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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on May 15, 2015 14:58:00 GMT -5
That buddy must really be shaky, near sighted or not using a rest.
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Post by trophyparadise on May 15, 2015 15:04:15 GMT -5
That buddy must really be shaky, near sighted or not using a rest. He usually lays prone using a bipod. He's not a terrible shot Trophy Paradise Habitat Consulting "Trophies are built from the ground up" m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=852914431431752
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on May 15, 2015 15:22:21 GMT -5
That buddy must really be shaky, near sighted or not using a rest. He usually lays prone using a bipod. He's not a terrible shot Trophy Paradise Habitat Consulting "Trophies are built from the ground up" m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=852914431431752You should try out for the Olympics.
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Post by jimstc on May 15, 2015 16:07:31 GMT -5
You should try out for the Olympics. I am laughing so hard I have tears in my eyes. "Try out for the Olympics"!!!!!! Now that is HUMOR! Good job Jon. We will both add humor with our posts. Awesome job. Absolutely hilarious!!!
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Post by drs on May 16, 2015 4:26:38 GMT -5
I don't really care either way. I agree that it's silly to be able to hunt with the same round out of a handgun but not a rifle, it's silly that you can use a rifle to shoot a coyote and not a deer, and that certain wildcats are OK but not a standard rifle caliber. I can deer hunt with my .450 Bushmaster, but not my Model 94 .30/30. Makes no sense. On the other hand, I've never felt that my current Indiana guns were inadequate. I like deer hunting with a shotgun. I've used the same H&R since I was a kid (not exclusively), and would still hunt with it some regardless. I like sitting against the same tree with the same gun in my lap year after year. I have a handful of other guns I rotate in and out now, but I always have that H&R with me on opening day. I see no valid reason that they shouldn't be allowed, but life will go on either way... Good post, lawrencecountyhunter, which I agree with. I to don't understand why it is legal to use wildcats like a .358 Hoosier or a .450 Bushmaster, or a host of other cartridges .357" or above, but not a .30-30 or even a .243. BUT you can use these High Powered cartridges in a handgun. Make no sense at all.
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Post by esshup on May 16, 2015 10:18:27 GMT -5
Good post, lawrencecountyhunter, which I agree with. I to don't understand why it is legal to use wildcats like a .358 Hoosier or a .450 Bushmaster, or a host of other cartridges .357" or above, but not a .30-30 or even a .243. BUT you can use these High Powered cartridges in a handgun. Make no sense at all. Ditto, plus you can use about any center fire cartridge in a rifle for varmints. How many varmint hunt from an elevated stand? I think the issue is a social issue, i.e. a perceived issue, not a real one. (not using CF rifles for safety reasons) I feel that if the harvest rates were to go sky high, then the DNR would adjust the bag limit the following year. While it wouldn't be used for the majority of my deer hunting, I have one area where a rifle would sure come in handy. Now I'm looking at a Specialty Pistol to take the place of a rifle. Will I shoot more deer if I do get the SP? I seriously doubt it. I feel that as long as the State sets the rules, I should be able to play by their rules. If basically any rifle caliber is OK to use in a pistol, then I'll follow those rules.
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Post by bartiks on May 16, 2015 13:05:03 GMT -5
Well I can't resist diving into the fray. I can see both view points the pros and the cons of having it or not. I don't think it is something that has to do with a single person taking the maximum number of tags every year, seriously how much deer meat do you need. My own opinion is that it will invite every "tom, Dick and harry" out of the wood work to go out and use their 30-06 to get them a deer. If you think of having just a handful of guys in each county that never hunted before want to go out and use their hpr, then take that county by county... you see where I'm going with this.
If the state absolutely feels they need to pass this legislation, set aside a week in December where the deer are really skittish that would atleast make it a sport instead of shooting fish in a barrel.
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Post by throbak on May 16, 2015 13:47:27 GMT -5
AVAILABILITY is the limiting factor 300,000 people with a hpr at their disposal is a lot different than the few that use wildcats and handguns and Coyote hunt at any one time
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Post by gilder on May 16, 2015 13:48:46 GMT -5
I want it to pass. I have two rifles: Winchester 70 6.5 x 55 and another Winchester 70, 50 years of Cabelas in .270. Both of them screaming for deer. Even though I love my Ruger .44 mag carbine and still will take it hunting but fill like my rifles deserve the chance to hunt as well.
