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Post by esshup on Nov 25, 2015 9:20:17 GMT -5
4 guys, 3 days of hunting.
Total deer seen in the woods - 2
Total deer taken - 1 (spike buck)
The locals around the Indian Reservation are really up in arms about the Indians allowed to spotlight deer.
It seems that the Indians aren't limiting their spotlighting to public property.......
The wolves in the area don't seem to be helping matters either. Saw one wolf track about 1/4 mile from the house. Put corn & apples out by the house, have pictures of 6 does/fawns, no raccoons, no fox, a few squirrels, crows and blue jays. Locals are saying that since the wolves moved in they are not seeing any raccoons either.
My cousin talked to a local DNR guy. He said that if it was up to the guys in the field, in the Northern part of the state there would be no deer season at all this year - the population is very low. It's buck only this year. We saw 3 dead deer on the road to and from, not the numbers that we usually see either.
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Post by HuntMeister on Nov 25, 2015 10:03:03 GMT -5
And some here in the Hoosier state think we have deer problems...
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Post by mkfrench on Nov 25, 2015 10:05:30 GMT -5
Interesting...and weird. Here comes my sarcasm. How did Indiana DNR manage to "decimate" Wisconsin's deer herd? Obviously, according to some Indiana Herd "management" Facebook page, IDNR hates deer to point of wanting them all dead and driving off MILLIONS of dollars in revenue for the state from hunting. Of course herd "management" group(with No biologist on "staff") also thinks that the IDNR is responsible for EHD. BUT let's end that rant knowing that the INDIANA DNR is responsible for deer population declines across the Midwest, and that it's NOT due to the "strive to the mythical 1 to 1 buck/doe ratio"that the entire country was managing deer for since 1990-ish...among other potential factors.
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Post by deadeer on Nov 25, 2015 11:04:23 GMT -5
Sorry to hear of that poor showing Esshup. Nice to be in different surroundings and the potential to see a big one up there, but...makes for a long hunt. At least you got back in time to see we still have a little snow left for now.
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Post by esshup on Nov 26, 2015 10:18:17 GMT -5
Interesting...and weird. Here comes my sarcasm. How did Indiana DNR manage to "decimate" Wisconsin's deer herd? Obviously, according to some Indiana Herd "management" Facebook page, IDNR hates deer to point of wanting them all dead and driving off MILLIONS of dollars in revenue for the state from hunting. Of course herd "management" group(with No biologist on "staff") also thinks that the IDNR is responsible for EHD. BUT let's end that rant knowing that the INDIANA DNR is responsible for deer population declines across the Midwest, and that it's NOT due to the "strive to the mythical 1 to 1 buck/doe ratio"that the entire country was managing deer for since 1990-ish...among other potential factors. My cousin lives in Wi, and talked to the Wi DNR. I have no idea where you got the Indiana IDNR reference. |
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Post by esshup on Nov 26, 2015 10:23:33 GMT -5
Sorry to hear of that poor showing Esshup. Nice to be in different surroundings and the potential to see a big one up there, but...makes for a long hunt. At least you got back in time to see we still have a little snow left for now. Snow is all gone here. We had about 1/2" on the ground up there, and for once it wasn't blowing a gale all the time. It's an annual trip, seeing family members and hunting some private ground that is open to public hunting. Big woods, no agriculture, no mast trees on the property to speak of (all 1,700 acres of it), the predominant tree species is Maple. The land is shaped like an "L", and we enter at the lower right part of it. No motor vehicles, so we don't cover more than about 200 acres. It's difficult to get deer out of there to say the least, even with a sled or deer cart. Some recoveries take 6+ hrs. Rifles are allowed, but a long shot is 200 yds. So, deer eat browse or nothing. Deer population is light to begin with, and I went with the expectation that if I saw a deer in the woods the hunt was better than expected. |
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Post by mkfrench on Nov 27, 2015 9:24:40 GMT -5
Interesting...and weird. Here comes my sarcasm. How did Indiana DNR manage to "decimate" Wisconsin's deer herd? Obviously, according to some Indiana Herd "management" Facebook page, IDNR hates deer to point of wanting them all dead and driving off MILLIONS of dollars in revenue for the state from hunting. Of course herd "management" group(with No biologist on "staff") also thinks that the IDNR is responsible for EHD. BUT let's end that rant knowing that the INDIANA DNR is responsible for deer population declines across the Midwest, and that it's NOT due to the "strive to the mythical 1 to 1 buck/doe ratio"that the entire country was managing deer for since 1990-ish...among other potential factors. My cousin lives in Wi, and talked to the Wi DNR. I have no idea where you got the Indiana IDNR reference. Sorry to hijack you're thread. I meant no disrespect. I mentioned IDNR sarcastically. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2015 10:44:20 GMT -5
The person that runs that Facebook page is a paranoid, delusional individual. He needs to be under close medical supervision.
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Post by mission5 on Nov 27, 2015 17:41:07 GMT -5
"Private ground that is open to public hunting'" is probably the issue. I can't seem to do any good with the private that I hunt that connects to public ground unless I'm hunting early archery. The deer just seem to get the hell out of dodge on those public and close private properties during firearms. I even gave up hunting a piece of nice land this year because it was right next to Hoosier National, aka no deer land.
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Post by esshup on Nov 27, 2015 19:12:50 GMT -5
"Private ground that is open to public hunting'" is probably the issue. I can't seem to do any good with the private that I hunt that connects to public ground unless I'm hunting early archery. The deer just seem to get the hell out of dodge on those public and close private properties during firearms. I even gave up hunting a piece of nice land this year because it was right next to Hoosier National, aka no deer land. It could be. I have no idea what the hunting pressure is like during archery season, which is earlier than the gun season there. The 200+ acres that we normally hunt has 0 to 1 other person hunting it during the gun season, besides us 4. The rest of the property has very little hunting pressure during gun season too, because the way it's laid out. There are virtually no public access areas, we park at the only one and that is just where the logging road exits the property. We have to park off to the side to allow the landowner access thru the gate if they want to enter. We don't see cars/trucks parked on the side of the road on the 2 sides that have a road, and the rest of the property is bordered by other private property. Typically one day during our hunt I will walk slowly through the woods on the old logging trails covering as much of the property as I can without being noisy. Usually there is a light covering of snow on the ground, and any tracks are easily seen. I may come across 1 or 2 other hunters tracks, and a few sets of deer tracks, but nothing like down here. This year I saw one other hunter and maybe 5 sets of deer tracks in a whole day of walking. We will typically hear 100+ gunshots on opening day, 50+ on day 2, and <50 on day 3. This year we heard only 5-6 each day, and they were coming from areas that had houses that backed up to the woods. Last year we had knee deep snow from Day 1, and the UP had 3-4 feet of snow. Both hunters and deer had a very hard time moving around. It's a complete different hunting experience than it is down here, around agricultural land. In the past few years wolves have moved into the area, bears are there, but usually in hibernation, we see fisher tracks, few crows but lots of ravens, bald eagles and now there are more and more reports of moose moving into the area. I had a chickadee land on my rifle barrel, and hop up to the scope and peek in the objective lens. Pileated Woodpeckers are common too. |
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