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Post by featherduster on Aug 3, 2015 5:45:37 GMT -5
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Post by nfalls116 on Aug 3, 2015 15:01:41 GMT -5
They sure are reaching.....
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 3, 2015 15:39:52 GMT -5
They sure are reaching..... ALL hunting, especially "trophy hunting" is under attack. The anti-hunters smell blood in the water...
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Post by duff on Aug 3, 2015 17:52:53 GMT -5
NOTE: This author can not verify the authenticity of these reports as they are reports that are available through the internet and as we all know the internet can be wrong. You and I have very similar thought process. I was thinking of a disclaimer for you on your last story. Cracks me up. I must have drank enough swamp muck up there in North Eastern Laporte County to infect me with the same mental impairment. Or bit by same mosquito
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Post by chubwub on Aug 3, 2015 18:10:37 GMT -5
So is the plan to make lion hunting illegal and then backtrack and round up everyone that hunted lions before that date and prosecute them? Guess we better start digging up Teddy Roosevelt and remove his face from Mount Rushmore. Lion killers like that shouldn't be honored. Scum of the earth I tell you! #lionlivesmatter
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Post by maddog on Aug 3, 2015 18:48:53 GMT -5
As I said before, I've been to that country. I hunted there in 2011, with my son. The people there are wonderful, as is the country. The problem is their govt. [like ours]. They are rife withe b'crats on the take. They've already stated that the second lion wasn't shot. It still isn't proven that ole Cecil was poached. It is the liberal media, and the anti-hunters that are on a feeding frenzy. We need to stand solid, together, as hunters, or within 2-3 generations, there will be no hunting.
For those of you who have never been there, hunter dollars, are the only thing that keeps the poachers from completely decimating every animal over there. When I was there in 2011, I had three different black africans, including an official at the airport, thank us for being there, and hoped we could come back. Hunter dollars are the only thing keeping them alive. Mugabe and his thugs, make Obama and the liberals look pristine, and that sure as h**l ain't saying much.........
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Post by chubwub on Aug 4, 2015 12:02:18 GMT -5
As I said before, I've been to that country. I hunted there in 2011, with my son. The people there are wonderful, as is the country. The problem is their govt. [like ours]. They are rife withe b'crats on the take. They've already stated that the second lion wasn't shot. It still isn't proven that ole Cecil was poached. It is the liberal media, and the anti-hunters that are on a feeding frenzy. We need to stand solid, together, as hunters, or within 2-3 generations, there will be no hunting. For those of you who have never been there, hunter dollars, are the only thing that keeps the poachers from completely decimating every animal over there. When I was there in 2011, I had three different black africans, including an official at the airport, thank us for being there, and hoped we could come back. Hunter dollars are the only thing keeping them alive. Mugabe and his thugs, make Obama and the liberals look pristine, and that sure as h**l ain't saying much......... Would love to hear more on your opinion on the subject of hunting species that are threatened/endangered. I'm questioning purely out of interest, no judgments. Just curious to see what you saw when you were over there, did you think the trophy hunting was well regulated and helping the threatened species or just out of control? Do they have biologists managing things like we do over there or is it left up to the discretion of others? Dis they have any eco-tourism over there, and if so how much impact did it have? What changes would you make to the way they manage things over there?
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Post by maddog on Aug 4, 2015 17:07:12 GMT -5
chubwub, The problem over there is a corrupt govt. Mugabe and his thugs control everything. The country is basically 96% black african and 4% white. The safari operators[reputable ones] do a fantastic job overseeing their hunting areas. I'm not clearing the dentist and Cecil, just yet, but everybody has jumped on the bandwagon to crucify this man, in the court of public opinion. From what I saw in the country in 2011, they were doing wonderful, with the wildlife. The reason for limited quotas on lions, is because, if it wasn't for hunter dollars, the poachers would completely decimate the wildlife. Rhino horns to China for aphrodisiacs, ivory to various countries, for profit, just a couple of many problems. The African continent is the size of North and South America, combined. It's huge. There are probably somewhere in the neighborhood of maybe 1000 lion permits, for the whole area. These are for old males, this probably brings in 350-500 million dollars to help wild life. Cut off this money, to be politically correct, and the poachers will desimate the species!! I'm sick and tired of the media/bunny hugger/liberals shooting hunting down, when they don't know squat about what they are talking about.
Mugabe with gather this money from the libs/PETA types, then when things calm down, it will be business as usual back in the safari industry. Except, we have a problem. Now, the airlines are in the game refusing to ship home any big 5 trophys. There goes the infusion of money from hunters to help against poaching, and the whole thing collapses. I could go on, but my fingers are tired of typing.
maddog
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Post by chubwub on Aug 5, 2015 11:20:21 GMT -5
I appreciate your input. You certainly bring up a lot of good points. While trophy hunting may not really be my "thing" I do feel it's a little hypocritical of me to criticize the legal taking of sustainable African game by people who want put heads on the wall while I sit here and determine what the best pose for that full plumage green-wing teal is going to be that I shot on the last day of duck season in January. Yeah, I eat all my ducks but I do enjoy well made taxidermy mounts as well.
I guess my biggest hope is that people of both sides come to an understanding that it will take all our efforts, hunting and non-hunters alike to make a big effort in the plight of endangered species. It is a shame that people can't simply just live and let live and put aside differences to unite on a worthwhile cause.
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Post by drs on Aug 5, 2015 12:59:08 GMT -5
They sure are reaching..... ALL hunting, especially "trophy hunting" is under attack. The anti-hunters smell blood in the water... Those individuals and groups, that are anti-hunting BUT are pro-abortion, are using this Cecil the lion hunt, just an excuse to over shadow, the current issue with Planned Parenthood. This is drawing attention away, from the public, concerning the real issues going on in this country and Government.
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