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Post by jimstc on Jun 27, 2015 19:38:02 GMT -5
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Post by scrub-buster on Jun 27, 2015 21:19:10 GMT -5
Knapped stone Scrub, how does that fly? What does it weigh and what are you using to shoot it? My neighbor has buckets full of these. Hmmm..... They fly the same as my target points. I limit myself to 15 yards and under. I'm using an osage selfbow. This year I am going to try and use a custom fiber glass longbow that someone made for me. I like for my hunting points to be around 175 grains or heavier. If they are to light I add a piece of a 16 penny nail in the shaft behind the point. That point was not an old one. A friend made some for me to hunt with. He's a member on H.I. but doesn't post much.
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Post by duff on Jun 28, 2015 5:18:30 GMT -5
I fall in the ain't broke don't fix it category of hunters. Muzzy or some other knockoff. I simply don't have the confidence in blades that require some type of movement to work properly.
Had lots of guys try to convince me but I can be pretty thick skulled and I have enough bad luck deer hunting. No need to introduce another variable imo.
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Post by jimstc on Jun 28, 2015 6:13:34 GMT -5
I used to live a mile from backyard archery in Hague rd...only went in there once though. A 2 degree is less aggressive than a helical fletch, the ones I'm shooting now are even less aggressive than that. The more twist in the fletching, the slower the arrow. The trade-off is forgiveness. The better your bow and arrows are tuned, the less twist you can get away with Trophy Paradise Habitat Consulting "Trophies are built from the ground up" m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=852914431431752Paul just moved his shop to Herriman Rd off 146th. I was just in there chatting with him. He is an outstanding guy. So you lived on Hague? I am about 7 miles north of the old location.
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Post by dbd870 on Jun 28, 2015 7:15:20 GMT -5
I shoot traditional, but JDUB uses a compound and he is using 2 blade 125gr Magnus Stingers. He's pulling 46# so no go on the mechanicals, but I prefer a fixed head in any case. Dr. Ed Ashby did a huge study on arrows and African game. Definitely worth the time to go through all his findings; while he concentrated on heavier game and used traditional equipment, still plenty to chew on for any bowhunter. For instance fixed 2 blade chisel point heads out penetrated any other type head and there was no real difference in blood trails using 2, 3 or 4 blade heads. OK, deer aren't that hard to blow through - what if you hit bone; that extra edge may be quite useful.
I use a recurve and pull 46# as well. I'm using 487gr arrows with 150gr fixed 2 blade head and have an FOC of 15%. FOC is a whole topic unto it's own and it seems you get some real advantages once you get up around 18-19%.
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Post by jimstc on Jun 28, 2015 8:14:06 GMT -5
Thanks dbd. Just researched FOC. First thing I learned today. I will be calculating the FOC of my arrows after my trip to TSC. Also thanks for the reference to Dr. Ed Ashby. For those who are interested, here is a compilation of his studies: www.tradbow.com/public/department56.cfm
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Post by Genesis 27:3 on Jun 28, 2015 8:27:08 GMT -5
It's Magnus Stinger Buzzcuts for me Jim. I've had success with Muzzy, killed one doe with a Rage from a crossbow. A friend encouraged me to try the Magnus and it performed great on impact and flight so I am sticking with them for now. But all in all, like many have already stated, it's the shot placement that counts.
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Post by jjas on Jun 28, 2015 8:41:26 GMT -5
Over the years I've tried several different heads. Some had things about them I didn't like, most were fine, but in the end, I keep going back to Muzzy.
Strong, flies well, easy to find in stores, and not too expensive.
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Post by jimstc on Jun 28, 2015 9:51:20 GMT -5
My FOC: 14.91
Edit it add: 28.5" 400 gr Easton Power Flight with a 125 field point
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Post by tynimiller on Jun 28, 2015 12:09:25 GMT -5
As long as the bow is properly tuned this is my opinion of broadhead choice: Broadheads
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Post by jimstc on Jun 28, 2015 13:36:01 GMT -5
Good article Ty. Thanks. As has been said in this thread several times, shot placement, shot placement and shot placement....
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Post by jimstc on Jun 28, 2015 13:55:16 GMT -5
Good article Ty. Thanks. As has been said in this thread several times, shot placement, shot placement and shot placement.... That being said, I already get the shot selection, placement, execution variables. My point of this inquiry was more focused on mechanicals vs fixed blades and the experiences and preferences of anyone who chooses to respond.
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Post by Huntnfreak on Jun 28, 2015 17:41:34 GMT -5
I've shot Zwickey Eskimo 4-blade 125 gr. fixed blade broadheads for 20 years now and have no problems harvesting whitetails...it's all about taking the right shot.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Jun 28, 2015 17:45:51 GMT -5
I just bought some NAP Spitfires, since Woody uses them. It's all about the shoes.
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Post by throbak on Jun 28, 2015 18:20:44 GMT -5
Im using my spitfires till there gone. But am replacing them with blood runners by NAP WichI really Like better but again not throwing away spitfires , just buying bloodrunners now
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Jun 28, 2015 18:47:11 GMT -5
Im using my spitfires till there gone. But am replacing them with blood runners by NAP WichI really Like better but again not throwing away spitfires , just buying bloodrunners now I'm really surprised that you don't use a sharp stick.
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Post by trapperdave on Jun 28, 2015 19:23:30 GMT -5
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Post by scrub-buster on Jun 28, 2015 19:26:10 GMT -5
Nice Point Trapper Dave. I think its from the same manufacturer as mine.
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Post by dbd870 on Jun 29, 2015 6:42:30 GMT -5
I just bought some NAP Spitfires, since Woody uses them. It's all about the shoes.
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Post by parkerbow on Jun 29, 2015 9:45:58 GMT -5
I use the Magnus stinger 4 blade 100gr. I like the fixed blade broadhead and one you can resharpen on your own. Plus the Magnus has a lifetime guarantee. As much as broadheads cost anymore I can buy 6 and be set for the rest of my life. Just send the broken or bent one in and they send you a new one. Can't say that about any other broadhead. I also get a complete pass through and if I don't they will still cut when the arrow comes back out.
I tried the rage 2 blade and did not like them for many reasons. 1. They always came open in my quiver because of the cheap O ring around the blades. 2. Once they are shot they are usually trash because of bent blades or they don't resharpen very well, Especially the tip. 3. They do not seem to penetrate very well and rarely ever get a full pass through. Even on TV shows when they shoot Rage, they rarely get a full pass through. I think they catch too much ribs and bone and do not penetrate well and then when the arrow comes back out it does not cut anything because the blades fold back up. 4. If a deer is not perfectly broadside it spells trouble. Yes they make one heck of an entry hole but I like 2 holes and I like to see my arrow to see what kind of blood it has on it to figure out what kind of hit it was. You cant do that if you don't get a pass through and usally when the arrrow is stuck in them they will break them off busting a 10 dollar arrow.
I just do not feel confident using something mechanical that can fail and trust a 1 cent O ring when any deer presents a shot.
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