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Post by greghopper on Jun 23, 2015 21:13:55 GMT -5
There seems to be some media coverage of this now.....The issue attained front-burner status after the recent shooting at a Charleston, SC church that left nine people dead and others injured.
My thoughts are a person has every right to tell people what the flag means to you. But they have absolutely NO right to tell anyone else what it should mean to them.... Your own reality is not the only reality.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Jun 23, 2015 21:37:51 GMT -5
When I heard that the boy sat in the bible meeting for an hour before shooting them, I wondered if it was a church like Obama went to... Rev. Wright I think? ...GD American and whitie this and that. I could see how a disturbed racist would unload on them. No I do not think all racists are disturbed.
However, from the things I've seen so far, it seemed like a normal church, and the boy was disturbed.
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Post by nfalls116 on Jun 23, 2015 21:45:50 GMT -5
It's just like a nazi flag or a British flag or Japanese flag or Isis or al qaeda or Iraq or Vietnamese if any of those had ever won the wars we've had against them we wouldn't have the freedom to fly what ever flag we want.
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Post by dadfsr on Jun 24, 2015 5:33:04 GMT -5
I think I agree with comment I saw on FB this morning-it seems like the same people that are trying to ban the Confederate flag are the same people that think it's OK to burn the American flag?
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Post by firstwd on Jun 24, 2015 5:45:52 GMT -5
The problem I see is the fight is showing the Confederate battle flag, but it keeps getting called the flag of the Confederate States of America.
The other issue with the current issue is that the church was plan B and used because it was a gun free zone that did not have security.
Media and political blow hard are just steering the situation to suit there agenda.
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Post by dbd870 on Jun 24, 2015 6:15:37 GMT -5
Yep; the usual suspects are fanning the flames of racism for their own gain; that is the reason for all this about the flag.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jun 24, 2015 6:41:45 GMT -5
The left saw this killing as an opportunity to further their agenda. After that it was pile on time..
"never let a crisis go to waste"..
The flag in South Carolina flies over the Confederate Soldiers Memorial. What's next? Tear that down?
No where in the Constitution does it say we have a right to not be offended.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jun 24, 2015 6:44:50 GMT -5
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Post by Woody Williams on Jun 24, 2015 7:04:52 GMT -5
And while we were all engrossed in this the Senate passed a sweeping "trade bill" giving Obama a lot of new powers..
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Post by trophyparadise on Jun 24, 2015 7:09:46 GMT -5
Yep; the usual suspects are fanning the flames of racism for their own gain; that is the reason for all this about the flag. Exactly...The only place flames of racism still exist are in the minds of people like Al not so Sharpton. Everywhere else only tiny embers remain if that...every time there is an incident like this Sharpton and his minions at the NAACP show up and fan the embers into flames. Trophy Paradise Habitat Consulting "Trophies are built from the ground up" m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=852914431431752
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Post by swilk on Jun 24, 2015 8:24:06 GMT -5
I think the flames of racism still exist in a lot of places ..... but so does stupidity, selfishness, hate, narcissism and any other undesirable trait you can imagine. Its called humanity.
Some blacks are racist. Some whites are racist. Some are just a-holes.
I actually believe in sticks and stones .... words and symbols will never hurt me.
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Post by drs on Jun 24, 2015 8:37:14 GMT -5
I think this Confederate flag issue is completely STUPID!!! Lot other issues facing this country than a flag.
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Post by kevin1 on Jun 24, 2015 9:40:21 GMT -5
It's gotten to the point that NASCAR is considering banning their display at events, Wal-Mart and Ebay no longer allow sales of them, and it will only get dumber.
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Post by swilk on Jun 24, 2015 9:45:21 GMT -5
In 2000 the South Carolina legislature put into place law that requires 2/3 majority to touch the flag .... be interesting to see if it stays or goes.
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Post by maddog on Jun 24, 2015 9:57:09 GMT -5
GAWD I'm getting so tired of these dumb and dumber pizzin' matches over perceived PC crap. The confederate flag has been around all of our collective lifetimes. Why now a stupid PC match, when there are SO many more important things to deal with in our country?
maddog
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Post by Woody Williams on Jun 24, 2015 10:03:44 GMT -5
Does anyone here think that removing the Battle Flag from the Confederate Soldiers Memorial in SC will:
1) Be all that the leftists want? IOW - They will be satisfied?
2) will stop racism in it's tracks? No more racist hatred or killings?
3) will bring back those that were killed?
IMO - The left loves this stuff so that they can keep on pushing their agendas. A couple congressmen are already starting to push their gun control agenda AGAIN.
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Post by swilk on Jun 24, 2015 10:14:05 GMT -5
And one of those congressmen is a republican so its not just the left.....
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Post by drs on Jun 24, 2015 10:23:57 GMT -5
GAWD I'm getting so tired of these dumb and dumber pizzin' matches over perceived PC crap. The confederate flag has been around all of our collective lifetimes. Why now a stupid PC match, when there are SO many more important things to deal with in our country?maddog CORRECT!!! If this country can't get its act together very soon; then we'll be dealing with flying the Red Chinese flag, as they will be our new "Over Lords". As for passing any new gun control laws, this will never happen in the coming 2016 election, as the power-that-be know that NO gun control laws (new or old) don't work, and they want to be re-elected. It all about "People Control" and they can't take control of an armed society. Our economy woes should be front & center, as this is much more important than any "politically correct" issue, be it a flag or such.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jun 24, 2015 10:38:41 GMT -5
And one of those congressmen is a republican so its not just the left..... Lol.. Party affiliation doesn't designate left and right anymore. Lots of RINOs in the elephant party.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Jun 24, 2015 11:52:28 GMT -5
Does anyone here think that removing the Battle Flag from the Confederate Soldiers Memorial in SC will: 1) Be all that the leftists want? IOW - They will be satisfied? 2) will stop racism in it's tracks? No more racist hatred or killings? 3) will bring back those that were killed? IMO - The left loves this stuff so that they can keep on pushing their agendas. A couple congressmen are already starting to push their gun control agenda AGAIN. I wouldn't be surprised if they secretly start some of it. It's been done before.
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