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Post by span870 on Oct 1, 2015 21:42:52 GMT -5
So what is the solution? We know more gun control laws only effect law abiding citizens. Actually we know laws period only effect law abiding citizens.
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 1, 2015 22:16:45 GMT -5
So what is the solution? We know more gun control laws only effect law abiding citizens. Actually we know laws period only effect law abiding citizens. An armed society is a polite society... Supposedly the "security" at this college was unarmed. How can he be "security" if he is not armed? Worse than Barney Fife... Now, I see where this shooter was a Muslim and was targeting Christians... What will Obama say about that? When Muslims do the killing it was because of "mental problems". In the case of the white guy killing the blacks in that church it was because of "hate and evil". We have a double standard president.. .
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Post by nfalls116 on Oct 1, 2015 22:24:30 GMT -5
Gun education, structured families, role models that aren't just over paid street thugs (I.e. professional athletes) Recreational drugs need to be better controled. It needs to be taught that you aren't a victim of your circumstances as a whole and that only you can bring yourself into a positive environment. People need to address mental issues not like it is leprosy and that people with it aren't contagious or weird but like they are issues that can be resolved as a family/group/country. People need to teach their kids manors. People need to teach their kids that violence is not always the answer. People need to stop with the bigotry, racism, greed, and the hate in general. We are a nation built on the back bones of all races colors and creeds and all of us should remember this. Also there needs to be winners and losers everyone doesn't need to get a trophy for participating. We need to have family dinner time. And last but most definetley not least... We need to teach kids there are consequences for poor decisions
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Post by drs on Oct 2, 2015 4:32:03 GMT -5
I don't know if anyone else here have noticed that since Obama, has been in office; we'd have had MORE mass shootings then any other past administrations, in this country.
It seems like now a lot of these mass shootings are now happening in rural areas where most of the people are pro-gun and pro Second Amendment. I am beginning to think there is an "agenda" afoot to "brainwash" these folks turning them somewhat against the Second Amendment and gun ownership in general. Obama, and his followers, who support MORE gun control, are only trying to push for more USELESS Gun Laws, but they are all supporters for abortions, legalizing Marijuana. Thus their idea of gun control, is actually more PEOPLE CONTROL. B-T-Y the Community College in Roseburgh, Oregon, was a GUN FREE ZONE.
"......Roseburg is in Douglas County, a politically conservative region west of the Cascade Range where people like to hunt and fish and pursue other outdoor activities......"
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Post by sakorifle on Oct 2, 2015 5:07:47 GMT -5
greetings Firstly i give my condolences to all those concerned in this horrible act. BUT No one can legislate against a mental idiot, cant be done. Unfortunately some, not all but some Muslims want to take the democratic world back six hundred years, and to try to do it they are going to use violence. Now im not going to get into there religious beliefs or anything like that, it is entirely up to them, but please will they go away behave themselves and let us live in peace. The laws over here are even more balmy one has no defense at all, unless you are lucky enough to be near the baked bean stand in the supermarket then one could throw four packs of beans at the bad guys. Been a number of incidents over here the past few years and it always ends up were there is tighter gun control, never helps but it looks good for the politicians.
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Post by firstwd on Oct 2, 2015 5:22:15 GMT -5
"Gun" violence does not exist. Violence exists and the tool used to execute that violence gets the blame. If guns didn't exist the violence still would.
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Post by trapperdave on Oct 2, 2015 5:42:42 GMT -5
THANK YOU! firstwd. FINALLY someone gets it.
timothy mcvey didnt need a gun, the sob's that dropped the towers and killed thousands didnt use a gun.
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Post by HighCotton on Oct 2, 2015 5:55:29 GMT -5
THANK YOU! firstwd. FINALLY someone gets it. timothy mcvey didnt need a gun, the sob's that dropped the towers and killed thousands didnt use a gun. From what I remember in Sunday School...Cain wasn't packin' either!
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Post by nfalls116 on Oct 2, 2015 6:00:46 GMT -5
THANK YOU! firstwd. FINALLY someone gets it. timothy mcvey didnt need a gun, the sob's that dropped the towers and killed thousands didnt use a gun. From what I remember in Sunday School...Cain wasn't packin' either! you are right, but if Abel had been...