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Post by dbd870 on May 16, 2015 14:11:25 GMT -5
Everyone's assuming HPR's are going to be so much more dangerous - PA's study has proved that it is not so
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Post by firstwd on May 16, 2015 16:20:13 GMT -5
AVAILABILITY is the limiting factor 300,000 people with a hpr at their disposal is a lot different than the few that use wildcats and handguns and Coyote hunt at any one time And right there is the social - economic discrimination of this entire debate. The complete logic of all this is amazingly stupid. Every single legal deer hunter can currently and legally sit in in a tree stand with a shotgun for deer and a 7mm for those pesky coyote that show themselves at 300 yards, but don't even think about shooting that 180" whitetail that's broadside at 200 yards with that rifle. Seriously?!!? What the hell is wrong with people?
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Post by squirrelhunter on May 16, 2015 18:11:25 GMT -5
AVAILABILITY is the limiting factor 300,000 people with a hpr at their disposal is a lot different than the few that use wildcats and handguns and Coyote hunt at any one time And right there is the social - economic discrimination of this entire debate. The complete logic of all this is amazingly stupid. Every single legal deer hunter can currently and legally sit in in a tree stand with a shotgun for deer and a 7mm for those pesky coyote that show themselves at 300 yards, but don't even think about shooting that 180" whitetail that's broadside at 200 yards with that rifle. Seriously?!!? What the hell is wrong with people? Wouldn't a 7mm rifle be illegal?? From the hunting guide: "HUNTING EQUIPMENT Legal Firearms Shotguns, handguns, rifles with legal cartridges, muzzleloading long guns and muzzleloading handguns are legal during the firearms and special antlerless seasons. Only muzzleloading firearms are legal during the muzzleloader season. Hunters may carry more than one type of legal firearm when hunting during the firearms and special antlerless seasons only. Shotguns must be 10-, 12-, 16- or 20-gauge or .410 bore loaded with slugs or saboted bullets. Rifled slug barrels are permitted. Combination rifle-shotguns are allowed." It doesn't say anything about illegal firearms. Maybe I'm missing something here.
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Post by swilk on May 16, 2015 18:24:20 GMT -5
If you wanted to use it for deer its illegal....if you carried it for use on yotes it would be legal.
One of those funny grey areas.
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Post by Woody Williams on May 16, 2015 18:27:52 GMT -5
If you wanted to use it for deer its illegal....if you carried it for use on yotes it would be legal. One of those funny grey areas. Actually it is legal for any other Indiana game that is in season except waterfowl and deer...
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Post by squirrelhunter on May 16, 2015 18:41:36 GMT -5
I would say carry more than 1 legal firearm means for deer,it is in the deer regs. But since you can carry illegal handguns as long as you don't shoot a deer with it I see your point. I wouldn't chance it though.
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Post by swilk on May 16, 2015 18:43:39 GMT -5
If you wanted to use it for deer its illegal....if you carried it for use on yotes it would be legal. One of those funny grey areas. Actually it is legal for any other Indiana game that is in season except waterfowl and deer... Are you sure? Can you hunt grouse, pheasant,quail or rabbits with a HPR? Ive never looked into it and only mentioned yotes because that is what was mentioned prior.
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Post by Woody Williams on May 16, 2015 18:49:01 GMT -5
Actually it is legal for any other Indiana game that is in season except waterfowl and deer... Are you sure? Can you hunt grouse, pheasant,quail or rabbits with a HPR? Ive never looked into it and only mentioned yotes because that is what was mentioned prior. Pretty sure. Unless the regulation specifies certain firearms or it says that you can't use a certain firearm you can use it..
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Post by swilk on May 16, 2015 18:51:52 GMT -5
Makes sense. I didn't find where any weapons are specified for or against. Lol....let that sink in for a bit; a man can legally shoot at a grouse in flight with a 7mm but not a deer.
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Post by Woody Williams on May 16, 2015 18:57:38 GMT -5
Makes sense. I didn't find where any weapons are specified for or against. Lol....let that sink in for a bit; a man can legally shoot at a grouse in flight with a 7mm but not a deer. Probably not this fall as they suspended grouse season...or will on the 19th.
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Post by swilk on May 16, 2015 18:59:05 GMT -5
Poor guys are gonna be heartbroken.... Guess they'll need to try for quail.
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