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Post by firstwd on Dec 19, 2014 17:23:40 GMT -5
Ok, everybody has to go back to riding horses and using horse drawn buggies because the sheer number and speed of vehicles on the road has had a greater effect on the deer herd than any weapon a hunter uses. Plus vehicles don't have a bag limit so over harvest is a severe issue.
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Post by throbak on Dec 19, 2014 18:20:57 GMT -5
I think I figured out a big reason for the big divide in hunters How many live where they hunt vs hunt then go home? Any thing passed I live with Every day of the season as I do now hunting property's are getting smaller and smaller the ground that is now leased is for 6or7not father and son or a single hunter agreement there was a place sold to hunters on 129 last week 2acres that's for several not one this very well could explain the division hunting from your home vs going away for the weekend then its over every day from Oct1st to now Jan6thILive with and deal with it Makes a difference
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 19, 2014 19:54:15 GMT -5
I live where I hunt. My home is situated pretty much in the center of a bunch of different farms that I can hunt. I can probably walk a 1/2 mile in any direction of my home before coming to the edge of property I can't hunt. I also have permission to hunt three adjoining properties about 10 miles from me (but 5 minutes from work) that I hunt sometimes. I about forgot another property around 6 miles from me in the opposite direction as work.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 20:09:41 GMT -5
My lease is 1 hour from my house and my own land is 90 minutes from my house. I don't get to hunt nearly as often as I'd like, but I often wonder if I'd appreciate it as much if I hunted where I live. I really don't know.
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 19, 2014 20:34:41 GMT -5
I couldn't imagine having to drive more than a minute or two to hunt. If I lived in town where I work (10 miles from here), I doubt that I'd bother driving the 10 miles out here to hunt as much as I do since I live here.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 20:38:17 GMT -5
In October/November each year, I probably average driving 200 miles a week just for hunting.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 19, 2014 20:53:56 GMT -5
I couldn't imagine having to drive more than a minute or two to hunt. If I lived in town where I work (10 miles from here), I doubt that I'd bother driving the 10 miles out here to hunt as much as I do since I live here. I can leave home and be in my stand in one hour exactly.
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Post by swilk on Dec 19, 2014 21:08:53 GMT -5
In October/November each year, I probably average driving 200 miles a week just for hunting. Only a 15 mile drive for me but I still put a ton of miles on the truck during season.....9,000 miles since August 1. The only reason I know that is because I kept putting off getting the oil changed until I looked at that little sticker 2 weeks ago and was at 8800 since the last one. Half those were to and from work and the other half was to the farm and back.
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Post by GS1 on Dec 19, 2014 21:18:21 GMT -5
I think I figured out a big reason for the big divide in hunters How many live where they hunt vs hunt then go home? Within 3 miles I have the property I live on that I hunt, the property I grew up on that I hunt and the main farm that I hunt. I'm around all of them a lot. Probably out and about the farm more than the owner.
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 19, 2014 21:18:49 GMT -5
I couldn't imagine having to drive more than a minute or two to hunt. If I lived in town where I work (10 miles from here), I doubt that I'd bother driving the 10 miles out here to hunt as much as I do since I live here. I can leave home and be in my stand in one hour exactly. And here I can be in a tree in 5 minutes, and I still won't be able to force myself out of bed tomorrow morning. LOL! Oh, right now I can say that I'll get up and go, but when the alarm goes off tomorrow, I'll say, "Screw it!" I just don't have the drive this year for some reason. The latest I've ever killed a buck was the middle weekend of firearms season.
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Post by hornzilla on Dec 19, 2014 21:27:19 GMT -5
It's 1 mile to my property. It's 2 and a half to my other place I hunt. Now when it comes to waterfowl. That's where I log the miles on the old truck scouting.
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Post by firstwd on Dec 19, 2014 21:51:38 GMT -5
It's 1 mile to my property. It's 2 and a half to my other place I hunt. Now when it comes to waterfowl. That's where I log the miles on the old truck scouting. A dirt cheap, high fuel mileage car works wonders for scouting birds.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 21:56:23 GMT -5
^^^^ THIS The only folks that would bother are the ones that take a BUNCH of deer every year. I'd bet that 99% of the deer hunters take WAY less than their county's quota. I honestly don't hunt large enough doe families to consider taking more than 1 or 2 out a year at each property...it's all about keeping them in check but not decimated. Yep. I've never killed more than 2 deer in a year and never will.