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Post by drs on Oct 2, 2015 6:11:19 GMT -5
THANK YOU! firstwd. FINALLY someone gets it. timothy mcvey didnt need a gun, the sob's that dropped the towers and killed thousands didnt use a gun. Very true, however we didn't have POTUS come out and blame passenger planes crashing into buildings, bombs, or the person(s) who commit the crime(s). However if a "Firearm" is used it get blamed first.
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Post by dbd870 on Oct 2, 2015 6:24:18 GMT -5
Get rid the these stupid gun free zones for a start
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Post by span870 on Oct 2, 2015 6:58:16 GMT -5
"Gun" violence does not exist. Violence exists and the tool used to execute that violence gets the blame. If guns didn't exist the violence still would. I agree 100% with you. I suppose I should have worded it better. I don't blame the tool and never have.
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Post by drs on Oct 2, 2015 7:29:41 GMT -5
Question: Could this latest school shooting just be a diversion from what is going on in Syria & Mideast with the Russians?? This shooting is taking away all the News, from what is happen, and all the "blunders" made by our government in the Mideast. Seems like when something goes wrong with this area or anything else politically, that hurts the Democrats, these shooting pop-up.
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Post by swilk on Oct 2, 2015 7:33:45 GMT -5
There are 315 million people in this country .... a certain percentage of them are crazy and capable of doing something horrific.
The percentage of crazy people is likely the same now as it was 100 years ago.
There is absolutely nothing we can do to predict and stop every case of a crazy person deciding to do something crazy.
More gun control wont do it.
Less gun free zones wont do it.
More citizens carrying wont do it.
Statistically a person is still more likely to die as a result of an accidental fall or an auto accident than by being shot by another person.
It still amazes me how, as a country, we dwell on the tragic deaths of 9 people because of the tool used but nothing is said of the 90 people who died in auto accidents. Nothing is said of the 40 people who were poisoned. The 37 people who died from a fall.
Oregon has universal background checks. The school was a gun free zone. It didnt matter ... the crazy guy still did something crazy.
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Post by swilk on Oct 2, 2015 7:34:02 GMT -5
Question: Could this latest school shooting just be a diversion from what is going on in Syria & Mideast with the Russians?? This shooting is taking away all the News, from what is happen, and all the "blunders" made by our government in the Mideast. Seems like when something goes wrong with this area or anything else politically, that hurts the Democrats, these shooting pop-up. No.
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Post by nfalls116 on Oct 2, 2015 7:42:29 GMT -5
There are 315 million people in this country .... a certain percentage of them are crazy and capable of doing something horrific. The percentage of crazy people is likely the same now as it was 100 years ago. There is absolutely nothing we can do to predict and stop every case of a crazy person deciding to do something crazy. More gun control wont do it. Less gun free zones wont do it. More citizens carrying wont do it. Statistically a person is still more likely to die as a result of an accidental fall or an auto accident than by being shot by another person. It still amazes me how, as a country, we dwell on the tragic deaths of 9 people because of the tool used but nothing is said of the 90 people who died in auto accidents. Nothing is said of the 40 people who were poisoned. The 37 people who died from a fall. Oregon has universal background checks. The school was a gun free zone. It didnt matter ... the crazy guy still did something crazy. Even better... You are more likely to be killed by your doctor than by a gun.
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Post by drs on Oct 2, 2015 7:43:36 GMT -5
Question: Could this latest school shooting just be a diversion from what is going on in Syria & Mideast with the Russians?? This shooting is taking away all the News, from what is happen, and all the "blunders" made by our government in the Mideast. Seems like when something goes wrong with this area or anything else politically, that hurts the Democrats, these shooting pop-up. No. I say there is a [POSSIBILITY] of this. Seems like anything that happens that could make government look bad, these shooting happen.
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Post by swilk on Oct 2, 2015 7:46:16 GMT -5
If that crazy theory were true it would not have been a gunman targeting Christians .... because then it feeds into the other crazy theories that somehow our President is a Muslim and not a Christian.
Its not a conspiracy.... its a crazy person that did something crazy.
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Post by drs on Oct 2, 2015 7:49:07 GMT -5
If that crazy theory were true it would not have been a gunman targeting Christians .... because then it feeds into the other crazy theories that somehow our President is a Muslim and not a Christian. Its not a conspiracy.... its a crazy person that did something crazy. Okay then.
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Post by trapperdave on Oct 2, 2015 8:22:12 GMT -5
Yes,but......the media and Whitehouse jump all over the opportunity to divert attention away from the scene in the middle east. Did they cause the shooting? No. Are they gonna USE it to their advantage? Yup
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