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Post by jb1069 on Dec 19, 2014 13:30:36 GMT -5
After reading pages and pages of debates concerning the HPR introduction I just wander when will it all stop. I would not be surprised next year to see "bullet tipped arrows" included for legal archery gear. Or maybe we go backwards a little bit and add "spears". The are so many pros and cons on each new weapon suggested I don't see how the DNR can keep anyone happy. One guy wants to throw rocks and the next guy wants a laser guided missile. Each person has there own "favorite" way to kill a deer but it is never enough to accomplish this on your own, we must fight for something new or fight to influence others to believe as we do to justify our method. It is almost comical to read the strong stance both for and against.
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 19, 2014 13:49:39 GMT -5
Air rifles will probably be next, and no, I don't own one. LOL!
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Post by swilk on Dec 19, 2014 13:51:48 GMT -5
Everyone has their limits as to what's acceptable ...... some admit it and some don't.
Where will it stop? There will be only one more weapon type added after rifles IMO..... air rifles. Be several years though.
The guys who want the opportunity to hunt with spears or Buicks are just SOL.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 19, 2014 13:55:34 GMT -5
Air rifles will probably be next, and no, I don't own one. LOL! YET!! biggrin2
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Post by subzero350 on Dec 19, 2014 13:57:07 GMT -5
The guys who want the opportunity to hunt with spears or Buicks are just SOL. What about the ATLATL?
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 19, 2014 14:06:25 GMT -5
The guys who want the opportunity to hunt with spears or Buicks are just SOL. What about the ATLATL? ...and SLINGS! David killed Goliath with one. Surely a deer would not stand a chance..
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Post by ridgerunner on Dec 19, 2014 15:32:29 GMT -5
I don;t see any problem with whatever weapon someone want's to use or feel capable using...as long as the weapon is sufficient enough to kill efficiently. A deer tag is good for a deer...dead deer is a dead deer..who cares what methods to kill are used as long as it's legal, and capable...? I couldn't care less, use a rock if you can kill a deer consistently and efficiently with one...We all get too wrapped up in all the BS...Just hunt!...shouldn't matter what someone else uses to harvest their buck/deer, you can still hunt like you always have, on land you hunt. Dang Muzzle loaders these days can shoot 250 yards, so don;t wanna hear the rifles are dangerous story, we use high powered rifles for coyote/predator hunting in Indiana.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Dec 19, 2014 16:07:35 GMT -5
I think it's safe to say that the vast majority of big game taken across the entire world is done so with HPRs. Indiana proposes to legalize them to shoot deer with, all of a sudden it's the end of deer hunting as we know it.
Everybody's gonna have to bulletproof their cars and homes. Hunters will have to wear bullet proof vests. Everyone will forget all gun safety once they have a rifle in their hands. The woods are gonna be full of slobs with $2000 semi-autos rifles. Deer are gonna go extinct. The Amish will starve.
Come on, guys..
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Post by hornzilla on Dec 19, 2014 16:45:37 GMT -5
I don;t see any problem with whatever weapon someone want's to use or feel capable using...as long as the weapon is sufficient enough to kill efficiently. A deer tag is good for a deer...dead deer is a dead deer..who cares what methods to kill are used as long as it's legal, and capable...? I couldn't care less, use a rock if you can kill a deer consistently and efficiently with one...We all get too wrapped up in all the BS...Just hunt!...shouldn't matter what someone else uses to harvest their buck/deer, you can still hunt like you always have, on land you hunt. Dang Muzzle loaders these days can shoot 250 yards, so don;t wanna hear the rifles are dangerous story, we use high powered rifles for coyote/predator hunting in Indiana. This might be the post of the year.
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Post by parson on Dec 19, 2014 17:46:59 GMT -5
Got one with a Dodge truck a few years back. If we can get 'em legalized I might try to franchise a chain of "deer clunker" lots.
Probably be considerably cheaper than a new weatherby.
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Post by lugnutz on Dec 19, 2014 18:20:10 GMT -5
We had HPR 30yrs ago, and the thought of using them in Indiana was considered taboo.
Another point of view, I find it odd that the state can push their ethics onto hunters by not being allowed to hunt over bait. But, hunting using a .50 cal bmg from 1/4 mile away is perfectly ethical?
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Post by piercings4u on Dec 20, 2014 1:07:10 GMT -5
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Post by sparky on Dec 20, 2014 2:59:10 GMT -5
I don't post too often but I have given my input to the state on my stance regarding HPR's. Let me toss this out for everyone. My property joins a piece of state property in Posey county. 2 years running I have watched hunters shoot deer that were either too far, running or not even on the state ground. I've seen it with both shotguns and muzzleloaders. These guys watched the deer run off, die and either never went to retrieve them or walked to them, looked them over and walked away. Even when confronted they simply walk away and begin blasting away again at the next deer that comes by. Its not the weapon we choose to hunt with its back to being ethical. There will always be opinions but what matters is respecting what we hunt and respecting those around us while we are hunting.
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Post by drs on Dec 20, 2014 5:23:07 GMT -5
When "They" make reference about Muzzle Loading Rifles being able to take Deer something like 250 yards or more; I think they are considering that a M/L can be fired only one time and then must be reloaded. Where as a "regular" cartridge firing HPR, a hunter can get off several quick shots, especially when using a semi-auto rifle. This fact might play a factor in their decision to allow HPR for Deer in Indiana. Just my theory.
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Post by ridgerunner on Dec 20, 2014 5:27:31 GMT -5
When "They" make reference about Muzzle Loading Rifles being able to take Deer something like 250 yards or more; I think they are considering that a M/L can be fired only one time and then must be reloaded. Where as a "regular" cartridge firing HPR, a hunter can get off several quick shots, especially when using a semi-auto rifle. This fact might play a factor in their decision to allow HPR for Deer in Indiana. Just my theory. What about guys predator hunting with HPR's...? I mean we're already allowed to hunt one animal with HPR's..why a coyote and not a deer?
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Post by drs on Dec 20, 2014 5:30:27 GMT -5
When "They" make reference about Muzzle Loading Rifles being able to take Deer something like 250 yards or more; I think they are considering that a M/L can be fired only one time and then must be reloaded. Where as a "regular" cartridge firing HPR, a hunter can get off several quick shots, especially when using a semi-auto rifle. This fact might play a factor in their decision to allow HPR for Deer in Indiana. Just my theory. What about guys predator hunting with HPR's...? I mean we're already allowed to hunt one animal with HPR's..why a coyote and not a deer? Great Question. I guess your IDNR considers there are MORE Deer Hunters out and about than Coyote or Woodchuck hunters.
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Post by dbd870 on Dec 20, 2014 10:33:54 GMT -5
I draw the line at RPG's - that is just going too far.
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 20, 2014 11:00:26 GMT -5
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Post by swilk on Dec 20, 2014 11:24:54 GMT -5
I draw the line at RPG's - that is just going too far. Can't believe you want to limit others opportunities like that.....what about the children??
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Post by parson on Dec 20, 2014 12:44:41 GMT -5
The nut case in North Korea has used mortars to execute "enemies of the state". Surely they're not overkill for deer.
Oh, and what about drones?
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