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 19, 2014 22:00:38 GMT -5
Last 8 year's I have pretty much only hunted my farm. Closest stand from front door is less than 5 min walk, farthest maybe 10-15 min's with help of 4 wheeler. I get great satisfaction working and managing my place that I have lost interest in other farm's I can hunt.
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Post by drs on Dec 20, 2014 5:27:38 GMT -5
In October/November each year, I probably average driving 200 miles a week just for hunting. I walk to my ladder stands from my home, here in Kentucky. When I lived in Indiana, my Deer Hunting area was some 35 miles away from my home.
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Post by throbak on Dec 20, 2014 6:50:04 GMT -5
the point I was trying to make was those that live where they hunt are less likely to embrace HPR every time I walk from the house and wind in the right direction and hear a shot I gringe I am on the top of a ridge surrounded by other ridges with about every farm out of towners or Amish and they both love dearly to sling lead
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Post by sakorifle on Dec 20, 2014 7:45:42 GMT -5
Greetings Interesting again Seem to be back to the safety aspect of rifles again, tell me as I have no experience of them, but how far will a modern muzzleloader be dangerous to if fired at the same silly angle as a rifle. I guess around the same. Just a guess though. I sense muzzleloaders are very popular as they are legal. There is a well documented fatal accident happened here many many years ago where a man on a picnic with his wife was shot with a 22 rimfire from well over a mile, operator shot onto the skyline missed and it went over the ridge and you chaps shoot up trees. I would be more concerned with a 22 shooting squirrels myself. I will try to locate that incident, it had a name if I can remember it, Regards Billy
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 8:07:41 GMT -5
Greetings Interesting again Seem to be back to the safety aspect of rifles again, tell me as I have no experience of them, but how far will a modern muzzleloader be dangerous to if fired at the same silly angle as a rifle. I guess around the same. Just a guess though. I sense muzzleloaders are very popular as they are legal. There is a well documented fatal accident happened here many many years ago where a man on a picnic with his wife was shot with a 22 rimfire from well over a mile, operator shot onto the skyline missed and it went over the ridge and you chaps shoot up trees. I would be more concerned with a 22 shooting squirrels myself. I will try to locate that incident, it had a name if I can remember it, Regards Billy Billy, Some folks in these parts have a phobia that as weapon technology increases, the skill and IQ of the hunter decreases. You will hear terms like, "Joe Hunter", "Billy Bob", "Slobs", etc., start flying around. That's what it really boils down to. This will all blow over in a few years when, after a few seasons of HPR hunting, the sky remains over our heads.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 20, 2014 8:15:09 GMT -5
Greetings Interesting again Seem to be back to the safety aspect of rifles again, tell me as I have no experience of them, but how far will a modern muzzleloader be dangerous to if fired at the same silly angle as a rifle. I guess around the same. Just a guess though. I sense muzzleloaders are very popular as they are legal. There is a well documented fatal accident happened here many many years ago where a man on a picnic with his wife was shot with a 22 rimfire from well over a mile, operator shot onto the skyline missed and it went over the ridge and you chaps shoot up trees. I would be more concerned with a 22 shooting squirrels myself. I will try to locate that incident, it had a name if I can remember it, Regards Billy Billy, Some folks in these parts have a phobia that as weapon technology increases, the skill and IQ of the hunter decreases. You will hear terms like, "Joe Hunter", "Billy Bob", "Slobs", etc., start flying around. That's what it really boils down to. This will all blow over in a few years when, after a few seasons of HPR hunting, the sky remains over our heads. True.. Being an old timer I've seen it all. Compounds will ruin deer hunting. In lines will ruin hunting. Smokeless muzzleloaders will ruin deer hunting. PCRs will ruin deer hunting. Crossbows will ruin deer hunting. Now it is centerfires will ruin deer huntng. Much Ado About Nothing.... .
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Post by firstwd on Dec 20, 2014 8:21:16 GMT -5
Billy, Some folks in these parts have a phobia that as weapon technology increases, the skill and IQ of the hunter decreases. You will hear terms like, "Joe Hunter", "Billy Bob", "Slobs", etc., start flying around. That's what it really boils down to. This will all blow over in a few years when, after a few seasons of HPR hunting, the sky remains over our heads. True.. Being an old timer I've seen it all. Compounds will ruin deer hunting. In lines will ruin hunting. Smokeless muzzleloaders will ruin deer hunting. PCRs will ruin deer hunting. Crossbows will ruin deer hunting. Now it is centerfires will ruin deer huntng. Much Ado About Nothing.... . ...but nobody is running around screaming like Chicken Little about that new housing addition, strip mall, or outdoor mega store eating up habitat and ruining deer hunting.
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