from a Mossberg 500. If it were actually measured, the Ultra may have less recoil due to weight of the firearm. |
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Post by drs on Feb 8, 2016 10:38:07 GMT -5
.........They also have considerable recoil too!! Honestly not that much different than any other 12 gauge slugger. The Ultra is a 10 guage blank bored to 12, so it is a heavy barrel and most people are aware than the H&R's are really a rather heavy gun for what they are. I don't think most would notice the difference in recoil of the Ultra from a Mossberg 500. If it were actually measured, the Ultra may have less recoil due to weight of the firearm. I agree that not much difference exists dealing with brands single shots like H & R's. My Brother has a 12 gauge H & R that is choked for Turkey and shoots 2 3/4" up to 3 1/2" shells. The gun is fairly heavy, and I have fired it a couple of times with both 3" & 3 1/2" shells. MAN DID IT KICK!!! Made me step back a few steps when I fired it, and I wouldn't shoot it from the bench, if I were to change the choke to "Open Choke, to fire Foster type slugs. I have shot both a .460 WM & .378 WM, and this firing that monster shotgun with turkey choke in either 3" or 3 1/2" with Turkey loads kicked harder. I have a Browning Gold 20 gauge, which I have a regular shotgun barrel & a rifled barrel. When I fire it with 3" 20 gauge turkey loads with a Turkey choke, it has a very mild recoil also with sabot slug loads too. The semi-auto takes a lot of the "sting" out of the recoil. I guess when one is out Turkey or Deer Hunting and gets a chance to shoot; guess their mind is not on the amount of recoil "ANY" shotgun produces.  |
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Post by bullseye69 on Feb 8, 2016 19:12:53 GMT -5
Don't have a Rossi shotgun but got a Rossi single in 44mag and it works great.
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Post by drs on Feb 9, 2016 5:29:41 GMT -5
Don't have a Rossi shotgun but got a Rossi single in 44mag and it works great. The only "Rossi" brand rifle I own is their Model 92 PUMA, in .44-40, which is a Winchester M-'92 clone. It is fairly accurate and doesn't have much recoil. I once owned a Winchester Model 94 in .44 Magnum, I bought back in 1970. and this particular carbine DID have recoil, more so than a Model 94 in .30-30. It was very accurate though and I had a peep sight installed on it, which tighten 5-shot groupings. Now, I have a Ruger Model 77/.44 Mag. and while it is also accurate, it does have some recoil but not like the Winchester 94's. |
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Post by medic22 on Feb 9, 2016 19:41:48 GMT -5
This arrived at the manufacturer today.
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Post by bullseye69 on Feb 9, 2016 21:21:40 GMT -5
Don't have a Rossi shotgun but got a Rossi single in 44mag and it works great. The only "Rossi" brand rifle I own is their Model 92 PUMA, in .44-40, which is a Winchester M-'92 clone. It is fairly accurate and doesn't have much recoil. I once owned a Winchester Model 94 in .44 Magnum, I bought back in 1970. and this particular carbine DID have recoil, more so than a Model 94 in .30-30. It was very accurate though and I had a peep sight installed on it, which tighten 5-shot groupings. Now, I have a Ruger Model 77/.44 Mag. and while it is also accurate, it does have some recoil but not like the Winchester 94's. I have the Rossi lever gun in 454 casull and its fun and accurate to shoot. Has a little kick but not to bad. |
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Post by medic22 on Mar 2, 2016 17:01:15 GMT -5
I got a random text from fedex to say a packahe requiring signature would be here tomorrow. I opened the link and realized the slug gun is shipping back.
I had just checked the repair status on the rossi website last night. I checked it again and it still says waiting for repair. Go Rossi.
Hopefully ill get to shoot it tomorrow and see if its fixed.
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Post by medic22 on Mar 3, 2016 18:30:21 GMT -5
My light primer woes continued with the rossi. I took 10 rounds of various ammo that i had on hand. 6 rounds of winchester universal, 1 round of federal #6, 1 round of remington #8, and 1 round of winchester super x #6. I had 2 light strikes with the universal, everything else fired fine. The two universal rounds that didnt fire also wouldnt eject. I had to drop a sharpie down the barrel to push them out. So even though light primer strikes was the initial issue, i cant say for certain that it is the guns fault now since Universal is the absolute worst ammo on the market. Im pretty sure both the rounds were undersized and that was the issue. Ill run some more good ammo through it soon before i decide if im going to keep it.
FWIW, rossi replaced the hammer spring and sent it back. Seeing as though today was the most rounds ive managed to successfully shoot, id say that was the correct fix.
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Post by bullseye69 on Mar 4, 2016 20:52:20 GMT -5
Sounds like some of the shells are not seating completely in the chamber and the firing pin is pushing them the rest of the way in and its not able to get a good strike on the shell moving forward, maybe?
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Post by medic22 on Mar 4, 2016 21:07:50 GMT -5
Sounds like some of the shells are not seating completely in the chamber and the firing pin is pushing them the rest of the way in and its not able to get a good strike on the shell moving forward, maybe? I think its something similiar to that. The universal shells have thin aluminum bases and i think they slid too far into the chamber. So far anything brass has fired fine since it was returned. |
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Post by bullseye69 on Mar 4, 2016 22:49:50 GMT -5
Sounds like some of the shells are not seating completely in the chamber and the firing pin is pushing them the rest of the way in and its not able to get a good strike on the shell moving forward, maybe? I think its something similiar to that. The universal shells have thin aluminum bases and i think they slid too far into the chamber. So far anything brass has fired fine since it was returned. Will they fire on the second strike? |
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Post by medic22 on Mar 5, 2016 9:05:41 GMT -5
I think its something similiar to that. The universal shells have thin aluminum bases and i think they slid too far into the chamber. So far anything brass has fired fine since it was returned. Will they fire on the second strike? No |
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Post by medic22 on Mar 22, 2016 20:18:51 GMT -5
This is going back to rossi, hopefully in exchange for a refund. Tried 4 more different types of ammo with the same results. Unacceptable for any gun of mine, especially a deer gun.
Rifled cantilever barrel on the way for the 870.
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Post by omegahunter on Mar 24, 2016 16:34:32 GMT -5
Sure you don't want to wait to see if the Blackout is clarified as acceptable as the .300 in the new law?
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Post by medic22 on Mar 24, 2016 18:02:41 GMT -5
Sure you don't want to wait to see if the Blackout is clarified as acceptable as the .300 in the new law? Its irrelevant since the law also stated a minimum barrel length of 16 inches. Despite having an NFA stamp, my 8 inch barrel is still no good. |
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Post by stevein on Mar 24, 2016 18:03:58 GMT -5
I have owned a lot of shotguns in my day but I do not remember having a misfire with factory ammo. Deer season can be cold and this will slow down the hammer strike due to lube being thicker. I don't think I would have confidence in that gun. If it is not 100% with ALL ammo when you get it back I would get a refund.
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