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Post by nfalls116 on Feb 3, 2016 10:21:38 GMT -5
It's hard when things don't go our way isn't it?
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Post by M4Madness on Feb 3, 2016 11:48:08 GMT -5
When I went through the comments on behalf of this site and counted the yeahs and nays and posted the results, it was pretty much a dead even 50/50 split for and against. Without overwhelming opposition, the DNR should have defaulted to the yeahs then and passed it, in my opinion.
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Post by firstwd on Feb 3, 2016 12:21:01 GMT -5
Every CO that I talked to was against it, mostly citing the same safety reasons that some many studies have showed were myths.
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Post by M4Madness on Feb 3, 2016 13:09:45 GMT -5
My first cousin is an Indiana conservation officer in Switzerland County. I guess I'll have to ask his opinion one day. Lol!
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Post by throbak on Feb 3, 2016 14:50:15 GMT -5
My first cousin is an Indiana conservation officer in Switzerland County. I guess I'll have to ask his opinion one day. Lol! That would be Matt I'll ask him too see him all the time
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Post by throbak on Feb 3, 2016 14:55:30 GMT -5
Requires a season for HPR Not added to weapons that are now legal and their seasons???
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Post by M4Madness on Feb 3, 2016 14:59:21 GMT -5
Requires a season for HPR Not added to weapons that are now legal and their seasons??? It could be added to run concurrently with the firearms season.
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Post by nfalls116 on Feb 3, 2016 14:59:42 GMT -5
Every person I talked to said "I wouldn't ever hunt with a high powered rifle and wouldn't go in the woods during season if they allowed it" then a few seconds late "but. I do have a (insert any caliber name commonly used for hunting deer in other states) that I have I use for coyote/target shooting and if they legalized it I might as well hunt with it"
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Post by M4Madness on Feb 3, 2016 15:00:23 GMT -5
My first cousin is an Indiana conservation officer in Switzerland County. I guess I'll have to ask his opinion one day. Lol! That would be Matt I'll ask him too see him all the time That would him him. Our fathers are brothers.
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Post by esshup on Feb 3, 2016 16:30:36 GMT -5
Every person I talked to said "I wouldn't ever hunt with a high powered rifle and wouldn't go in the woods during season if they allowed it" then a few seconds late "but. I do have a (insert any caliber name commonly used for hunting deer in other states) that I have I use for coyote/target shooting and if they legalized it I might as well hunt with it" That's what I don't understand. If that caliber is already legal to use for coyotes, why not for deer? Oh wait, it already IS legal to use for deer, if it is used in a handgun. So, why should the bullet/cartridge be any more dangerous if it is fired from a persons shoulder .vs fired from a persons hand? I don't buy the "it needs to be used from an elevated stand" line of bs either. How many guys coyote/groundhog hunt from elevated stands? Maybe a push should be made to make using those rifle calibers/cartridges illegal to varmint hunt with?? Maybe that's what it takes to make the general population realize how silly they are.
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Post by GS1 on Feb 3, 2016 16:34:48 GMT -5
Every CO that I talked to was against it, mostly citing the same safety reasons that some many studies have showed were myths. Most CO'S would probably be happy if they just did away with firearms season and the craziness that comes along with it.
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Post by nfalls116 on Feb 3, 2016 16:46:25 GMT -5
Every person I talked to said "I wouldn't ever hunt with a high powered rifle and wouldn't go in the woods during season if they allowed it" then a few seconds late "but. I do have a (insert any caliber name commonly used for hunting deer in other states) that I have I use for coyote/target shooting and if they legalized it I might as well hunt with it" That's what I don't understand. If that caliber is already legal to use for coyotes, why not for deer? Oh wait, it already IS legal to use for deer, if it is used in a handgun. So, why should the bullet/cartridge be any more dangerous if it is fired from a persons shoulder .vs fired from a persons hand? I don't buy the "it needs to be used from an elevated stand" line of bs either. How many guys coyote/groundhog hunt from elevated stands? Maybe a push should be made to make using those rifle calibers/cartridges illegal to varmint hunt with?? Maybe that's what it takes to make the general population realize how silly they are. you can use them for squirrel hunting...you can use lightning fast rounds for squirrel that you shoot at IN THE AIR... But not deer. Where most hunters are shooting at a downward angle
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Post by drs on Feb 4, 2016 5:32:24 GMT -5
That's what I don't understand. If that caliber is already legal to use for coyotes, why not for deer? Oh wait, it already IS legal to use for deer, if it is used in a handgun. So, why should the bullet/cartridge be any more dangerous if it is fired from a persons shoulder .vs fired from a persons hand? I don't buy the "it needs to be used from an elevated stand" line of bs either. How many guys coyote/groundhog hunt from elevated stands? Maybe a push should be made to make using those rifle calibers/cartridges illegal to varmint hunt with?? Maybe that's what it takes to make the general population realize how silly they are. you can use them for squirrel hunting...you can use lightning fast rounds for squirrel that you shoot at IN THE AIR... But not deer. Where most hunters are shooting at a downward angle Down here in Kentucky, while ALL centerfire cartridges are legal for Deer; one can legally [ONLY] use rimfire or shotgun ammunition. When I lived in Indiana, I used light loaded .22 Hornet ammunition and my .25-20 to bag Fox Squirrels. I used these two, more than I used my .22 LR rifles, or my shotguns. Never have found out why the State of Kentucky has this restriction for hunting Squirrels, so I use my CZ-452 for Squirrel Hunting. I think every state has some strange laws regarding cartridge/firearm use in hunting.
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Post by dbd870 on Feb 4, 2016 7:39:47 GMT -5
Every person I talked to said "I wouldn't ever hunt with a high powered rifle and wouldn't go in the woods during season if they allowed it" then a few seconds late "but. I do have a (insert any caliber name commonly used for hunting deer in other states) that I have I use for coyote/target shooting and if they legalized it I might as well hunt with it" I too suspect there would be more than a few against it that would be out there with HPR's were they legal.
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Post by iceman10 on Feb 4, 2016 8:34:38 GMT -5
Every person I talked to said "I wouldn't ever hunt with a high powered rifle and wouldn't go in the woods during season if they allowed it" then a few seconds late "but. I do have a (insert any caliber name commonly used for hunting deer in other states) that I have I use for coyote/target shooting and if they legalized it I might as well hunt with it" I too suspect there would be more than a few against it that would be out there with HPR's were they legal. I bet some even own a Crossbow now !
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Post by hornzilla on Feb 4, 2016 9:26:01 GMT -5
So when would be the earliest we would see a set season? This coming year?
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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 4, 2016 9:49:41 GMT -5
So when would be the earliest we would see a set season? This coming year? Not sure and IF it passes when the time frame where the DNR director must authorize the season. It could be this coming season...
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Post by drs on Feb 4, 2016 10:43:40 GMT -5
Every person I talked to said "I wouldn't ever hunt with a high powered rifle and wouldn't go in the woods during season if they allowed it" then a few seconds late "but. I do have a (insert any caliber name commonly used for hunting deer in other states) that I have I use for coyote/target shooting and if they legalized it I might as well hunt with it" I too suspect there would be more than a few against it that would be out there with HPR's were they legal. Most likely they would. However, the "Fly-In-The-Ointment" would be those non-hunting folks, who would be against H.P.R. use in Indiana, who enjoy walking or Horseback riding, through Indiana's rural countryside, during your Deer firearm season is open. These are the folks that could put the "Kibosh" on Allowing H.P.R. in Indiana. These are the ones that need to educate.
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Post by drs on Feb 4, 2016 10:47:04 GMT -5
Every person I talked to said "I wouldn't ever hunt with a high powered rifle and wouldn't go in the woods during season if they allowed it" then a few seconds late "but. I do have a (insert any caliber name commonly used for hunting deer in other states) that I have I use for coyote/target shooting and if they legalized it I might as well hunt with it" That's what I don't understand. If that caliber is already legal to use for coyotes, why not for deer? Oh wait, it already IS legal to use for deer, if it is used in a handgun. So, why should the bullet/cartridge be any more dangerous if it is fired from a persons shoulder .vs fired from a persons hand? I don't buy the "it needs to be used from an elevated stand" line of bs either. How many guys coyote/groundhog hunt from elevated stands? Maybe a push should be made to make using those rifle calibers/cartridges illegal to varmint hunt with?? Maybe that's what it takes to make the general population realize how silly they are. Be very careful now, you might be giving those folks, that are non-hunters some ammunition to use against H.P.R .
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Post by throbak on Feb 4, 2016 11:02:10 GMT -5
When the NRC and DNR had the mtgs last fall about this Those against held a slight edge at the Spring Mill Mtg I was there
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